Pearl_414

Nice chainsaw work Volker , I'm sure it'll look good once it's all finished up. Easy access to the inside is a big +, considering it can be a fight sometime. Have you flown her yet?

Pearl

rogue-RCU

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It's a very good idea to reinforce the mounting area for the nose gear. Mine ripped out after 10 landings. I was using the robart nose gear. When I was landing , I would touch down on the mains first , so there was no hard landing on the nosewheel. 1/8th plywood is to thin for this area.

Pearl_414

Very true Rogue, it's unreal what a joke that stock nose gear is. A 600 dollar plane with some of the cheeziest hardware I ever seen. I give Hangar 9 on a scale of 1-10, a 1 on their terrible hardware, what a sad company.

Corey

rodmad

Hey I have installed a saito 180 in mine. However it seems that I will have to add 1 pound of counter weight to the front of the plane to obtain the balance that the spec calls for of 4" from front of the wing. has anyone experienced a balance issue with this plane. One pound seems to ba alot.

Thanks Rod

Pearl_414

Rod, 99.99.9% of peeps that own this A/C, had to add nose weight to their plane. Many even mounted their radio batteries to the firewall where the engine is, and still had to add nose weight. As long as your plane weighs 20 lbs or less, you should be ok.

In Advance,

Corey

rodmad

Thanks it just seemed to be a lot of weight to me.

rod

Yakflyer

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Almost finished with the repairs. Hope to knock it out over the next day or so.

Volker001

Door Progress.... getting better

Yakflyer

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Very nice. How are you hinging the door? If you are hinging it?

I finally finished my repairs and hope to have her airborn this weekend!

Pearl_414

Very nice work Volker. I like the bullet hole sticker and your Love Bird co-pilot. [sm=49_49.gif]



Good to see you back in the air Yakflyer, congrats. Just keep that airspeed up, better safe then sorry.

Corey

Yakflyer

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You got that right. I hope not to repeat the same mistake twice!

Volker001

I'm not sure yet, how I will hinge the door(s) - eventually with metal hinges or with hinges, like the ones, you use for the aileron, rudder etc.... but I would prefer them to be metal... I'll check at "home depot"

By the way... the bullet-hole stickers... all my stickers are "home-made" - how to do so, you will find out on my page - and about my co-pilot... it is actually the chief-pilot he also was racing my radio-controlled car! See the picture! I also have movies of him, riding the car... And here is the link for the stickers etc...
http://home.comcast.net/~volker-rogl.../Cessna182.htm

Yakflyer

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Volker001,
Nice link for decals! Thanks!
I did have a question. I have a full up laser color printer (very nice highend) and would like to know if I should use a different type of paper?
I will appreciate any help you can offer.
Thanks!

Pearl_414

Thanks for the link Volker. I may make stickers in the future for my PC-9.

Your chief-pilot is cool, I like how he poses for the camera.

Pearl

Yakflyer

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I have a general question for everyone. I have found that something is amiss with deploying my flaps (full travel). I do not have enough elevator to counter the nose up I get.
I can reduce the % of flaps (somewhere between 15-25% deployed) and all behaves fine.
Am I missing something here?
CG checks out perfect. I get full surface control range as the manual states.
I will appreciate any tips from you all.

Pearl_414

I've yet to fly the Cessna but, I heard the angle of attack increases a lot, with full flaps deployed. You may wanna use a 2nd rate on your radio, for more elevator travel during landings. Thats where I would start.

Good luk..

Pearl

Yakflyer

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Pearl,
Good point and that is where I am working now.
I took her up Sunday evening for her first flight after my repairs and she did great! I moved the CG back about 1/2 inch and it really improved her soft landings.

BHskybolt

Hey, does anyone have the Original Nose gear mounting block for the Hangar 9 Cessna 182 1.50? I have broken mine and can not find another one anywhere... Horizon, Hangar 9 nor Robart has it..

Yakflyer

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I did, but it broke with the factor nose gear so I just made another one from some bench stock hardwood I have laying around. The trick was to have the reinforcement block angled by sloping down to the top of the mount. I used a 1/4" peice of hardwood about 1/4" wider than the nose gear mount itself. Then used my belt sander to sand half the thickness down on the top side. After that I just simpley sanded to a smooth grade to the bottom. The trick is to make the nose gear pertrude forward a few degrees and not mount it 90 degrees to the firewall.

I hope that helps.

MX240

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To Yakflyer,
IF you are flying at cruise power and drop full flaps she is about going to do a loop...just like the real C-182. Flaps are too be used at a reduced flying speed.
I drop half flaps on my crosswind to the runway. Power is somewhat less then half.
On turning final IF I think I am a little high yet I cut the power and add full flaps and maybe on landing add a touch of power to smooth things out IF things get too slow.
Any headwind over 25MPH I don't need them.
I can set my JR 10 radio to move the flap servo's slowly down.
Heck...you probly already know all this. LOL
She is my favorite ARF airplane. I have another new one in the box...just in case

Yakflyer

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Thanks MX240,
I have kind of stumbled onto what you have explained yesterday when I was flying her. Your information is great in that it confirms what I was thinking.
I agree, if you have any decent head wind, I do not even bother using the flaps period.
So far I have only used them on take offs but not landings just yet. Its been pretty windy that last few times I have taken her out and do not want to do that until I have a real good understanding how she handles in calm conditions.
I must have flew her 6 or 7 times yesterday. Each time was just as exciting as the first!
I love the way this plane rotates on take off and landings more than flying her.
But flying her is a dream regardless.
I have to say, it is my favorite 120 size plane now!
Thanks!

MX240

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OK Yakflyer (yes I have a 50cc yak also)
I have a confession to make.
I have about 30 or 40 flights on my C-182 and have never taken off with half flaps. Only used them on most landings.
Tell me....will it take off sooner?
Will it pitch-up after lift off and maybe stall?
Will I use less up elevator on take-off?

Before using flaps on landing be up 2 mistakes high and try slow fight with out flaps....with half flaps.....with full flaps THEN
try some mild stalls without flaps......with half flaps.......with full flaps.
The thing to remember is with full flaps...DO NOT TRY TO STRETCH THE GLIDE.....get the nose down.......or add a little power.
She hangs in the air real pretty comming in with full flaps
Thanks
Jim

Yakflyer

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Jim,
I have found using the flaps will help your takeoff roll out decrease a great deal.
Sunday, I was playing with the take offs a little and discovered a new technique for this.
I set my flaps to about 15-20%, powered up while holding full up elevator.

Once I saw the nose lift off the ground (in about one third of the normal distance) I backed off the elevator a tad. When I saw the main gear depart the runway, I backed down again on how much up elevator I was using. I think I had around 20-30% up elevator.

I found this to produce a very short take off distance (on a grass runway) and it looks great!

When it becomes airborn, between 20-30 feet, I pull back the flaps to nuetral position and off she goes!

If you are careful to gradely release the eleavator during the takeoff and using full power, I did not find any adverse conditions or threats to stall. Remember, the trick is to ease off the elevator during her iniitial lift off, but keep some pressure on the elevator to allow her to climb.

At least, this is what I discoverd.

I appreciate your notes on langing with flaps. I will play around with that next time I'm out.
I will remember not to stretch out the glide. LOL I have already had one bad misshap that took me about 3 weeks to repair.

Let me know how it goes on take offs and see if you find a noticable difference. I think it makes it look more like a true scale taking off.

Volker001

Thanks to all for the interesting thougts about using the Flaps - as in the 1:1 plane, you should NOT use full flaps at higher speed (in the real 182 it is mostly because you can damage the flaps and even the wing-structure, if you give full flaps at higher speed than 100 km/h true air-speed) - in the model it is mostly because the plane will nearly jump in the air - giving flaps dramatically reduces airspeed, but also stall-speed - means you can fly much slower, than without flaps.
On the airfield, if it is asphalt you wont need any flaps at all for take off. Landing: You should allways do with at least some flaps given - for reducing the touch-down-speed (good for the plane and the landing-gear - also in emergency-cases - if the speed is slower you wont damage your pnae that much, as if with higher speed)

And, by the way... if you want to hear nice relaxing music, while working on your plane... listen to my webradio!
For the Webradio-Forum: http://www.projectsystem12forum.de.vu/
There you also find the link for listening to the radio! - Hope to see you guys also there and have some fun!

Yakflyer

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Voker001,
Thanks for confirming what I had been thinking about the use of flaps. I appreciate your input. Specially the landings. I was wondering if I didn't understand something when it came to how much flap to use. I had been using probably a 1-1.5 inch drop in the flaps on landing and found her really managable and enjoyable.
I am really glad to have forum such as this to learn from.