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This may go against the grain...
My neighborhood is pretty quiet and I'm in good standing with all my neighbors. I'm afraid running my Savage in the street/grass/sidewalk around my house may piss some people off. Iobviously won't run it too early or too late, and I plan on taking it to some bike trails and barren fields a lot too. My question is simple. Are there ways to make the engine/exhaust quieter? Any input would be greatly appreciated!
03-30-2010, 01:54 PM
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RE: This may go against the grain...
I feel the exact same way. I try to wait for a weekday before running it around my house, and even then I'm feeling guilty after about 10min. I've been thinking of trying this out: http://www.hpisavageforum.com/forums...ad.php?t=13861
My exhaust isn't end bleed like this though, so I'm not sure how I'd do it.
My exhaust isn't end bleed like this though, so I'm not sure how I'd do it.
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RE: This may go against the grain...
good luck havin thatfreakish lookin thing stay on after a jump...one little bump and its rollin away in the opposite direction!
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RE: This may go against the grain...
wow that looks ridiculous (and the Sanford and son jokes gave me a good laugh 
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Almost as bad as those hondas with the giant coffee cans welded on the end of the pip to look hardcore
And seeing a Savage is quieter than a lawn mower I personally wouldn't care
just make sure you keep the pipe on they can be insanely loud if the pipe falls off as I've learned in the past
)Almost as bad as those hondas with the giant coffee cans welded on the end of the pip to look hardcore
And seeing a Savage is quieter than a lawn mower I personally wouldn't care
just make sure you keep the pipe on they can be insanely loud if the pipe falls off as I've learned in the past
03-30-2010, 07:50 PM
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RE: This may go against the grain...
if you are already in good standing then just ask them what time of day would be better. Most find these trucks at least interesting and won't complain. Really inside a house the noise of a nitro truck is barely heard. That can will make your truck run like crap. You will most likely have to re-tune it the more exhuast the less power. The motor needs to breath in and out. That's why you never see any exhuast on drag cars, just straight headers.
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That can on the end of the pipe outlet may look like crap, but something like that is really the only way you're going to be able to significantly reduce the noise output without killing performance. The noise level (dB) is affected mostly by the pressure and flow rate of the exhaust gases as they enter the atmosphere, and a device that effectively slows the gas flow and reduces its pressure is not going to be small by any means.
IMO, if you want quiet, you should buy an electric R/C. Nitro engines are designed to be loud, as it adds realism to the driving experience. They were never intended to be neighborhood friendly.
IMO, if you want quiet, you should buy an electric R/C. Nitro engines are designed to be loud, as it adds realism to the driving experience. They were never intended to be neighborhood friendly.
03-30-2010, 08:32 PM
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I look at it this way. I don't expect them to ask me what time is a good time to cut the grass or use the weed trimmer. It probably takes them longer to cut the grass then to run the trucks. I usually run them for a tank or 2. Thats usually the fix I need. I would probably run them longer, but i'm the only one that still runs them. My buddies bailed on me.
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That can on the end of the pipe outlet may look like crap, but something like that is really the only way you're going to be able to significantly reduce the noise output without killing performance. The noise level (dB) is affected mostly by the pressure and flow rate of the exhaust gases as they enter the atmosphere, and a device that effectively slows the gas flow and reduces its pressure is not going to be small by any means.
IMO, if you want quiet, you should buy an electric R/C. Nitro engines are designed to be loud, as it adds realism to the driving experience. They were never intended to be neighborhood friendly.
That can on the end of the pipe outlet may look like crap, but something like that is really the only way you're going to be able to significantly reduce the noise output without killing performance. The noise level (dB) is affected mostly by the pressure and flow rate of the exhaust gases as they enter the atmosphere, and a device that effectively slows the gas flow and reduces its pressure is not going to be small by any means.
IMO, if you want quiet, you should buy an electric R/C. Nitro engines are designed to be loud, as it adds realism to the driving experience. They were never intended to be neighborhood friendly.
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IMO, if you want quiet, you should buy an electric R/C. Nitro engines are designed to be loud, as it adds realism to the driving experience. They were never intended to be neighborhood friendly.
IMO, if you want quiet, you should buy an electric R/C. Nitro engines are designed to be loud, as it adds realism to the driving experience. They were never intended to be neighborhood friendly.
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they're not designed to be loud, thier design makes them inherently loud big differance, its like a F-16, the guy's with PHD's in areospace weren't like hey this is a great plane and you know what would make it even awsomer if we made it super loud, OMG YES!!!!!!!!!!, no, it was this is great, now how can we get the volume down for civilian comforts, call me OCD, but i'm just making this clearer so we don't get some kid quoting you saying, hey can i get a nitro designed to be quite then feeling all dumb, cuz someone links them to a BL system...
they're not designed to be loud, thier design makes them inherently loud big differance, its like a F-16, the guy's with PHD's in areospace weren't like hey this is a great plane and you know what would make it even awsomer if we made it super loud, OMG YES!!!!!!!!!!, no, it was this is great, now how can we get the volume down for civilian comforts, call me OCD, but i'm just making this clearer so we don't get some kid quoting you saying, hey can i get a nitro designed to be quite then feeling all dumb, cuz someone links them to a BL system...
Nitro engines are inherently loud, yes, so noise is usually taken for granted, but it is clearly part of the design criteria. We have ultra quiet brushless systems that outperform nitro engines, so why do we bother with our slower and less efficient fuel guzzlers? The answer is realism. People want something that sounds like a screaming engine. With the advent of new brushless technology, nitro would be obsolete if it didn't offer that experience. So yes, being loud is an intentional design aspect; it's largely what the concept of engine powered R/Cs is based on.
Here's an experiment you can try at home. Look over at your Savage, and visualize the pipe it came with. That's one big stinger, right? Think about how it killed your top end performance by providing insufficient backpressure. But damn, was it ever loud. Now why did HPI's engineers decide to use a super loud, performance killing 10mm stinger on their Savage tuned pipe? Hmm...
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This is not a good analogy at all.
Nitro engines are inherently loud, yes, so noise is usually taken for granted, but it is clearly part of the design criteria. We have ultra quiet brushless systems that outperform nitro engines, so why do we bother with our slower and less efficient fuel guzzlers? The answer is realism. People want something that sounds like a screaming engine. With the advent of new brushless technology, nitro would be obsolete if it didn't offer that experience. So yes, being loud is an intentional design aspect; it's largely what the concept of engine powered R/Cs is based on.
Here's an experiment you can try at home. Look over at your Savage, and visualize the pipe it came with. That's one big stinger, right? Think about how it killed your top end performance by providing insufficient backpressure. But damn, was it ever loud. Now why did HPI's engineers decide to use a super loud, performance killing 10mm stinger on their Savage tuned pipe? Hmm...
ORIGINAL: rclugnut10
they're not designed to be loud, thier design makes them inherently loud big differance, its like a F-16, the guy's with PHD's in areospace weren't like hey this is a great plane and you know what would make it even awsomer if we made it super loud, OMG YES!!!!!!!!!!, no, it was this is great, now how can we get the volume down for civilian comforts, call me OCD, but i'm just making this clearer so we don't get some kid quoting you saying, hey can i get a nitro designed to be quite then feeling all dumb, cuz someone links them to a BL system...
they're not designed to be loud, thier design makes them inherently loud big differance, its like a F-16, the guy's with PHD's in areospace weren't like hey this is a great plane and you know what would make it even awsomer if we made it super loud, OMG YES!!!!!!!!!!, no, it was this is great, now how can we get the volume down for civilian comforts, call me OCD, but i'm just making this clearer so we don't get some kid quoting you saying, hey can i get a nitro designed to be quite then feeling all dumb, cuz someone links them to a BL system...
Nitro engines are inherently loud, yes, so noise is usually taken for granted, but it is clearly part of the design criteria. We have ultra quiet brushless systems that outperform nitro engines, so why do we bother with our slower and less efficient fuel guzzlers? The answer is realism. People want something that sounds like a screaming engine. With the advent of new brushless technology, nitro would be obsolete if it didn't offer that experience. So yes, being loud is an intentional design aspect; it's largely what the concept of engine powered R/Cs is based on.
Here's an experiment you can try at home. Look over at your Savage, and visualize the pipe it came with. That's one big stinger, right? Think about how it killed your top end performance by providing insufficient backpressure. But damn, was it ever loud. Now why did HPI's engineers decide to use a super loud, performance killing 10mm stinger on their Savage tuned pipe? Hmm...
I like nitro cause its more fun than electric for the most part. I like challenges and which ones more challenging to get moving? plugging a battery into an ESC or trying to start up a nitro engine and getting it to move?
03-31-2010, 12:05 AM
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HPI gives you that loud p.o.s. Pipe for the same reason they give you P.O.S. Spur gears and CB's. The $ in the RC world isn't from selling the trucks its the aftermarket parts and upgrades. If you bought a new truck that had all of the good stuff on it how would the company stay in business.
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realism don't play it IMO
I like nitro cause its more fun than electric for the most part. I like challenges and which ones more challenging to get moving? plugging a battery into an ESC or trying to start up a nitro engine and getting it to move?
I like nitro cause its more fun than electric for the most part. I like challenges and which ones more challenging to get moving? plugging a battery into an ESC or trying to start up a nitro engine and getting it to move?
I know I'm only speaking for myself, but I like things loud. Most of my hobbies involve sound levels well in excess of 100dB, so the noise of a screaming engine fits right in.
HPI gives you that loud p.o.s. Pipe for the same reason they give you P.O.S. Spur gears and CB's. The $ in the RC world isn't from selling the trucks its the aftermarket parts and upgrades. If you bought a new truck that had all of the good stuff on it how would the company stay in business.
03-31-2010, 03:31 AM
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And soooo many people own one right? They price themselfs out of the average RCers league. Here's an experiment you can do at home. Call your LHS and ask them what they make more money on cars or parts?
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And soooo many people own one right? They price themselfs out of the average RCers league. Here's an experiment you can do at home. Call your LHS and ask them what they make more money on cars or parts?
And soooo many people own one right? They price themselfs out of the average RCers league. Here's an experiment you can do at home. Call your LHS and ask them what they make more money on cars or parts?
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I feel the exact same way. I try to wait for a weekday before running it around my house, and even then I'm feeling guilty after about 10min. I've been thinking of trying this out: http://www.hpisavageforum.com/forums...ad.php?t=13861
My exhaust isn't end bleed like this though, so I'm not sure how I'd do it.
I feel the exact same way. I try to wait for a weekday before running it around my house, and even then I'm feeling guilty after about 10min. I've been thinking of trying this out: http://www.hpisavageforum.com/forums...ad.php?t=13861
My exhaust isn't end bleed like this though, so I'm not sure how I'd do it.
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RE: This may go against the grain...
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So you're saying that if nitro offered the same driving experience as electric, you would still run the nitro because it is more difficult to operate? That may be your opinion, but I don't think it coincides with the mentality of most nitro burners.
I know I'm only speaking for myself, but I like things loud. Most of my hobbies involve sound levels well in excess of 100dB, so the noise of a screaming engine fits right in.
realism don't play it IMO
I like nitro cause its more fun than electric for the most part. I like challenges and which ones more challenging to get moving? plugging a battery into an ESC or trying to start up a nitro engine and getting it to move?
I like nitro cause its more fun than electric for the most part. I like challenges and which ones more challenging to get moving? plugging a battery into an ESC or trying to start up a nitro engine and getting it to move?
I know I'm only speaking for myself, but I like things loud. Most of my hobbies involve sound levels well in excess of 100dB, so the noise of a screaming engine fits right in.
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realism don't play it IMO
I like nitro cause its more fun than electric for the most part. I like challenges and which ones more challenging to get moving? plugging a battery into an ESC or trying to start up a nitro engine and getting it to move?
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This is not a good analogy at all.
Nitro engines are inherently loud, yes, so noise is usually taken for granted, but it is clearly part of the design criteria. We have ultra quiet brushless systems that outperform nitro engines, so why do we bother with our slower and less efficient fuel guzzlers? The answer is realism. People want something that sounds like a screaming engine. With the advent of new brushless technology, nitro would be obsolete if it didn't offer that experience. So yes, being loud is an intentional design aspect; it's largely what the concept of engine powered R/Cs is based on.
Here's an experiment you can try at home. Look over at your Savage, and visualize the pipe it came with. That's one big stinger, right? Think about how it killed your top end performance by providing insufficient backpressure. But damn, was it ever loud. Now why did HPI's engineers decide to use a super loud, performance killing 10mm stinger on their Savage tuned pipe? Hmm...
ORIGINAL: rclugnut10
they're not designed to be loud, thier design makes them inherently loud big differance, its like a F-16, the guy's with PHD's in areospace weren't like hey this is a great plane and you know what would make it even awsomer if we made it super loud, OMG YES!!!!!!!!!!, no, it was this is great, now how can we get the volume down for civilian comforts, call me OCD, but i'm just making this clearer so we don't get some kid quoting you saying, hey can i get a nitro designed to be quite then feeling all dumb, cuz someone links them to a BL system...
they're not designed to be loud, thier design makes them inherently loud big differance, its like a F-16, the guy's with PHD's in areospace weren't like hey this is a great plane and you know what would make it even awsomer if we made it super loud, OMG YES!!!!!!!!!!, no, it was this is great, now how can we get the volume down for civilian comforts, call me OCD, but i'm just making this clearer so we don't get some kid quoting you saying, hey can i get a nitro designed to be quite then feeling all dumb, cuz someone links them to a BL system...
Nitro engines are inherently loud, yes, so noise is usually taken for granted, but it is clearly part of the design criteria. We have ultra quiet brushless systems that outperform nitro engines, so why do we bother with our slower and less efficient fuel guzzlers? The answer is realism. People want something that sounds like a screaming engine. With the advent of new brushless technology, nitro would be obsolete if it didn't offer that experience. So yes, being loud is an intentional design aspect; it's largely what the concept of engine powered R/Cs is based on.
Here's an experiment you can try at home. Look over at your Savage, and visualize the pipe it came with. That's one big stinger, right? Think about how it killed your top end performance by providing insufficient backpressure. But damn, was it ever loud. Now why did HPI's engineers decide to use a super loud, performance killing 10mm stinger on their Savage tuned pipe? Hmm...
I like nitro cause its more fun than electric for the most part. I like challenges and which ones more challenging to get moving? plugging a battery into an ESC or trying to start up a nitro engine and getting it to move?
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I hwve also seen some pretty loud brushless sytems also. Those 70, 80, 90mph brushless cars and trucks are far from being quiet.
I hwve also seen some pretty loud brushless sytems also. Those 70, 80, 90mph brushless cars and trucks are far from being quiet.
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