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10-05-2019, 03:37 PM
I guess we have it better than I thought at our club. Unlimited size and noise levels. All types of aircraft are allowed. The closest residence is almost 1/4 mile away and he is a club member to boot.
10-05-2019, 04:19 PM
We had a, sandy landfill field at the Skymasters club in the 1980s We thought nobody would ever want it.Residences were well out and away.Had a chance to buy it but the club felt there was no way to lose it. Still, many pleasant memories of that old dump. Aside from too many too loud planes.
Turned out the junkyard next door was more than interested and needed the room. They now have it.
I like reasonable noise limits. As do the other members at our club. Those straight piped X-40 Super Tigre midgets are thankfully long gone.May they rust and rot forever.
Hearing is a valuable asset.
As are happy neighbors
Turned out the junkyard next door was more than interested and needed the room. They now have it.
I like reasonable noise limits. As do the other members at our club. Those straight piped X-40 Super Tigre midgets are thankfully long gone.May they rust and rot forever.
Hearing is a valuable asset.
As are happy neighbors
10-06-2019, 01:48 AM
As I am often bitterly reminded by anti YS bigots, when I bring up YS. "This IS a Saito thread". Saito made one two stroke before coming to their senses. Now they only make four strokes.
No prejudice here either. The fact is that most people don't like the sound they make. Making them louder doesn't help.
Nothing against the engines, until some nit wit runs one.
No prejudice here either. The fact is that most people don't like the sound they make. Making them louder doesn't help.
Nothing against the engines, until some nit wit runs one.
10-06-2019, 04:15 AM
I try to be conscientious of what may bother fellow flyers and spectators. My engines are broken in and tuned before I leave for the field. A little tweak on the needle for the first flight is all it takes. What bugs me is when someone tunes and tunes and tunes on the bench for 5 or 10 minutes before every flight. That and debugging engine trouble for 30 minutes on the bench before they finally give up and go home. Doesn't matter whether it's a Saito or a 2 stroke, that's just plain annoying. Once a plane is in the air I enjoy all types of engine noise.
Seems to me that those same annoying needle twirlers are the ones dead sticking all the time. What's worse is that they many times put the rest of us at risk during their panicked attempts to reach the runway.
Saitos: What deadsticks?
Seems to me that those same annoying needle twirlers are the ones dead sticking all the time. What's worse is that they many times put the rest of us at risk during their panicked attempts to reach the runway.
Saitos: What deadsticks?
10-06-2019, 05:24 AM
You can tell a lot about a pilot by how he reacts to a dead stick.
I can’t believe the guys who have been flying for years and go into complete meltdown when there engine quit’s running, there the ones who crash when they so call dead stick.
Then there the ones that don’t meltdown but don’t know how to fly the plane when the engine dies and then they crash.
But then you have the guys who embrace the situation and put the plane on the runway or land it in the field unscathed.
Me I fly tell I run out off fuel or I will kill the engine on purpose just to improve my skill’s. But that I usually do after I know the plane.
Also I agree the tweaker just drives me nuts spend an hour make a bunch of noise and then pack it up and go home.
I can’t believe the guys who have been flying for years and go into complete meltdown when there engine quit’s running, there the ones who crash when they so call dead stick.
Then there the ones that don’t meltdown but don’t know how to fly the plane when the engine dies and then they crash.
But then you have the guys who embrace the situation and put the plane on the runway or land it in the field unscathed.
Me I fly tell I run out off fuel or I will kill the engine on purpose just to improve my skill’s. But that I usually do after I know the plane.
Also I agree the tweaker just drives me nuts spend an hour make a bunch of noise and then pack it up and go home.
10-06-2019, 05:55 AM
I'm like you guys I don't get tweakers at all. Get the engine running close to peak, get a good idle and transition and then leave it alone! Its not broke so don't fix it! As for YS engines they are a good well made engine period I just have a preference for Saitos. I have one Magnum 4 cycle don't think I have ever ran it. I also like 2 cycles I have a bunch of smaller OS, Super Tigre, and Enya engines that I use. I even have a couple of Thunder Tigers (the price was almost nothing) and except for a week point where the needle valve screws into the carb body they are OK.
10-06-2019, 06:44 AM
You can tell a lot about a pilot by how he reacts to a dead stick.
I can’t believe the guys who have been flying for years and go into complete meltdown when there engine quit’s running, there the ones who crash when they so call dead stick.
Then there the ones that don’t meltdown but don’t know how to fly the plane when the engine dies and then they crash.
But then you have the guys who embrace the situation and put the plane on the runway or land it in the field unscathed.
Me I fly tell I run out off fuel or I will kill the engine on purpose just to improve my skill’s. But that I usually do after I know the plane.
Also I agree the tweaker just drives me nuts spend an hour make a bunch of noise and then pack it up and go home.
I can’t believe the guys who have been flying for years and go into complete meltdown when there engine quit’s running, there the ones who crash when they so call dead stick.
Then there the ones that don’t meltdown but don’t know how to fly the plane when the engine dies and then they crash.
But then you have the guys who embrace the situation and put the plane on the runway or land it in the field unscathed.
Me I fly tell I run out off fuel or I will kill the engine on purpose just to improve my skill’s. But that I usually do after I know the plane.
Also I agree the tweaker just drives me nuts spend an hour make a bunch of noise and then pack it up and go home.
10-06-2019, 07:10 AM
An interesting thing happened with my FA82 Friday, it was lean 3 clicks on the HSN. I've never had a new engine go lean after a 1-1/2 gl. of fuel. I vacuum and pressure tested the fuel lines and tank, checked for debris and checked flow rates, everything looks fine. Same fuel, prop and plug. The needle position had not been changed since the previous outing and climate conditions were very similar.
As a new engine continues to break in over time it suffers less frictional losses and the ring seats better so it becomes more efficient, or should. In the past that has always required periodical leaning of the fuel mix. Something is awry.
Maybe the ring rotated around the piston to a less efficient position?
As a new engine continues to break in over time it suffers less frictional losses and the ring seats better so it becomes more efficient, or should. In the past that has always required periodical leaning of the fuel mix. Something is awry.
Maybe the ring rotated around the piston to a less efficient position?
10-06-2019, 07:10 PM
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I don't mind people tuning or working on their engines at the field, I figure most pilots have neighbors. as for dead stick'ing, done that enough with that dang OS 61FX, but NEVER again LOL. the thing is with our field we only have one strip, we don't have a cross wind strip, so that makes it harder to get a plane down safe when it dead sticks
I saw a never started OS 95V for $180 shipped last night on RCG, I wanted to buy it but I just could not bring myself to snag it. I'm betting it's sold..
hey Pete, I had a guy asking me about my Heli parts, he didn't want to pay $235 shipped, there must be over $500 in parts. he said he only needed 3 parts, and he didn't want the rest of the other parts just setting around. I told him that "the parts wont be setting around if he crashes, and all Helis crash"... LOL he has not replied back LOL
I had another guy that asked me about them, but he has not been active on the site since he asked, that was 28 days ago. if I sell them I will buy that 70" Ryan STA Tower has
Jim
I saw a never started OS 95V for $180 shipped last night on RCG, I wanted to buy it but I just could not bring myself to snag it. I'm betting it's sold..
hey Pete, I had a guy asking me about my Heli parts, he didn't want to pay $235 shipped, there must be over $500 in parts. he said he only needed 3 parts, and he didn't want the rest of the other parts just setting around. I told him that "the parts wont be setting around if he crashes, and all Helis crash"... LOL he has not replied back LOL
I had another guy that asked me about them, but he has not been active on the site since he asked, that was 28 days ago. if I sell them I will buy that 70" Ryan STA Tower has
Jim
Last edited by the Wasp; 10-06-2019 at 07:13 PM.
10-07-2019, 02:28 AM
Dave three clicks is a big change when the engine is tuned well, as i'm sure it was lonnie. Did you leave the bar fridge in the shed unlocked one night, the little tuning pixies (gremlins) can be quite be a bother 
I'm sure we all do things at the field that can annoy others. My favourite gripe is people who have a plane that won't idle long enough to line up in the cue on the only taxi strip to the runway. You know his engine is going to conk out in 30 seconds, he's not carrying anything to restart it and your stuck behind him. A long time ago someone here posted a vid of this cowboy showing off to his mates tuning some big fourstroke single glow engine, could have been an fa180, anyway he was standing in front of the engine tuning it by reaching around the large prop while the plane was up on a stand. By tuning i mean he was winding the hsn a full quarter turn one way then the other while the engine was at full throttle, it threw the prop and gave him what i think you guys call a good upslap to the side of the head.
ps jim you are kindhearted so i shouldn't suggest this, ok i will. If i had any heli/two stroke parts in my shed i'd post them to someone i don't like, like club heli pilots.
pps lonnie if you'd like to test dynamite at a field i have an address for you.
I'm sure we all do things at the field that can annoy others. My favourite gripe is people who have a plane that won't idle long enough to line up in the cue on the only taxi strip to the runway. You know his engine is going to conk out in 30 seconds, he's not carrying anything to restart it and your stuck behind him. A long time ago someone here posted a vid of this cowboy showing off to his mates tuning some big fourstroke single glow engine, could have been an fa180, anyway he was standing in front of the engine tuning it by reaching around the large prop while the plane was up on a stand. By tuning i mean he was winding the hsn a full quarter turn one way then the other while the engine was at full throttle, it threw the prop and gave him what i think you guys call a good upslap to the side of the head.
ps jim you are kindhearted so i shouldn't suggest this, ok i will. If i had any heli/two stroke parts in my shed i'd post them to someone i don't like, like club heli pilots.
pps lonnie if you'd like to test dynamite at a field i have an address for you.
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10-07-2019, 02:47 AM
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Super Tigre 4500 and LA .10
Yes sir, at least 150 rpm when all is well. Even so, I'm not much of a worrier, 3 clicks would not get my attention. Nor rattle my calm demeanor, my wife says that If our house ever caught fire I'd make coffee while I called 911.
Running my Super Tigre 4500 Davis Diesel conversion would cause the Tuning Pixies to flee.
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10-07-2019, 04:33 AM
I start engines at fast idle, return them to idle. Taxi out, line up on the runway and usually take off at about one third throttle. Rarely find any reason to touch needles, some planes go for years without touching the settings.
Yesterday I brought out my old Great Planes Super Chipmunk. Has an old YS FZ 120. It hasn't been started for four years. Fired right up and runs perfect. Didn't touch the settings at all.
Taking it to the field today.
Saito and even more so, YS four stroke cycle engines seem to be very stable once set.
Another two stroke thing ; so many of the people who use them do indeed feel the need to peak and tweak. They don't even seem to realize it and when asked, they go into denial and claim they don't .
BULL!
super tiggers aint Saitos,The fuel only makes them smell worse .
Yesterday I brought out my old Great Planes Super Chipmunk. Has an old YS FZ 120. It hasn't been started for four years. Fired right up and runs perfect. Didn't touch the settings at all.
Taking it to the field today.
Saito and even more so, YS four stroke cycle engines seem to be very stable once set.
Another two stroke thing ; so many of the people who use them do indeed feel the need to peak and tweak. They don't even seem to realize it and when asked, they go into denial and claim they don't .
BULL!
super tiggers aint Saitos,The fuel only makes them smell worse .
Last edited by Jesse Open; 10-07-2019 at 05:13 AM.
10-07-2019, 05:04 AM
Two strokes are knuckle bashers. That needle is so close to the prop that one could easily smack their knuckles into the back of it. Angry Gophers on Crack is what I think of when a 2 stroke is running.
10-07-2019, 06:09 PM
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Dave three clicks is a big change when the engine is tuned well, as i'm sure it was lonnie. Did you leave the bar fridge in the shed unlocked one night, the little tuning pixies (gremlins) can be quite be a bother
I'm sure we all do things at the field that can annoy others. My favourite gripe is people who have a plane that won't idle long enough to line up in the cue on the only taxi strip to the runway. You know his engine is going to conk out in 30 seconds, he's not carrying anything to restart it and your stuck behind him. A long time ago someone here posted a vid of this cowboy showing off to his mates tuning some big fourstroke single glow engine, could have been an fa180, anyway he was standing in front of the engine tuning it by reaching around the large prop while the plane was up on a stand. By tuning i mean he was winding the hsn a full quarter turn one way then the other while the engine was at full throttle, it threw the prop and gave him what i think you guys call a good upslap to the side of the head.
ps jim you are kindhearted so i shouldn't suggest this, ok i will. If i had any heli/two stroke parts in my shed i'd post them to someone i don't like, like club heli pilots.
pps lonnie if you'd like to test dynamite at a field i have an address for you.
I'm sure we all do things at the field that can annoy others. My favourite gripe is people who have a plane that won't idle long enough to line up in the cue on the only taxi strip to the runway. You know his engine is going to conk out in 30 seconds, he's not carrying anything to restart it and your stuck behind him. A long time ago someone here posted a vid of this cowboy showing off to his mates tuning some big fourstroke single glow engine, could have been an fa180, anyway he was standing in front of the engine tuning it by reaching around the large prop while the plane was up on a stand. By tuning i mean he was winding the hsn a full quarter turn one way then the other while the engine was at full throttle, it threw the prop and gave him what i think you guys call a good upslap to the side of the head.
ps jim you are kindhearted so i shouldn't suggest this, ok i will. If i had any heli/two stroke parts in my shed i'd post them to someone i don't like, like club heli pilots.
pps lonnie if you'd like to test dynamite at a field i have an address for you.