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Old 11-27-2006, 04:51 PM
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werd! [:-]


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That you would have some with ANY motor on that spreadsheet at 12 lbs!!!!!!!!!!!!
Old 11-28-2006, 09:35 AM
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You may need to use lighter wood in the tail. With the light engine in the nose, you want to keep the tail light to even out the balance. Or it may balance perfectly right out of the box, hard to tell. It's always better to have it come out a little nose heavy and push the batteries back a little.

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I have plans for an 27%, 80" Extra that I think will come in at 12lbs with the new Brillelli 46, if not lighter. I can use heavier wood toward the tail and whatnot to keep it balanced.

What was that about vertical snaps Bob?


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Also that Brillelli 46 is so light that it might cause balancing problems making some larger planes come out tail heavy. Not that's a nice problem to have......reminds me of the phantom BME 55......
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Err yeah that's what I meant. lol

Thanks for the correction!


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You may need to use lighter wood in the tail. With the light engine in the nose, you want to keep the tail light to even out the balance. Or it may balance perfectly right out of the box, hard to tell. It's always better to have it come out a little nose heavy and push the batteries back a little.

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I have plans for an 27%, 80" Extra that I think will come in at 12lbs with the new Brillelli 46, if not lighter. I can use heavier wood toward the tail and whatnot to keep it balanced.

What was that about vertical snaps Bob?


ORIGINAL: JoeAirPort

Also that Brillelli 46 is so light that it might cause balancing problems making some larger planes come out tail heavy. Not that's a nice problem to have......reminds me of the phantom BME 55......
Old 11-28-2006, 08:15 PM
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Bob, can you include info on the stroke length for the engines listed in your table?
Old 11-28-2006, 08:44 PM
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Difficult info to obtain....and I'd rather not get into a bunch of tech specs. Sooner or later someone starts the cantilevered v.s. non-cantilevered crank and the cast v.s. machined head/crankcase issues..... then of course, the "prop bolts", how many SHOULD there be, and "which is best?".....

No, sorry.... not gonna go there.
Old 11-29-2006, 12:13 AM
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Very wise move Bob.
Old 11-29-2006, 08:38 PM
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Thanks for taking the time to put the chart together. Great info. I'll bet many people are using it who you never hear from.
Old 11-29-2006, 09:18 PM
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Thank you for the positive comment, Flylow. I am happy to say I've gotten more good ones than not. I was very fortunate this past season to be able to do a lot of playing with motors, so it was pretty easy to collect the data while coming up the learning curve.

So much to learn........... so little time.......... so much less objective data......
Old 11-30-2006, 09:07 AM
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I do not see mention of the MVVS/Evolution 58. It is certainly worthy of being included.
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This fetish about gas engine weights has gone waaay to far. A few ounces either way just ain't that big a deal on a gasser. I can see it on a foamy, but not the big stuff.
Old 11-30-2006, 11:46 AM
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Silversurfer - As you are already aware from EARLIER problems in this thread..... why do you try to inflame people who choose to be concerned about the weights of motors? There are a lot of reasons folks choose what they buy, you know that.

This data is simply INFORMATION. If it feeds someones' sexual aberrative behaviors ("fetish", by definition), then who cares?

IT IS JUST INFORMATION.

I do not have a reliable source for MVVS 58 data, so it isn't included.
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Default RE: Gas Engine Weights - 50cc WEIGHT Class

Well if you are going to invest in a CF spinner, CF wingtubes, Pro ball links, PSP Titianium axel, lipos etc etc whats teh difference if you look at the engine too?

I mean all of those items save 4-8 oz...in the end the total weight savings makes a huge difference.


I mean personally, I think seeing the mythical bme 55 or DA 75 being brought up serveral times a month rediculous... but yet its been happening for ages
Old 11-30-2006, 02:10 PM
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Yep I am totally into weights of things. This is the best engine spread sheet on the planet. Before this it was all disputes over what's the lightest engine. This is as close to the facts as one can possibly get. Thanks for doing it Bob !!
Old 12-01-2006, 07:52 AM
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No probs, dude. I was simply trying to make people aware that it's easy to take this stuff too far. I've been trying to wean myself of this stuff. Thanks for the assist.
Old 12-03-2006, 09:27 AM
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Updates.... more info.... now includes 40cc gas engines....
http://www.rcaerobats.net/GAS_ENGINE...ENGINE_WTS.htm
Old 02-03-2011, 12:46 PM
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I guess Bob shut down his web site?
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About a year ago....
Old 02-03-2011, 05:28 PM
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any way to get a copy of his last weight chart?
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And don't forget to include, and mention the brand, and weight of the oil that is adhereing to the cylinder walls, and crankcase of each engine weighed .

Not that the brand is important or anything. .... ....

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