savage 21 with 3 speed
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savage 21 with 3 speed
hi everyone, i have the older savage 21 and was wondering if i can buy the upgrade 3-speed for it. i noticed on ebay that the pictures of the assembled 3 speed has 3 rubber plugs to change the shift points. when i buy the kit will it come with that half of the trans? or is there no way to adjust one of the gears? im kinda confused. thanks
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RE: savage 21 with 3 speed
It is kind of confusing. I had the old style transmission, but did not kit it. I did kit the newer one. You can only adjust 2-3 through the plugs. The 1-2 shift is adjusted by taking the transmission and top gear cluster apart. It is much easier to remove just the top half in the newer style case. I think you can use the old case, but you have to tear the truck down to adjust 1-2 shift point. Bud
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The kit version only comes with the gears that you install into your existing trans. The "RTR" version comes assembled and includes the case. Either will work with your Savage. If you buy the kit, also buy the X style trans case BudBud mentioned....the two piece design is real nice. I think all of the 3sp assembled versions come with the 2 piece case now.
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RE: savage 21 with 3 speed
ok, so i know this 3 speed will work, but is it the new case you talk of? http://www.rcplanet.com/ProductDetai...7218&CartID=10
oh and does it have the 3 holes on the side for adjustment? thanks
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oh and does it have the 3 holes on the side for adjustment? thanks
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also, when i upgrade to the 3sp, do i have to change to a different spur gear? the gear that "gears" with the clutch bell. i currently have a 48T metal one. thanks again
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RE: savage 21 with 3 speed
It is the new case....[link=http://www.hpieurope.com/piw.php?lang=en&partNo=87257]87257[/link]... [link=http://www.hpieurope.com/piw.php?lang=en&partNo=87218]87218[/link] one of them comes with the overdriven third gear which is kind of cool. You can gear down a little for rocket launching and still get the top speed. It is the one that you are looking at that has the higher gear, according to the Hpi site. Bud
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so i mean which one is better? whats the point of being able to open the top of the tranny? can you get to everything in there if it breaks or something?
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RE: savage 21 with 3 speed
I see that Hpi has discontinued the 87218, I wonder if it was because of this problem my Picco and I have been having...
To answer your question, they both have the removeable case top.
To answer your question, they both have the removeable case top.
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so i mean which one is better? whats the point of being able to open the top of the tranny? can you get to everything in there if it breaks or something?
so i mean which one is better? whats the point of being able to open the top of the tranny? can you get to everything in there if it breaks or something?
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also, when i upgrade to the 3sp, do i have to change to a different spur gear? the gear that "gears" with the clutch bell. i currently have a 48T metal one. thanks again
phil
also, when i upgrade to the 3sp, do i have to change to a different spur gear? the gear that "gears" with the clutch bell. i currently have a 48T metal one. thanks again
phil
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RE: savage 21 with 3 speed
If he has a 48, a 49 would be a lower gear or more power or slower top end. If you were talking about the clutch bell, more teeth would be less power and more top end, until you pass the engine's capacity to pull the load.
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hmm ok. lol, this is all new to me, as you can probably tell. i have a 16T clutch bell and a 48T spur. oh and i have upgraded the engine to a .28 axial.
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If he has a 48, a 49 would be a lower gear or more power or slower top end. If you were talking about the clutch bell, more teeth would be less power and more top end, until you pass the engine's capacity to pull the load.
If he has a 48, a 49 would be a lower gear or more power or slower top end. If you were talking about the clutch bell, more teeth would be less power and more top end, until you pass the engine's capacity to pull the load.
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hmm ok. lol, this is all new to me, as you can probably tell. i have a 16T clutch bell and a 48T spur. oh and i have upgraded the engine to a .28 axial.
hmm ok. lol, this is all new to me, as you can probably tell. i have a 16T clutch bell and a 48T spur. oh and i have upgraded the engine to a .28 axial.
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We should get a RCU meet and greet going. It'd be cool to bash with the trucks I see online and meet their owners. Finding a central location would be tough because we are all so spread out. Maybe if the idea gets tossed around, it will turn into something...............[8D]
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RE: savage 21 with 3 speed
I have a six day weekend in the middle of October. My wife has never been to Wisconsin during the fall, it is really something to see. We had planned to go to the Rockies, maybe I can steer her east instead of west.....