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Old 12-11-2003, 09:22 AM
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I am going to build two more Sledges and thought I might share a few of the things I learned after building the first 6.
To me the wing has been the most time consuming here is what I do now.

1. Lay out your table with some 3/8 balsa blocks ( use the heavy pieces for this )
A little extra time spent in this area is time well spent make sure the blocks are straight and are pinned in firm ( no wiggle )
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Old 12-11-2003, 09:28 AM
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Bill, I thought I had that in the instructions to put something like that down on the table so you could pin the rib in position? Jeff W.
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After this just put a good straight edge on trailing edge throw your spar down and start lineing the the ribs up.
I like to use a set of 123 blocks to hold the ribs straight Total time of construction so far is 1 hour.
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Old 12-11-2003, 09:32 AM
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You do but I like to use 3/8 instead of the 1/4. Thats all
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Got ya, also I did not know there was going to be more to the post. You are the man on building this thing, I wish I had an arf, but maybe that would be bad for you LOL. I appreciate your offering of help/methods/suggestions to potential builders. Jeff W.
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Hey Bro, an ARF wont hurt me I'm just in for me now, takes to much time time away from flying, I plan on having two for myself.
After flying the Burrito for awhile I think I will be ready for Sledge expierience.
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I worked a trade with a Pro Bro, A Plane for a cover job Now I am a lucky man!!
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ORIGINAL: Bizzaro Bill

I worked a trade with a Pro Bro, A Plane for a cover job Now I am a lucky man!!

Holy cow...now the pressure is on, gotta do something you'll like....you dont like spiderman do you?
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Yeah I liked Spiderman but not for me I'm a simple man Checks and ripps kind of guy
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Nice work Bill... I've been using the heavy 3/8" blocks for the ribs to pin into as well..... I like your idea of using 123 blocks....

I tried the tri stock for the leading edge.... It was better.. but still not perfect.... So I took a piece of 3/8" balsa and cut a piece 1" wide with a 30 deg angle on both sides.... Worked perfect.... Super easy to sheet to and made a perfectly round leading edge....

I'll post some pics later...
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Thanks Paul, I'm going to try the 3/8 x 1" on the next wing.

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I am sure it works great Paul, but you know how the kit thing is. Get the best pre-made part you can and put it in there. Saves time and money so that is probably where it will stay for now.
I guess that means you are building one for Gator. What happened to Home Depot? Or are you like me, need a new one every summer? Jeff W.
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Home Depot is still flying, infact it charged and ready to go (since my Burrito is inop)...just need another sledge
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OK Bill And you guys after reading and seeing tons of stuff on the OMP or Morris Hobbies Edge 540 you have convinced me to build one my self. I am going to make it a X-mas gift to myself.

Bill if you can tell me what kit you bought? Morris or OMP. And I hope you keep working on the two airframes and share it with all of us your building skills and any mods . Keep the Pic and progress and I will order mine ASAP to catch up. SL (#429)
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Steve, I am building the Morris/Jeff Williams Sledge, I bought the short kit and ordered my wood from Lonestar,

Got the shear webs and Top sheeting done last night
it is very impertant to know the time!!
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HI Bill if I may ask How as the quality of the wood you got? and did it save you $ Or were you trying to get better balsa wood. And what did the short kit come with if I go that route . Thanks. SL
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Steve,
Lonestar is A #1 in my book great service and very nice Balsa, I went with the short kits because I was building 6 Sledges and was'nt going to use any hardware, One benifit of the short kit is you can buy 48" sheeting and do one wing with 2- 4x48" sheets instead of 4- 4x36" sheets, you can probably save a few ounces by hand picking the wood also. If I was going to build just 1 I would probably buy the kit. The short kit comes with...

1. All the laser cut balsa parts to do the wings, fuse, and vertical stab.
2. Laser cut plywood for the forward fuse and two hatch covers.
3. Hardwood for the motor mounts.
4. A set of rolled plans, a material list.

Call morris speak to Debbie and ask for the Pro Bro deal and give the secret handshake.
The handshake will work with the kit also.

I havent built the OMP but I understand it is very nice build also.

B Bill
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I ran a price check with Balsa USA using a material list from a post few months back. And it all came to $16.68 and & $ 7.95 for shipping not bad. I will look in to the larger 48'' sizes to save time. I built a Balsa Nova over the summer. And had to toss out 1/2 the wood. I have enough hardware and pull pull stuff to get going - I will have to make or order some landing gear. Thanks SL
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ORIGINAL: steve L-RCU

I will have to make or order some landing gear
Surprised I get to say this:: One word CRAZY LEGS!!!! OK, that's 2 words
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ORIGINAL: steve L-RCU

I will have to make or order some landing gear
Surprised I get to say this:: One word CRAZY LEGS!!!! OK, that's 2 words

Second that, but have a Crazy Leg question.

What are you guys using, regular crazy legs or heavy duty?

I've had both. I like the stiffness of the heavy duty's, but they definetly weigh more. Is it worth it IYO?
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ORIGINAL: TERMAGATOR

Home Depot is still flying, infact it charged and ready to go (since my Burrito is inop)...just need another sledge
Whats inoperable about that Burrito? I know your not still awaiting repairs from when Quique took a bite out it........I mean Key Key. I mean gee dude.....he only took a very little bite.....and quite frankly it was a little too spicy for his taste.
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ORIGINAL: Gordo-Outlaw

ORIGINAL: steve L-RCU

I will have to make or order some landing gear
Surprised I get to say this:: One word CRAZY LEGS!!!! OK, that's 2 words
Hmmmm....promoting Krazy Legs for a plane thats designed by the guy that distributes special Carbon Fiber gear for profiles.

Man Jeff.....thats harsh!!!
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ORIGINAL: tailspnr

Man....now your building a Jeff Williams Sledge right...and he sells the carbon fiber gear for profiles.....yet you are promoting the Krazy Legs for use on his plane. Dang Jeff....thats gotta hurt[X(]
LOL Well, at least it's not him writing the review.

I like the light Crazy legs. I had the heavy ones on my Knife but I don't see enough difference to warant the heavier ones. I guess I'm useing "regular"

But I will no longer promote them as "unbreakable" as I have now broke 2 of them. But the are way better than the AL, and from the posts I've read they don't break as easy as the CF. Oh, and for $7 per set of Crazy legs there is a pretty big price incentive!!!!!!
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You have to understand one thing, Gordo and myself are still learning the fine art of 3D and sometimes we hit the ground a little hard...For this the Krazy legs are a must also the Burrito... I can not wait to get a Sledge flying and I plan on putting CF gear on one of them... I know some of this stuff has been gone over before but I do have just a few things left to say...

1. After you get the top done be sure that when you flip the wing over to do the bottom that you support it as good and straight as you did the for the top.
Not the best pic but you can see the blocks under the main spar... I pin the whole wing back down and check it with a straight edge again before putting the sheeting on.
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