zeev barnes

Thanks Dave
Do you know when it will be on stock?
i saw in CARF web site that all colors schame are with red dot (not in stock)

Dave Wilshere

The first kits are being finished up now, many people took the deposit option offered around Xmas and they will get the first kits. May be worth you talking with your chosen rep and see what air shipment from the factory would cost.

Dave

flesche

Had a few flights on my Viper its one of the best jet I ever flown,another winner?

Neil Collins

More photos please, please, please.

flesche

Hello Neil
I have send you a PM. Geir

zeev barnes

I have ordered this VIPER from my country dealer
does someone can reccomend the best choice of ELECTRIC RETRACT for this giant

pfact

My Feedback: (92)

I am planning on installing Electron ER-50's. The Electron guys recommended using the ER-50 for their extra strength. I plan to use a Lado E-door linear actuator to close the nose door.

I bought the struts, wheels, and brakes direct from Airtech Germany as my dealer couldn't get get an answer from CARF regarding purchase of the gear without the retracts.

Your other option would be to buy the CARF gear and have Down and Locked convert them to electric. I did this on another plane - its the best way to go but is a very expensive option.

Phil

zeev barnes

Hi Phil
thank you for the information
can you send the item no. of the set from airtech
can you post some pictures ?
best

pfact

My Feedback: (92)

Zeev,

Sorry it has takne me so long to get back to you - here is a link to the Airtech gear I bought: /www.airtech-germany.de/mambo/index.php?page=shop/flypage&product_id=208&category_id=cc9429d612a49c3 60eb3ea1301c0ef33&option=com_phpshop

My Viper arrived last Tuesday - picture attached. I plan to start work on it right after Joe Nall

zeev barnes

Thanks Phil
for the information
i wish the best with this VIPER
please
can you send me PM with all the prices that you have got for the retracts
thank you in advance
best

snobird

My Feedback: (36)

pfact,
did you get your Viper thru Ray L. ?. I should have mine by the end of May, I hope. I guess there is no manual with the kit , so everyone building one needs to chip in on Issues. should be a fun project.

pfact

My Feedback: (92)

Yes - Ray arranged for the Viper for me. I just figured out a few minutes ago that there is no manual - this is a sign that CARF has not strayed far from the original Skygate concept and German ARF philosophy.

I also just got my Electron retracts - I'm not yet sure if they will fit, the depth of the retract opening is within 1mm of accommodating the retract.

I plan to start building right after Joe Nall and will be happy to post what I do. The kit looks like a lot of the work is already done by the manufacturer.

Phil

pfact

My Feedback: (92)

Does anyone know of a Skygate Viper build thread or does anyone know where to find the build photos from the disk that Skygate supplied with their ARF kit?

Phil

Eagle Driver

IQ-Hammer offers a brand new gear for this viper ....

basea

Phil

Have you discovered whether the ER50 retracts fit the Viper yet? Did you go for the nose wheel steering option or will you be using wires?

pfact

My Feedback: (92)

Andy

I haven't been able to start my build yet. I do know there is enough depth for the ER50's and that the mount needs to be widened by <1mm to accommodate the width of the retracts. What I don't know is if the strut cover plate will sit below the surface of the wing.

I plan to start building some time next week. I will do the landing gear first

The retracts I received include the tiller steering but I am not impressed with the amount of movement it permits so I may go with a traditional pull- pull setup.

Did your kit come with a fuel tank and hd
Adware?

Phil

basea

Phil

Mine came with fuel tank but I had to order it as an extra. It's not included in the basic kit. Please post as soon as you have discovered whether the ER50s fit ok with respect to the strut covers.

pfact

My Feedback: (92)

Thanks

Do you know how big the tank is?

Phil

snobird

My Feedback: (36)

Phil, same tank as the Tutor and Hawk. 4 liter

pfact

My Feedback: (92)

Andy,

I spent some time today measuring the ER50's and the wings - the ER50's will not fit, they are too tall. The aft edge, without the gear cover will protrude beyond the surface of the wing. On my right wing they are also too deep along the aft edge to sit on the retract mounting plates without deforming the top of the wing.

I am going to order the retracts from Airtech instead.

Phil

basea

Phil

Thanks a lot. I will look at the ER40s and other options.

pfact

My Feedback: (92)

The ER40's are too narrow - the mounting holes won't reach the mounting plates

The best option is Down and Locked - its also the most expensive option.

Phil

Peter A

My Feedback: (34)

Actually the Er-40 are perfect with very minor modification. Er-50 is too much for this kit.
I have just made a set using the Er-40, Behotec trailing link struts, wheels and air brakes.
Will have electric brakes soon and have also put together a wing light kit for it.
LADO 999 will also work well.

Short video demo:
http://youtu.be/Otz9xrMyDl8

basea

Peter

Any chance you can post some more details on how you modified the ER40s to fit? Many thanks.

Peter A

My Feedback: (34)

Sure Imade 3 Ushaped plates from good quality ply wood and hysoled them in place.
Gave an extra 1/4" height increase but a small penalty to pay to fit the Er-40.