BotleRocketWar

What is the definition of a FunFly anyway? Everyone decided Morris Hobbies profiles are, while Somethin' Extra's and Dazzlers are not. Flip 3D and UCD are not? They do everything my Sledge does?

What's a FunFly?

tailspnr

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See, there you go. Would somebody please come up with a term for our small 3D type planes....or artistic planes as Chuck calls them.

Botlerocketwar, we have been using the term Fun-Fly to describe the type of planes that fly similar to the profiles such as the U-Can-Do's and Flip's. But technically a Fun-Fly is as Chuck said, a competition type plane like the Menace or Stick-it, and they truly deserve their own forum.

I think we should call the forum "Profile and 3D type planes". And we still leave the 3D sub catagory under the giant scale for the large scale 3d'ers. The bottom line is that the profiles and Flip types that we fly are doing mostly 3D just on a smaller scale. Or maybe we name it "Profiles and Small 3D Planes" so as not to confuse with the giant scale 3-D'ers.

Again.....just another $.16 worth.

SMALLFLY-

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OK here we go again. define what is a profile. is a 2" wide sukoi a profile, is my 3" wide ecstasy a profile. Why dont we make categories for the width of the fuse so we know how "profile it is"
Keeping it all fun fly is exactly what make sense to me

Scott Crownover

The Comp funfly planes, mnanuevers , and events would be alot easier to find if they were given a seoparate forum. That might contribute to growth in that area of the sport. I'm for it.


Profile planes evolving from the Hots and other fun flys? There is an undeniable connection. But, I think the Ukie guys deserve a little bit more of the credit than that. Yes, modern profile designers adapted alot of technical solutions from fun flyers like built up fuse, enlarged surfaces, and thick airfoils. But the motor mounts, wing attachment, and landing gear look like a Ringmaster or similar U/C. I think the profile philosophy is clearly derived from U/C profile scale.

fadmuker

IF IT AINT BROKE THEN LEAVE IT ALONE!
NEEDLE TWIDDLERS OF THE WORLD UNITE

tailspnr

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Smallfly, Profiles are not the type of planes that are in question here. I am looking at giving the "Fun-Fly" catagory back to the rightful owners. Those are the ones that truly deserve to have there own catagory without having to dig through our stuff.

While there may be several Fun-Flyers that participate in our profile type of flying, the fun-fly catagory in itself as it pertains to actual REAL Fun-Fly's is truly a seperate type of flying that in my opinion deserves it's own catagory.

Bottom line........a fun-fly as much as we like to think of it as a Flip or UCD type plane is not truly a Fun-Fly. Therefore we simply need to catagorize our planes in a different manner so as to give back the "fun-fly" catagory to the real "fun-flyers".

It's really not that difficult once you understand.

I mean really.....who are we to think that we can claim the term Fun-Fly for our own use when it has been around everybit as long as profiles if not longer.

pinball-RCU

You might as well piss in the wind as try to influence the course of the English language. No proclamation here is going to have the slightest effect on how people use a term. The language is full of terms that have been appropriated by folks that other folks call ignorant (don't get me started on "to beg the question"). (I thought "fun fly" was an event where they did fun contests like dropping donuts!)

The best bet would be to invent a new term for what you think is the true meaning of "fun fly". That might be successful, since the people in the know care, and could be influenced.

funflysteve

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I do belive that the Funfly competition planes should have there own catagory here in RCU. I personally would visit this website more if that were the case . Not that i wouldnt visit the profile plane stuff some too but it would be much handier to have the two sites seperate. Just my 2 cents. Steve

ChuckAuger

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Thanks, Steve. I was hoping some of the Comp guys would chime in.

And BTW..This poll wasn't my idea. I had said before a couple of times that I though a split was a good idea for just the reasons Steve gave, but I didn't instigate this poll.

Steve, any idea when the FF Nats scores will be posted? I looked yesterday and didn't see them.

Tigman

Brothers,

Don't want to bore you with details...but in 1994 I saw the first introduction into profile funfly at the Bigun Funfly in Huntsville, Alabama. It was a Sig Fazer with an HP40 gold cup. Needless to say, he didn't bring home any trophies but he did do an awesome job at the competition. Since then the Profile world has gone to most extreme measures and I suppose you probably should separate the two. Again, it is a hard subject as I have seen in your posts. My two cents worth is to make it (radical) profile flying or something in that nature. Between competition funfly and 3D manuevers it is too close to compare.

Azarr

I think the inclusion of a separate Comp Fun Fly forum would increase knowlege in both catagories. Comp Fun Fly really has little in common with profile or 3D (even though there is a "profile" class - most of the planes flown are stick/boom with as little structure as possible added to create the fuselage)

Two new records were set this weekend at the NCFFA Nationals in Eutawville SC. 10 loop touch & go's (timed from plane moving to touch down on loop 10) in 12.54 seconds.

Not to add real confusion to the mix, but at our semiannual NCFFA meeting at the same event it was voted in to add a one design "Magic" class to see if that might boost participation

More information should be on the NCFFA Web site before long.

TailTwister

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I like them together, and I'll tell you why.

I usually look at the 3D, ARF, and Fun Fly/Profile forums. Many of the planes I like have been posted in all three. For example I just got a FuntanaS 40. I found info in all three forums. I do not believe that the forums should necessarily be "together", but I just do not want to end up browsing more forums for information on the same kind of planes. Now I'm also looking into the pattern forum because I'm looking at buying one of the "hybrid planes" like a Seduction or Widebody.

Maybe I'm just being lazy.

Maybe Marc could just set up a forum for "Stuff Frank Likes", and all content I'd be interested in would magically appear in it?

How hard could that be?

ceandra

Thanks, Azarr, for giving a prelim results.

I am responsible for the (lack of) results on the NCFFA page. I have been concentrating on getting the domain names moved to our control and recovering from the NATS.

I will try to get stuff posted this week. Need photos, my Olympus was in the shop.

One thing Azarr did not mention is that a PBF made a very respectable sub-20-second run for 10 touch-and-goes! There is some cross-fertilization on this site.

However, while I enjoy the variety of posts, I too have given up posting much Comp Fun Fly stuff here, because it gets lost in the volume.

While we have a second class of events that caters to planes with a "profile" rather than a stick, most of you prefer the hot show-off at a fly-in over contests. I would love to see a forum that concentrates on the comp portion, but that is just whats in my blood.

Thanks to Azarr (ecubedrc) and Jeff Gilbert (DiamondDustRC) for their fine support of the Nationals this year.

Next year, we will be in Muncie combined with the AMA Nats. Bring your profiles and play with us!

Goinstraightup

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I would not mind a separate thread for Competition Fun Fly type planes.

I would like to see the profile discussions continue to include the flip / magic type planes and the SPA3D and other coro type planes on occasion as we're all flying in a similar manner.

The profile brotherhood is a great source for only profiles. There is still some discussion about other planes than profiles there (the Funtana was just heavily discussed) which I enjoy.

splais

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do not separate them! Mosts profiles are just another kind of funfly. Whats the point. If you won't do a Bipe Forum, why do a Profile forum.

wind junkie

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I agree with Chuck.

We have the tools to easily view all the subject folders we like. As it is, I sometimes forget which folder I'm looking in anyway (3D, funfly, etc).

A separate new folder would be largely transparent to the guys who like all the topics together, but will mean a world of difference to the competition guys who don't want to weed out the rest of the stuff.

Cross pollenation is a wonderful thing -- unless you don't want hybrids! I think we need to respect the wishes of the purebreeds here.

hroachen

Why not just add a Competition Fun Fly forum and leave this one as is? The guys interested in Competition Fun Fly would know to look there, and it wouldn't affect anyone else.

Most of my flying is not geared toward competition fun fly, but I'm interested and would find it much more convenient if I could read about the subject in its own forum.

D