Skygate/CARF Viperjet
#454
It flies great with either, but guessing you are hot the extra push would give you the vertical. The Viper can be like the Tutor where you don't need lots of power on the level because the wings work great, but its fat and draggy so entering slow you need the push to keep it going.
Some people would need a throttle curve so they can have the throttle stick just above mid stick and not be there on power!
I'm putting a 180 in mine :-)
Some people would need a throttle curve so they can have the throttle stick just above mid stick and not be there on power!
I'm putting a 180 in mine :-)
#455
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: TWICKENHAM, UNITED KINGDOM
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Hi,
I have a 180 rx in mine and a second 180 in a Panther so its a good back up for each model in case of strife.
The case size of the 160 and 180 are the same so there is no weight saving that I can see. I fly 1/2 throttle most of the time unless as Dave says its a definite "UP" thats in the mix and the 180 delivers this every time.
I get 7 mins and return with 500 cc landed which allows for a go around if required. Its a suits me. Having said that one of the best exponents of the Viperjet G/W flies a 160 and he can show you a thing or two but thats just skill I suspect.
You will enjoy this plane.
I have a 180 rx in mine and a second 180 in a Panther so its a good back up for each model in case of strife.
The case size of the 160 and 180 are the same so there is no weight saving that I can see. I fly 1/2 throttle most of the time unless as Dave says its a definite "UP" thats in the mix and the 180 delivers this every time.
I get 7 mins and return with 500 cc landed which allows for a go around if required. Its a suits me. Having said that one of the best exponents of the Viperjet G/W flies a 160 and he can show you a thing or two but thats just skill I suspect.
You will enjoy this plane.
#456
Thanks for feedback. I already have a 160 on hand which is why I was asking whether the airframe benefits from the additional boost. I'm not interested in trying to maximize speed out of the plane. I'm happy with 1000' verticals, which I was hoping a 160 could do. I once had a Skymaster Viper with a P200 and had to fly that plane at half power to prevent flutter. I eventually replaced the 200 with a 160 and was very happy with the performance.
#458
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I switch from a 160sx to a K210. 160 in the heat was absolutely fine for constant speed flying. The K210 is great for flying it like an IMAC plane. I can go into any vertical maneuver from a slow speed. It just pushes through. I have no intention of pushing the power like we used to do with our Flashes.
#459
I switch from a 160sx to a K210. 160 in the heat was absolutely fine for constant speed flying. The K210 is great for flying it like an IMAC plane. I can go into any vertical maneuver from a slow speed. It just pushes through. I have no intention of pushing the power like we used to do with our Flashes.
#461
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Thanks for feedback. I already have a 160 on hand which is why I was asking whether the airframe benefits from the additional boost. I'm not interested in trying to maximize speed out of the plane. I'm happy with 1000' verticals, which I was hoping a 160 could do. I once had a Skymaster Viper with a P200 and had to fly that plane at half power to prevent flutter. I eventually replaced the 200 with a 160 and was very happy with the performance.
#465
I decided to use a Behotec 220 in the Viper. It doesn't need the 50lbs of thrust, but it'll make for some nice slow speed to vertical transitions. Also, I had Tam make me a pipe and a stainless steel exhaust cone to replace the plastic cone that CARF provides.
#472
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I just started my build on my Viper.
I have all HT 7955's. Looks like it will be interesting to get the 7955 into the stab.I am sure it can be done with enough patience or maybe not at all :-))
Has anyone used the HT 7955's in their stab, and if so is there any hints to make the job easier you can give me?
I have seen where some have put the servo in 180 degrees. Has that worked out okay?
Thanks,
Stan
I have all HT 7955's. Looks like it will be interesting to get the 7955 into the stab.I am sure it can be done with enough patience or maybe not at all :-))
Has anyone used the HT 7955's in their stab, and if so is there any hints to make the job easier you can give me?
I have seen where some have put the servo in 180 degrees. Has that worked out okay?
Thanks,
Stan
#473
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I have installed a KT210. I think I might have goofed during the install. I followed all the instructions I thought.
When I set the engine in the mount I discovered that when I centered the engine in the mount the mounting holes for the turbine would have placed the screws in line with the curveture of the fiber glass on the bottom not allowing me to counter sink the screw heads There was no way to add an extension as the screw heads would still be in the same spot.
Here is where I think I goofed I pulled the sides of the left and right mount in a little which gave me enough area to now counter sink the engine screw in the bottom.
I believe doing this distorted the mount.
All this became apparent to me when I mounted the pipe and engine on the engine rails inside the fuse. I added a 1/16 shim under each side of the engine mount. It appears to be okay but I am concerned with the twisting tension I placed on the mount.
Has anyone come across this situation during their engine install?
Jet Cat engines have a wider mount and I don't believe this would happen.
Any help would be appreciated.
Stan
When I set the engine in the mount I discovered that when I centered the engine in the mount the mounting holes for the turbine would have placed the screws in line with the curveture of the fiber glass on the bottom not allowing me to counter sink the screw heads There was no way to add an extension as the screw heads would still be in the same spot.
Here is where I think I goofed I pulled the sides of the left and right mount in a little which gave me enough area to now counter sink the engine screw in the bottom.
I believe doing this distorted the mount.
All this became apparent to me when I mounted the pipe and engine on the engine rails inside the fuse. I added a 1/16 shim under each side of the engine mount. It appears to be okay but I am concerned with the twisting tension I placed on the mount.
Has anyone come across this situation during their engine install?
Jet Cat engines have a wider mount and I don't believe this would happen.
Any help would be appreciated.
Stan
#475
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I do have to pull the sides in about 1/4 inch enough so that when I pull he screws out of one side it will spring out.
I would try to re-mount the engine that's not the problem I just can't figure out how to mount the engine to the carbon fiber mount so that I can countersink those screws from the bottom. There is no room to do that without pulling the carbon fiber sides of the mount in.
I wonder what other KT users have done to solve the problem?
I agree with you that once the mount is secured to the rails it will probably be okay, but I just don't feel happy with the way it is now.
Thanks,
Stan