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best engine upgrade from .21?

Old 08-26-2006, 01:16 PM
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have a old savage .21 and was wondering what is the best egine to upgrade to the need no mod work, basically drop it in...i had nothing but problem with this truck so i figure i will try to rebuild this truck instead of it sitting and collecting dust.

is the picco 26 a drop in engine without no mod? i read there a picco 27..is this a good engine will it fit without re dedesigning and moving parts, this will be my first time basically rebuilding a truck, so guess i will be learnign as i go..but i do want nothing but the best products on it, so by the time its completed it will be a sweet truck for bashing..and i bash hard..
Old 08-26-2006, 02:46 PM
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Default RE: best engine upgrade from .21?

Both of those motors will drop right in. There is also a Picco .28, a few guys at my track have them and they rip. I run an STS .28 and it is no slug either. It also will drop right in and one can be had off of e-bay for about $120 shipped.
Old 08-26-2006, 02:47 PM
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Default RE: best engine upgrade from .21?

Have you taken any time to read the previous threads? This question has been hammered to death.
Old 08-26-2006, 02:48 PM
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hey gleebs.........STFU
Old 08-26-2006, 02:51 PM
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thanks revo eater for the info..its apreciated
Old 08-26-2006, 02:56 PM
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Default RE: best engine upgrade from .21?

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Default RE: best engine upgrade from .21?

word gleebs, I was thinkin the same thing...oops
Old 08-26-2006, 04:51 PM
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Tee Hee!
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Man that Savage was made when the HPI nitrostar.25 was an upgrade!....

Plenty of engines "drop right in", but they will ALL require some drivetrain mods on a Savage 21. Unless you have already upgraded, your truck still has the two spider diffs. Before you start whipping that thing around like these engines will allow you to do.... you need diff upgrades, steering upgrades, clutch upgrades, a better pipe and filter, the newer style primerless fuel tank,....
Old 08-26-2006, 10:00 PM
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Default RE: best engine upgrade from .21?

While gleebs is right on the engine subject being hammered to death, I would just like to point out that the RC world is changing rapidly and what would be the best engine today might not be so great tomorrow with the changing technology. Do the research, but it never hurts to ask the question.

I have been wondering the same thing about engines and have got alot of great info off here so far so good luck. My friend has a RB928 that he said has killer power, might wanna look at that one.
Old 08-27-2006, 01:36 AM
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Default RE: best engine upgrade from .21?

so far i love my STS.28 whellies all day long.
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Man that Savage was made when the HPI nitrostar.25 was an upgrade!....

Plenty of engines "drop right in", but they will ALL require some drivetrain mods on a Savage 21. Unless you have already upgraded, your truck still has the two spider diffs. Before you start whipping that thing around like these engines will allow you to do.... you need diff upgrades, steering upgrades, clutch upgrades, a better pipe and filter, the newer style primerless fuel tank,....
sounds like it be cheaper for me just to buy a brand new X ,,,the only thing i would lack the machanic skill in learnign to build a truck from scratch...but a new truck would probally have these upgrade already...hmmm
Old 08-27-2006, 09:42 AM
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Yeah, considering how much he would spend buying the new engine plus all the other parts for hardening, buyning a $400 RTR X is not that much more. If he does not want 2 trucks cluttering his hobby room, he could put his old Savage up for auction and recover some $$ from that.
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sounds like it be cheaper for me just to buy a brand new X ,,,the only thing i would lack the machanic skill in learnign to build a truck from scratch...but a new truck would probally have these upgrade already...hmmm
Well, it's not that bad. The most expensive thing I listed was the pipe, and other than the LE or SS, all of the Savages need a pipe upgrade. I was just trying to convey that your Savage in particular requires more mods to deal with an increase in power, and you can't base your upgrade list on that of someone who owns an SS or any of the newer models that already have the diff and steering upgrades.
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Default RE: best engine upgrade from .21?

haha go big

sh.28
picco .27
any .32

my highly HIGH recommendation would be a xtm 247 ... ignore the displacment and claimed w.e. HP that engine kicks alot of ass and i have 5 of those engines in all my vehicles and i have 2 sh.28 engines and both never had problems set aside a broken pullstart a million times but i love the 247.. very very reliable
Old 08-27-2006, 05:21 PM
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ORIGINAL: ludacris

haha go big

sh.28
picco .27
any .32

my highly HIGH recommendation would be a xtm 247 ... ignore the displacment and claimed w.e. HP that engine kicks alot of ass and i have 5 of those engines in all my vehicles and i have 2 sh.28 engines and both never had problems set aside a broken pullstart a million times but i love the 247.. very very reliable
is this the one u talking about? its on ebay brand new for buy now for 89.99

specs
New XTM MAMMOTH ST
24.7 2.6HP Racing Engine
With Glow Plug & Pull Starter
Air Filter, & Clutch Sold SeparatlyDisplacement............................. .....................4.02cc

Bore.............................................. .................17.5mm

Stroke............................................ ................16.75mm

Top RPM............................................... .........28,000

Power............................................. .................2.6HP

Weight............................................ .................15oz.

All items are Brand New.

* Pulled from a Brand NEW XTM MAMMOTH ST *


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Default RE: best engine upgrade from .21?

I would personally stick to the .28's. $89 is not a bad price but for another $30 you get so much more.
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the XTM .247 Pro is a great engine. it's impossible for me to say a bad thing about it
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so far i love my STS.28 whellies all day long.
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Old 08-29-2006, 11:49 PM
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i have the axial .32 morot, and i got it on ebay for 179 and that motor is scary fast i pass up some of these truggys on the track, thats the motor i reccomend i know people with the sts .28 ans the XTM but they all said they like mine the best

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