Where Have All The Kits Gone ?
05-23-2010, 09:06 PM
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Ricky2000..... As for the Mustang.... Make a new kit off the old/new parts and build the the ...stang with the new parts you've just created. Might take note on the the original parts is to compare the size(s) to the plans. Granted plans can shrink/expand through time, but, if your going to make a kit, might as well make the parts accurate. Yes, it would be LABOR intensive, but the goal would be still having an original kit etc.
I am glad you like the thread, I am the original "poster" of the thread. I scratch and build from kits, and have assembled a ARF or two, but that's my limit though
I am currently finishing up a .15 size Mustang for racing, it is an ARF... but being safety concious and wanting the plane to fly straight and true for the rigors of racing, I "bashed" it to my standards within all the rules listed in our club. I wish now I would have "scratched" one as it would have been exactly what I wanted as for the build and flying characteristic's, I've put in to much "time" in this one in making it "right".
I've heard that the Nosen kits tend to be "weak" in certain areas, first of all, I've seen one or two Nosen Mustangs years ago that flew. That's my expeirence with this particular "kit". If you do decide to "make a kit", a suggestion is to review what the plan reflects for design, the type of wood being used for that particular area and how that area would affect the safety/build/flying on a whole.
Just my two cents worth !
I am glad you like the thread, I am the original "poster" of the thread. I scratch and build from kits, and have assembled a ARF or two, but that's my limit though
I am currently finishing up a .15 size Mustang for racing, it is an ARF... but being safety concious and wanting the plane to fly straight and true for the rigors of racing, I "bashed" it to my standards within all the rules listed in our club. I wish now I would have "scratched" one as it would have been exactly what I wanted as for the build and flying characteristic's, I've put in to much "time" in this one in making it "right".I've heard that the Nosen kits tend to be "weak" in certain areas, first of all, I've seen one or two Nosen Mustangs years ago that flew. That's my expeirence with this particular "kit". If you do decide to "make a kit", a suggestion is to review what the plan reflects for design, the type of wood being used for that particular area and how that area would affect the safety/build/flying on a whole.
Just my two cents worth !
05-24-2010, 11:37 AM
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HELLO I WOULD LOVE TO BUY A COPY OF THE INSTRUCTIONS FOR THE GIANT BUD NOSEN MUSTANG KIT.
WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO SELL ME A COPY? EMAIL ME [email protected] THANKS. PS WHAT DID YOU PAY FOR THE SPINNER?
WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO SELL ME A COPY? EMAIL ME [email protected] THANKS. PS WHAT DID YOU PAY FOR THE SPINNER?
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This is just the thread I've been looking for. Have never built a kit but after reading this thread I think it's time to start. Thank you guys for all the info.. Would love to build an aircraft from a pile of sticks and have it sail through the skies. Now I just have to figure out what to build.......[
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06-01-2010, 02:17 AM
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Not much. Six months and still flying the trainer. The idea of flying an aircraft that I put together with my own hands just really apeals to me. If I don't get it right, it will not fly right. Well .............. Having said that, maybe I should'nt. 
06-01-2010, 01:48 PM
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The only way that anyone ever learned to build was by building. Mistakes are just part of the game. I haven't built a model yet without at least one mistake being made during its construction, but all of them have flown and none of them has fallen apart except for one wing center section. My first low winger was a Trainermaster by AAMCO. I came from control line flying, where we never had to fiberglass a center section. Instead of applying silk covering fabric as I usually did on my control line models, I tried this new fangled stuff called Super Monokote. A plastic film that you ironed on. I had used it once before on my first multi-channel model, a Goldberg Senior Falcon with great success.
There was my new Trainermaster in the air, screaming along side the .60 powered models just like it belonged there. It was the 13th flight. The little OS .40H was merrily spinning the 10x6 prop and wasn't taking any prisoners as it ran past some of the slower .60 powered models. Then, I just had to do a really fast, full power in the downline, split S. The wing broke in the middle and stunned me to the point that I even forgot to throttle back. My brand new model, engine and six channel Orbit R/C system, also brand new, lie in a compact heap at the end of the field. Remember, this happened back before CA glue and 5-minute epoxy were heard of. I was looking at at least six months of full time evening building just to get another one of these things flying again. And that was after I figured out how to pay for all of the new stuff that I needed. I was a teensy bit upset.
So guys, if your engine quits while you are hovering your ARF or RTF and splatters your model, don't mind me if I'm not particularly sympathetic.
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There was my new Trainermaster in the air, screaming along side the .60 powered models just like it belonged there. It was the 13th flight. The little OS .40H was merrily spinning the 10x6 prop and wasn't taking any prisoners as it ran past some of the slower .60 powered models. Then, I just had to do a really fast, full power in the downline, split S. The wing broke in the middle and stunned me to the point that I even forgot to throttle back. My brand new model, engine and six channel Orbit R/C system, also brand new, lie in a compact heap at the end of the field. Remember, this happened back before CA glue and 5-minute epoxy were heard of. I was looking at at least six months of full time evening building just to get another one of these things flying again. And that was after I figured out how to pay for all of the new stuff that I needed. I was a teensy bit upset.
So guys, if your engine quits while you are hovering your ARF or RTF and splatters your model, don't mind me if I'm not particularly sympathetic.
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06-01-2010, 07:07 PM
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NM2K well said. I to have been at it awhile. One of my sayings, "in order to practice your flying, you've got to practice your building".
No, you don't crash ALL the time in order to gain expeirence, but, as always a learning curve, even with "quality" kits, instructions, etc. to GUIDE you, the builder is the final decison maker, and many, many times it comes from expeirence and seeing your results in a SAFE, flyable aircraft.
Yeah, I am familar with Orbit, buddies, of mine, 3 of them flew Orbit. One was featured in an ad, showing him flying with his antenna collasped while the plane was still in full control. And remember the "Digit Midget", Yep, the smell of fresh balsa and ambroid, oops, CA
Yeah could go on and on, just got back out of the shop, readying a fresh .15 Mustang pylon racer. Have a good one.
No, you don't crash ALL the time in order to gain expeirence, but, as always a learning curve, even with "quality" kits, instructions, etc. to GUIDE you, the builder is the final decison maker, and many, many times it comes from expeirence and seeing your results in a SAFE, flyable aircraft.
Yeah, I am familar with Orbit, buddies, of mine, 3 of them flew Orbit. One was featured in an ad, showing him flying with his antenna collasped while the plane was still in full control. And remember the "Digit Midget", Yep, the smell of fresh balsa and ambroid, oops, CA
Yeah could go on and on, just got back out of the shop, readying a fresh .15 Mustang pylon racer. Have a good one.
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kits are still alive! I am attaching 5 pics of a 180 inch wingspan F4U-1 Corsair that is currently being built! This beautiful beast was HANDCUT by Cornell Michael Kitcutting who is at www.kitcutter.com! Believe me folks, it may take him a long long time to cut something like this but those people that have gotten one of his kits, they do overall love his work. I myself got a P-61 Black Widow in 1/5th scale cut by him, and more recently the 1/4 scale Don Smith P-51 Mustang!
06-19-2010, 12:34 AM
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kits are still alive! I am attaching 5 pics of a 180 inch wingspan F4U-1 Corsair that is currently being built! This beautiful beast was HANDCUT by Cornell Michael Kitcutting who is at www.kitcutter.com! Believe me folks, it may take him a long long time to cut something like this but those people that have gotten one of his kits, they do overall love his work. I myself got a P-61 Black Widow in 1/5th scale cut by him, and more recently the 1/4 scale Don Smith P-51 Mustang!
kits are still alive! I am attaching 5 pics of a 180 inch wingspan F4U-1 Corsair that is currently being built! This beautiful beast was HANDCUT by Cornell Michael Kitcutting who is at www.kitcutter.com! Believe me folks, it may take him a long long time to cut something like this but those people that have gotten one of his kits, they do overall love his work. I myself got a P-61 Black Widow in 1/5th scale cut by him, and more recently the 1/4 scale Don Smith P-51 Mustang!
06-25-2010, 09:30 PM
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Anyone have either a New in box great planes giant aeromaster kit or a andrews aeromaster kit? I would trade a premium new in box goldberg bucker kit for either.
07-31-2010, 02:04 PM
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Hi all - First Post!
I have given up looking for a kit for a decent price down here in Australia. I want to build a trainer plane and the only one I have found is a PT40 and it costs twice what a similar ARF will cost??? Then I would have to buy the coverings, glue etc etc. It would probably end up costing me 3 times as much as an ARF. I built a trainer plane about ten years ago from kit and enjoyed it. Flew it a couple of times then other commitments got in the way and I sold everything. Having a look around, Ican't believe the way this industry has headed and changed so much in ten years. Anyway, it's probably a big ask but I have decided to try and build a plane from plans. I have ordered a few different sets including the RCM Junior Trainer, the PT40 and the Instructor. Once I get them, I will have to decide which one is the easiest to build???
I have given up looking for a kit for a decent price down here in Australia. I want to build a trainer plane and the only one I have found is a PT40 and it costs twice what a similar ARF will cost??? Then I would have to buy the coverings, glue etc etc. It would probably end up costing me 3 times as much as an ARF. I built a trainer plane about ten years ago from kit and enjoyed it. Flew it a couple of times then other commitments got in the way and I sold everything. Having a look around, Ican't believe the way this industry has headed and changed so much in ten years. Anyway, it's probably a big ask but I have decided to try and build a plane from plans. I have ordered a few different sets including the RCM Junior Trainer, the PT40 and the Instructor. Once I get them, I will have to decide which one is the easiest to build???
07-31-2010, 02:55 PM
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hello,
i am an 80 year old modeler who builds and flys all kinds of models. i some times design my own. i am currently flying giant planes and 1/2 a texaco.
you cant go wrong with a sig seniorite. trainer. i have trained over 100 to fly on the kadet/ senior line.
i have a few trainers that can be starters or advance trainers doing loops and barrel rolls easy.
these are for sale as i am downsizing my stock of kits. all less than $90.00 plus shipping some at $70.00
i have lots of plans if you would like to build from them. they show all the parts for you to cut out as well ass drawings. these are $25.00 or less plus postage.
contact me at (all caps) [email protected]. if you know some aussies who would like to buy some KRAFT r/c sets i have them in good condition at a fair price. keep on builden and flying. it's fun
i am an 80 year old modeler who builds and flys all kinds of models. i some times design my own. i am currently flying giant planes and 1/2 a texaco.
you cant go wrong with a sig seniorite. trainer. i have trained over 100 to fly on the kadet/ senior line.
i have a few trainers that can be starters or advance trainers doing loops and barrel rolls easy.
these are for sale as i am downsizing my stock of kits. all less than $90.00 plus shipping some at $70.00
i have lots of plans if you would like to build from them. they show all the parts for you to cut out as well ass drawings. these are $25.00 or less plus postage.
contact me at (all caps) [email protected]. if you know some aussies who would like to buy some KRAFT r/c sets i have them in good condition at a fair price. keep on builden and flying. it's fun
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Read your post on where have the kits gone. Check this plane out http://www.rcflightschool.com/SNL.asp It is used as a primary trainer at the school. I hjave a set of plans and its a very nice plane. I think someone was producing a short kit.
Thomas
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07-31-2010, 08:54 PM
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THE kits are almost gone, and I dam# darn the ARF world, and their manufactures. The ARF has robbed the individual of classic Father Son/Daughter time. ARF's have also dumbed down America even more, by giving them the pre cooked TV dinner, as opposed to the traditional challenge American's loved.Americans are now lazier. And finally and even more importantly we've[:@] robbed the American worker of their jobs building these airplane kits, we have now outsourced our American labor to some third world country to build these ARFs usually by women and children in sweat shops, in the name of new world Capitalism, keeping the prices down...Enjoy your ARF....NOT ME!!!! I'm kit building by U.S. manufacturers, or scratch building exclusively America lets keep it in America, lets go back to the kit builders, and send the ARFs back to the island of misfit toys where they belong....[>:][:@][>:][:@][>:][:'(][>:] In the infamous bumper stickers of the Dave Platt camp......."BARF ON ARF".......Good Night and God Bless...
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Hi Frankolin42.
I have been out of the hobby for about 15 years, and I am just getting back in. Ihappen to agree with everything that you said, I was very dissappointed to find that most everything that is available are ARFor RTF. I dont get it. Iam currently building a Four Star 120 and I am waiting on positive cash flow toorder an AMR trainer 26. Ipersonally will not purchase anything that is allready built for me. Iremember when I was very young, picking up copies of RCM and reading them from cover to cover studying plans and dreaming of building my own plane. When I built my first trainer and then flew it, that feeling can never be obtained by throwing together an ARF. Iam thankful to the people in this forum for keeping the concept alive.
Happy Building
I have been out of the hobby for about 15 years, and I am just getting back in. Ihappen to agree with everything that you said, I was very dissappointed to find that most everything that is available are ARFor RTF. I dont get it. Iam currently building a Four Star 120 and I am waiting on positive cash flow toorder an AMR trainer 26. Ipersonally will not purchase anything that is allready built for me. Iremember when I was very young, picking up copies of RCM and reading them from cover to cover studying plans and dreaming of building my own plane. When I built my first trainer and then flew it, that feeling can never be obtained by throwing together an ARF. Iam thankful to the people in this forum for keeping the concept alive.
Happy Building
08-12-2010, 09:41 PM
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I was browsing in the LHS today, and there, tucked behind all the park flyer [:'(] ARFs, was a still-in-the-cellophane-wrap Sig LT-40 kit. This is, IMO, the best overall trainer of the many I've flown. I trained grandson #1 on the ARF, then we killed it dorking around at low altitude on a windy day.
Grandson #2 is showing some intermittent interest, but the H9 P-51 PTS I assembled for him is NOT a primary trainer... their claims to the contrary notwithstanding. A great second plane, sure. But a basic trainer? No way.
With Sig looking to be not long for this world, I said what the heck and bought the kit. I've got a 52 Surpass that will go nicely with it, and I'll build it as a tail dragger. Yeah... a Haigh tail wheel, with a second LG block in place for floats... looks like my previously-planned "winter build project" (a GP Patty Wagstaff Extra) has been superseded.
BTW, I have a complete (to include second set of plans) Sig SkyBolt kit wasting away on a shelf. If anyone is interested, PM me. A larger-than-normal trainer excepted, I just cannot get into little airplanes anymore; I'll never build the 'Bolt. It needs a home/builder. I have a GP Super AeroMaster 1/3 complete that I haven't touched in three years. I'll get around to finishing it, because I already have so much time invested.
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Grandson #2 is showing some intermittent interest, but the H9 P-51 PTS I assembled for him is NOT a primary trainer... their claims to the contrary notwithstanding. A great second plane, sure. But a basic trainer? No way.
With Sig looking to be not long for this world, I said what the heck and bought the kit. I've got a 52 Surpass that will go nicely with it, and I'll build it as a tail dragger. Yeah... a Haigh tail wheel, with a second LG block in place for floats... looks like my previously-planned "winter build project" (a GP Patty Wagstaff Extra) has been superseded.
BTW, I have a complete (to include second set of plans) Sig SkyBolt kit wasting away on a shelf. If anyone is interested, PM me. A larger-than-normal trainer excepted, I just cannot get into little airplanes anymore; I'll never build the 'Bolt. It needs a home/builder. I have a GP Super AeroMaster 1/3 complete that I haven't touched in three years. I'll get around to finishing it, because I already have so much time invested.
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