THE RETURN OF THE VIPERJET
07-16-2005, 09:19 PM
#51
RE: THE RETURN OF THE VIPERJET
Great work Matt.
In my case there a a few issues to be solve to do what you did.....I'm using Robart, and the trunion when is retracted, is not flush with the gear base...also there are part of the struts that is not flush with the wing surface when retracted,,,,they are above the surface....[
]There is not enough height
... in a way that thinking in 20 thousands thick is impossible.....at least 1/8 inch...It could be done flush....but it will require cutting the actual gear bases to glue another one lower or deep into the wing.....but at the same time sacrifaying strenght [:@]
I'll take your ideas and credit
to do some head scratching....but with 1/8!QUOT! thick...
07-16-2005, 09:20 PM
#52
RE: THE RETURN OF THE VIPERJET
The inner doors are a little different. The entire mechnism is removable. I could not get inside the wing to mount the mechanism, so I made it on the outside to bolt in.
It is hard to tell from these pictures, but the hinges are removable, and are held in place by the inner door itself. I also do not show the up and down stop adjustments.
Like I said, these are not flush, but if you really want them to be, you can go back and butter them in with evercoat and sand them down. I did that on the BVM Viper
It is hard to tell from these pictures, but the hinges are removable, and are held in place by the inner door itself. I also do not show the up and down stop adjustments.
Like I said, these are not flush, but if you really want them to be, you can go back and butter them in with evercoat and sand them down. I did that on the BVM Viper
07-16-2005, 09:28 PM
#54
RE: THE RETURN OF THE VIPERJET
ORIGINAL: Miguel Santana
I'll take your ideas and credit
I'll take your ideas and credit
The new ones I have seen from Tam, JetPower and the new south african ones look pretty thin....Or try some old aluminum BVM retracts, they have the seperate air ram like you mentioned.
Good luck, I will have another Sierra in your honor!
Matt
07-16-2005, 09:43 PM
#56
RE: THE RETURN OF THE VIPERJET
Even if I get another gear.....the problem of having to cut the actual gear base is going to be there and when I meen cut....I mean really taking the base out....
Talking about credit cards....Tam is about to releave his VIP customer credit and discount card...name Master Tamrd [sm=lol.gif]
BTW, I'll have the Eagle 3 telemetry system on board this Viperjet...
And wait til you tried one Presidente beer....[sm=thumbup.gif] http://www.asopao.tv/Presidente%20Bonita.htm#
and when I meen cut....I mean really taking the base out....Talking about credit cards....Tam is about to releave his VIP customer credit and discount card...name Master Tamrd [sm=lol.gif]
BTW, I'll have the Eagle 3 telemetry system on board this Viperjet...
And wait til you tried one Presidente beer....[sm=thumbup.gif] http://www.asopao.tv/Presidente%20Bonita.htm#
ORIGINAL: mr_matt
AHH I see now...the "credit" you need is the VISA card kind......go buy some thinner retracts!!
The new ones I have seen from Tam, JetPower and the new south african ones look pretty thin....Or try some old aluminum BVM retracts, they have the seperate air ram like you mentioned.
Good luck, I will have another Sierra in your honor!
Matt
AHH I see now...the "credit" you need is the VISA card kind......go buy some thinner retracts!!
The new ones I have seen from Tam, JetPower and the new south african ones look pretty thin....Or try some old aluminum BVM retracts, they have the seperate air ram like you mentioned.
Good luck, I will have another Sierra in your honor!
Matt
07-17-2005, 12:40 AM
#58
RE: THE RETURN OF THE VIPERJET
After another 6 green bottle. Let see if I can write.
We are putting another Viper Jet together for updating the instruction. Friday I had my builder doing the main gear. WE try to do some kind of gear door for the main. But after install the Robart 1/2" straight struts to my low profile retract. But there is not enough room for the wheels.
The wheel are touching the top skin. So I end up raise my gear by 1/8" to clear the wheels from touching the top skin.
Now the wheels and struts fit very well inside the wheel pan. But the retract are higher than the skins.
At least I give a try. Now I can tell everyone don't bother with main gear doors. It could be done. But require some molding parts to make it look nice and neat.
Miguel,
I like your speed brake set up.
Today after coming back from weeken flying. I came up some tooling to make the speed brake easier to install without cutting wood parts.
I took the Super Hornet scale flaps hinges and playing around with it. I got an idea to make it to work for the Viper Jet speed brake.
I'll post some photos to show what it look like when I get to close to finished it.
Mean while, keep up with your progress. I love your works.
Maybe you move in with me. I do recruit high intellegence mind. But the pay kind of s''ck. Just a bow of rice and dawn good vietnamese coffee.
Ask Dave. He know all about it. He work his auss off just for some good coffee which I special make for him and bow of rice for lunch.
We are putting another Viper Jet together for updating the instruction. Friday I had my builder doing the main gear. WE try to do some kind of gear door for the main. But after install the Robart 1/2" straight struts to my low profile retract. But there is not enough room for the wheels.
The wheel are touching the top skin. So I end up raise my gear by 1/8" to clear the wheels from touching the top skin.
Now the wheels and struts fit very well inside the wheel pan. But the retract are higher than the skins.
At least I give a try. Now I can tell everyone don't bother with main gear doors. It could be done. But require some molding parts to make it look nice and neat.
Miguel,
I like your speed brake set up.
Today after coming back from weeken flying. I came up some tooling to make the speed brake easier to install without cutting wood parts.
I took the Super Hornet scale flaps hinges and playing around with it. I got an idea to make it to work for the Viper Jet speed brake.
I'll post some photos to show what it look like when I get to close to finished it.
Mean while, keep up with your progress. I love your works.
Maybe you move in with me. I do recruit high intellegence mind. But the pay kind of s''ck. Just a bow of rice and dawn good vietnamese coffee.
Ask Dave. He know all about it. He work his auss off just for some good coffee which I special make for him and bow of rice for lunch.
07-17-2005, 09:31 PM
#59
RE: THE RETURN OF THE VIPERJET
Tam,
Your vietnanenglish is getting better my friend...don't give up on the green botlles method [sm=thumbup.gif]
You had made a perfect description of the problem...apparently you are very familiar with the Supa Vipeljet, umh....I wonder why?
You da manAnyway I will give a try to Matt proposal of doing outer doors.....and tomorrow going to Analise all with wing on hands.
Glad you liked the speed brakes too [8D]... cutting the wood ribs was not big deal....I made the 4 that goes at the speed brakes(SB) at the same time together, same for the others....They look so cool
...Why don't you prepare a SB installation kit???????[&:][&:]Bye.....
07-18-2005, 08:37 AM
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RE: THE RETURN OF THE VIPERJET
Miguel,
Good Job, First time I read this thread and all I can tell you is Congratulations ...
I know you are enjoying this more than anybody else.
Felicidades.
Gamal.
Good Job, First time I read this thread and all I can tell you is Congratulations ...
I know you are enjoying this more than anybody else.
Felicidades.
Gamal.
07-20-2005, 02:51 PM
#64
RE: THE RETURN OF THE VIPERJET
Back to business
The main doors can be done, but as said before some molding and fiberglass work need to be done. keep in mind the wings fairings for the doors....
I decided to move on with the rest of the plane...p e r h a p s I may do the doors later on [sm=spinnyeyes.gif]
The main doors can be done, but as said before some molding and fiberglass work need to be done. keep in mind the wings fairings for the doors....
I decided to move on with the rest of the plane...p e r h a p s
I may do the doors later on [sm=spinnyeyes.gif]
07-20-2005, 03:03 PM
#65
RE: THE RETURN OF THE VIPERJET
The Robart gear needed some modification in order to reduce its height...also drilled new holes and adapted them for flat head 6-32 screw with blind nuts.-
If you go with Tam's gear....no mods are needed.
I decided the make the wheel pans removable....in honor to Mr. Matt who love removable stuff.... Very convenience I think due you are able to work better routing all cables and houses.
At the end it looks nice and what seemed to be a problem at the beginning ended been an advantage due the wheels are not pushing up the upper skin when retracted lucky S.O.A.B
If you go with Tam's gear....no mods are needed.
I decided the make the wheel pans removable....in honor to Mr. Matt
who love removable stuff.... Very convenience I think due you are able to work better routing all cables and houses.At the end it looks nice and what seemed to be a problem at the beginning ended been an advantage due the wheels are not pushing up the upper skin when retracted
lucky S.O.A.B
07-20-2005, 03:19 PM
#67
RE: THE RETURN OF THE VIPERJET
The wing's servos are mounted in position, using Tam's servos mounts....very cool stuff[sm=thumbup.gif]
Also prepared the hatch to use 2-56 flat head screws with blind nuts....looks great....and flat
I made a template to mount these servos...but forgot them in the Lab....[&o] I'll post them later along with the templates to do the speed brakes and nose door ribs, including dimentions.
Also prepared the hatch to use 2-56 flat head screws with blind nuts....looks great....and flat
I made a template to mount these servos...but forgot them in the Lab....[&o] I'll post them later along with the templates to do the speed brakes and nose door ribs, including dimentions.
07-23-2005, 04:02 PM
#70
RE: THE RETURN OF THE VIPERJET
I decided to play a little bit with some ideas I had for a FOD design.....improvement(?)....and it worked.-
I never liked the idea of having the metal screen big hole touching a/o scratching the electric starter housing...and the possibility of one piece of metal getting loose and suck by the turbine...
The carbon fiber rim has 3mm in thickness and tapped with 2-56 holes. For the rest of details....I let the pictures talks by them self.
I never liked the idea of having the metal screen big hole touching a/o scratching the electric starter housing...and the possibility of one piece of metal getting loose and suck by the turbine...
The carbon fiber rim has 3mm in thickness and tapped with 2-56 holes. For the rest of details....I let the pictures talks by them self.
07-26-2005, 09:54 PM
#71
RE: THE RETURN OF THE VIPERJET
The ailerons and flaps are mounted in place....some sanding need to be done at the wing trailing edges to get an adequate travel...slow works to not over sand a/o cut
This is boring stuff in comparison with the fun I had with the speed brakes and nose gear set up....but there is one BVM MIG-15 in the future which give the feeling I'll have lots of (to much [][&:]) with it.
Not picture at this moment...only my bad English para que sufran
My Eagle 3 telemetry system is already at my courier.... can't wait....Thanks Eddie Weeks [sm=thumbup.gif]
This is boring stuff
in comparison with the fun I had with the speed brakes and nose gear set up....but there is one BVM MIG-15 in the future which give the feeling I'll have lots of (to much [][&:]) with it.Not picture at this moment...only my bad English para que sufran
My Eagle 3 telemetry system is already at my courier....
can't wait....Thanks Eddie Weeks [sm=thumbup.gif]
08-16-2005, 09:24 AM
#73
RE: THE RETURN OF THE VIPERJET
Thanks Giaconni. I'm still waiting your visit at the lab .
Well, after a while off the air with this thread....I been giving the final touches....and the all last week was sanding, sanding, sanding,.........sanding.......sanding........an after that more sanding, sanding....finally I ended up hating sanding [>:]. Even better....don't ever want the hear anything about it....at least for a couple of month...Definitely you got to love "this thing" to go through all this sanding craziness [sm=cool.gif]
The Viper is going today to the paint shop......at last! [&:] and BTW would like to thanks my friends Alex and Marcos for his good company and specially to James No Fly for his help with this tedious process
Will post picture later one...has tons of things to bring here up
Later.-
.Well, after a while off the air with this thread....I been giving the final touches....and the all last week was sanding, sanding, sanding,.........sanding.......sanding........an after that more sanding, sanding....finally I ended up hating sanding [>:]. Even better....don't ever want the hear anything about it....at least for a couple of month...Definitely you got to love "this thing" to go through all this sanding craziness [sm=cool.gif]
The Viper is going today to the paint shop......at last! [&:] and BTW would like to thanks my friends Alex and Marcos for his good company and specially to James No Fly for his help with this tedious process
Will post picture later one...has tons of things to bring here up
Later.-
09-08-2005, 10:16 AM
#74
RE: THE RETURN OF THE VIPERJET
I been under the "Lazy Posting Disease" I guess.....
Tam,
The Viper is 99% ready and look so beautiful that I'm considering not to fly it [&:].....
Let me have your recommendations for the surfaces deflection and mixing....
Maiden date: Saturday September 17th, 2005
and.....yes, yes, yes....I'll post all the remaining pictures.
MS
Tam,
The Viper is 99% ready and look so beautiful that I'm considering not to fly it [&:].....
Let me have your recommendations for the surfaces deflection and mixing....
Maiden date: Saturday September 17th, 2005
and.....yes, yes, yes....I'll post all the remaining pictures.
MS
09-08-2005, 12:10 PM
#75
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RE: THE RETURN OF THE VIPERJET
Quit teasing us and post a picture Miguel!!! I'm glad you've got it done. Please keep us posted on the maiden. We are going to have at least 4 Viperjets at the Fresno Jet Rally and hoping to get them all in the air at the same time for some smoke-on formation flying. Good Luck!
John O.
John O.