hbfp+esky 3in1+ar6100+dx7
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hbfp+esky 3in1+ar6100+dx7
not sure how many here have this setup, but i'm having issues getting my tail to act like it did with the stock 4in1. it might just be that i need to learn how to adjust the gain/proportional better, because my 4in1 was really pretty close right out of the box. i set my 3in1 pots to near the same positions (almost full gain, around 50% proportional) and have been tweaking slightly from there, but i'm still needing constant rudder to hold in place. i've tried trimming and subtrimming separately on the dx7, and they make the tail spin up earlier/faster at the start, but once i'm at hover the power seems reduced and i still have to hold rudder. also at times the tail will get real strong and throw me 90 degrees. just feels really uneven.
i had an extra tail motor, so i tried swapping, but same issue. also re-hooked my 4in1 and the tail is nice and steady. going to try hacking the 4in1 tonight just to try that gyro/esc with the ar6100.
for what its worth, i'm also seeing significant noise/signal bouncing (even with very low mic gain) via PCM thermometer while trying to set up smartpropo.
really frustrated that i got a nice tx and both heli and sim are unflyable so far. any recommendations or tips?
i had an extra tail motor, so i tried swapping, but same issue. also re-hooked my 4in1 and the tail is nice and steady. going to try hacking the 4in1 tonight just to try that gyro/esc with the ar6100.
for what its worth, i'm also seeing significant noise/signal bouncing (even with very low mic gain) via PCM thermometer while trying to set up smartpropo.
really frustrated that i got a nice tx and both heli and sim are unflyable so far. any recommendations or tips?
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Sounds like you really need to get the proportional right on the 3 in 1. No need to go backwards and use the 4 in 1, just keep adjusting the proportional pot on the 3 in 1. You are almost there, stay out of the radio subtrims and use the 3 in 1 for what it is designed to do. Keep it simple man..........keep it simple!
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Hey, just what are we doing here? I just smoked the 4 in 1 on my HBFP, and cant seem to find one cheap enough to justify fixing it. I took it apart and found a 6 ch receiver mated to a mixer board. It was the mixer that failed. it became obvious that I could have put my Futaba receiver on the mixer (before I smoked it) and flown it with all the advantages of my 7C. Is this what you are doing with the 2.4?
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RE: hbfp+esky 3in1+ar6100+dx7
arrow - thanks for the encouragement :P part of the issue was tracking my battery use when tweaking like this. I'd hover, adjust, hover, adjust and meanwhile the battery voltage was getting lower so i was adjusting to compensate for the low battery characteristics without realizing it.
i did get it tuned in well enough to fly after another night of tweaking. still not where it was with the stock setup, but getting there.
plane - i'm looking to buy a 450 size heli, and this was basically a way to break up the cost and get some value added on my hbfp. send me a pm if you're interested in buying the 4in1 i took off.
i did get it tuned in well enough to fly after another night of tweaking. still not where it was with the stock setup, but getting there.
plane - i'm looking to buy a 450 size heli, and this was basically a way to break up the cost and get some value added on my hbfp. send me a pm if you're interested in buying the 4in1 i took off.
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RE: hbfp+esky 3in1+ar6100+dx7
ORIGINAL: planepounder
Hey, just what are we doing here? I just smoked the 4 in 1 on my HBFP, and cant seem to find one cheap enough to justify fixing it. I took it apart and found a 6 ch receiver mated to a mixer board. It was the mixer that failed. it became obvious that I could have put my Futaba receiver on the mixer (before I smoked it) and flown it with all the advantages of my 7C. Is this what you are doing with the 2.4?
Hey, just what are we doing here? I just smoked the 4 in 1 on my HBFP, and cant seem to find one cheap enough to justify fixing it. I took it apart and found a 6 ch receiver mated to a mixer board. It was the mixer that failed. it became obvious that I could have put my Futaba receiver on the mixer (before I smoked it) and flown it with all the advantages of my 7C. Is this what you are doing with the 2.4?
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for what its worth, i'm also seeing significant noise/signal bouncing (even with very low mic gain) via PCM thermometer while trying to set up smartpropo.
really frustrated that i got a nice tx and both heli and sim are unflyable so far. any recommendations or tips?
for what its worth, i'm also seeing significant noise/signal bouncing (even with very low mic gain) via PCM thermometer while trying to set up smartpropo.
really frustrated that i got a nice tx and both heli and sim are unflyable so far. any recommendations or tips?
Just got an Esky USB controller and the signal is rock solid. I suddenly have improved 10% in my hovering abilities because I'm not fighting against a varying input from SPP. What concerns me is if this is the signal sent to the helicopter itself how can I ever get a good hover?
Also, what settings are you using on your DX7? I'm thinking about pulling the AR6100 from my CX2 and installing it on my HBFP but don't want to spring for a 3-in-1 if it's going to be a headache like you're seeing.
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hbfp+esky 3in1+ar6100+dx7
i tried for over a week to adjust mine out....i just gave up ! threw the stock electronics back in it...and enjoy it
i tried for over a week to adjust mine out....i just gave up ! threw the stock electronics back in it...and enjoy it
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RE: hbfp+esky 3in1+ar6100+dx7
ORIGINAL: bassplayinDude
Just got an Esky USB controller and the signal is rock solid. I suddenly have improved 10% in my hovering abilities because I'm not fighting against a varying input from SPP. What concerns me is if this is the signal sent to the helicopter itself how can I ever get a good hover?
Just got an Esky USB controller and the signal is rock solid. I suddenly have improved 10% in my hovering abilities because I'm not fighting against a varying input from SPP. What concerns me is if this is the signal sent to the helicopter itself how can I ever get a good hover?
and i finally have the 3in1/ar6100 working well! was a pita getting gyro gain and prop right, but finally dialed in. don't give up KC