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Old 04-15-2021, 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by F900
I'd hate to see what my 80n turbine gets at 5500ft not including density lol
HAHA! Totally! Need to stuff in a 200 at that altitude!
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Originally Posted by Canadian Man
HAHA! Totally! Need to stuff in a 200 at that altitude!
Bigger is always better eh? (said in my best but horrible Canadian accent)
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Old 04-15-2021, 08:13 AM
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Like super troopers 2 horrible? Eh
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Old 04-15-2021, 08:49 AM
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Hi Tone,

This is a pretty simplistic chart that shows the degradation of thrust with altitude. This is not manufacturer specific. The simplest way to interpret this is to look at at notation in KPa. 3500 feet was mentioned which equates to ~1080meters. On this chart see highlighted 1000 meters and you will see 90.7% performance. Calculate loss at other altitudes the same way.

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Are you at a high altitude perchance? I was expecting the pull to be closer to 18lbs but your scale said 13.6lbs. My swiwin 80 pulls like a champ.
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Holy cow I am at 80% power or so, and on a hot day with density altitude it gets really bad.
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There are other factors such as temperature and humidity and believe me I have taken two identical turbines side by side and gotten different measurements. This is just not an exact science. But yes your motor will behave differently in Denver versus at sea level.

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Holy cow I am at 80% power or so, and on a hot day with density altitude it gets really bad.
Old 04-15-2021, 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by AEROSHELDON
Holy cow I am at 80% power or so, and on a hot day with density altitude it gets really bad.
I don't think its as bad as we might think, Yes, well I'm well aware it does play a huge factor, I flew my L-39 with ACEx 80 and I've noticed no day and night difference in terms of performance, between Denver and FL, I flew Josh's L-39 with same turbine in 98F+ temps, midday, smoke all around from forest fires and its a little sluggish but not marginal, but my view is if a 120 works at sea level, for us in Denver best to get a 140 sized turbine.
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I fly at Denver (5700ft) I have measured static thrust at approx. 18% lower than advertised thrust.
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I’ve noticed higher speed with the ultra flash in cool air airframe efficiency and engine performance gains all add up.
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Originally Posted by Maddmaxx1
I am at 600 feet and on my SW80 I get 16.5 pounds of thrust (73 Newton’s) at 154,000 rpm and 17.5 lbs (78 Newton’s) at 160,000 rpm.
question, how do you manage to set your max rpm at 160K ?
mine is limited to 155 K
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Originally Posted by powerjets
question, how do you manage to set your max rpm at 160K ?
mine is limited to 155 K
thanks
The early Swiwin 80 was set to 160,000.

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Wow, that's a big difference of 5000 rpm at the top end.
anybody know how to program this ?
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Probable governed the ECU for rpm.
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Same engine, same ECU.
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Same country origin built on different days, remember who builds them.......!!!!!!
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....?? Please explain
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Not quite

Originally Posted by Skunkwrks
Same country origin built on different days, remember who builds them.......!!!!!!
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Ah, ok, thanks for your reply Andy
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We modified the output on the earlier 80s. The 60 and 80 wheels are similar. The 80 wheel is 1.5mm larger than the 60 with the same profile. We knew that 5k would yield 85 output but the factory did not want us to push it. So we stopped offering it. There is nothing that the end user can do to increase the max RPM, only to lower it. .

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Wow, that's a big difference of 5000 rpm at the top end.
anybody know how to program this ?
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Old 05-11-2021, 07:05 AM
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Swiwin 140 Testrun and review.

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One day I ran into an interesting problem with sw120b. All worked fine until engine did not recognize throttle. I swapped cables and tried everything until I contacted CRX turbines via whatsapp. Well, easy fix. Set Jeti system from auto pulse widht ( or frame rate..) to 16ms ( 15ms only selectable rex3 assist) and problem gone.

now I am wondering why its like this? Good servos need fast frame rate to get everything out of them and now you have to reduce your system speed to keep engine ecu hanging along..
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That's an interesting issue with the Jeti servo frame rate. In Harry Curzon video
, he talks about leaving it at auto setting or like you did select a frame rate.
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Harry doesn't cover the frame rate for the servos in his video it's not in this one, my bad. Ooops

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Old 05-12-2021, 03:50 PM
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Ceeray, Others have told me 11ms is the magic number. 16 will definitely enable you to connect Jeti with the Swiwin ECU.

Andy

Originally Posted by Ceeray
One day I ran into an interesting problem with sw120b. All worked fine until engine did not recognize throttle. I swapped cables and tried everything until I contacted CRX turbines via whatsapp. Well, easy fix. Set Jeti system from auto pulse widht ( or frame rate..) to 16ms ( 15ms only selectable rex3 assist) and problem gone.

now I am wondering why its like this? Good servos need fast frame rate to get everything out of them and now you have to reduce your system speed to keep engine ecu hanging along..

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Old 05-12-2021, 04:04 PM
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Density Altitude is just a fact of aviation life as those of us with full scale licenses will tell you. It can make a huge difference in A/C performance be it full scale or drone or model.

The place where lots of guys like to fly around here, is an old Salt Flats lake bed. It will commonly hit 90 degrees or over in the mid summer. You HAVE to be aware of that as it not only affects engine performance but how well the wings will generate lift. There are just fewer air molecules to work with and that DA can be affected by Barometric Pressure, and Humidity.

Bottom line is that as the DA goes up, you may need to adjust Turbine idle RPM and slow down the ramp speed or they just won't play when it gets high, hot, and wet.
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