Which one to review?
06-13-2012, 09:42 PM
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RE: Which one to review?
ORIGINAL: thehuntingterminator
Well guys I went with the Savage XS SS kit. The RTR had been pretty controversial, but I've heard virtually nothing about the kit, so I went with it. For electronics I am going with a HW 60a ESC, 540 4 pole motor (not sure which one, but around 3000kv), Traxxas 2056 servo (had it in spare parts bin), and HK 3s 3600mah lipo for a battery. The thing should be crazy powerful and a whole lot of fun, not to mention how cool it's gonna look. I am teaming up with RPM to do an RPM based paint scheme, so it should look pretty sick! There will be a ten part build series of the kit, an unboxing of it at first, a review, a pros and cons video, a setup video, and an unboxing and review for each of the electronics (beside servo since used). It's going to make for a really fun and insanely capable kit, so be sure to follow us at modelkits! I haven't mentioned this yet but I will be getting an Axial XR10 at the end of July which will likely be done like the Savage, with content and all. The site is getting big quickly guys, so be sure to check it out. Let me know if anyone would be interested in writing for it or has any questions.
Well guys I went with the Savage XS SS kit. The RTR had been pretty controversial, but I've heard virtually nothing about the kit, so I went with it. For electronics I am going with a HW 60a ESC, 540 4 pole motor (not sure which one, but around 3000kv), Traxxas 2056 servo (had it in spare parts bin), and HK 3s 3600mah lipo for a battery. The thing should be crazy powerful and a whole lot of fun, not to mention how cool it's gonna look. I am teaming up with RPM to do an RPM based paint scheme, so it should look pretty sick! There will be a ten part build series of the kit, an unboxing of it at first, a review, a pros and cons video, a setup video, and an unboxing and review for each of the electronics (beside servo since used). It's going to make for a really fun and insanely capable kit, so be sure to follow us at modelkits! I haven't mentioned this yet but I will be getting an Axial XR10 at the end of July which will likely be done like the Savage, with content and all. The site is getting big quickly guys, so be sure to check it out. Let me know if anyone would be interested in writing for it or has any questions.
06-14-2012, 06:50 AM
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RE: Which one to review?
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Well it will be interesting seeing it tested at 3s as the stock rtr has issues with 3s. But I see your point is the hw any better than the stock esc?
Well it will be interesting seeing it tested at 3s as the stock rtr has issues with 3s. But I see your point is the hw any better than the stock esc?
but yea might have to go up to an 80A for the ESC seeing the 4 pole motor is seen by ESC's as one 2X higher from what I read like the 3000kv 4pole would be seen as a 6000 to the ESC, and pull similar power. That would probably be fine on the 60A with 2S but not sure how it would work with 3S.
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Well, I'm going to be reviewing the ESC in addition to using it on the Savage build, so we'll find out here shortly. But I do have to disagree with y'all about it holding up. HobbyWing ESCs are tough in my experience. Picture this: I ran a HW 25a ESC (everyone said that it would catch fire very quickly) paired with a EZrun 9t motor and it worked/works fine. The best part is that the ESC has a rated limit of a 12t, and the motor I run is a 9t. Plus, I've run it repeatedly on 3s, and it never gets over 130 degrees. Trust me, 60a will be plenty. The stock SideWinder had problems because it was only a 45a, but I think the additional 15a will make a big difference. Plus, I'll probably gear it a little low.
On another note, I have not had a chance to test that $10 ESC for you yet, Syco Venom. Sorry bout that, but it will be done sooner or later (now I've got this Savage build on my plate, so probably later). It will be done by the end of the summer, though, because I plan to use it on my XR10 build. I would test it today if I could, but I'm about 450 miles away from any of my RCs at this point, so yeah...
On another note, I have not had a chance to test that $10 ESC for you yet, Syco Venom. Sorry bout that, but it will be done sooner or later (now I've got this Savage build on my plate, so probably later). It will be done by the end of the summer, though, because I plan to use it on my XR10 build. I would test it today if I could, but I'm about 450 miles away from any of my RCs at this point, so yeah...
ORIGINAL: phmaximus
Might be woth looking for a better ESC dont think it will cut it for a 4poll 540 size motor on 3s.... my 2c worth
ORIGINAL: thehuntingterminator
Well guys I went with the Savage XS SS kit. The RTR had been pretty controversial, but I've heard virtually nothing about the kit, so I went with it. For electronics I am going with a HW 60a ESC, 540 4 pole motor (not sure which one, but around 3000kv), Traxxas 2056 servo (had it in spare parts bin), and HK 3s 3600mah lipo for a battery. The thing should be crazy powerful and a whole lot of fun, not to mention how cool it's gonna look. I am teaming up with RPM to do an RPM based paint scheme, so it should look pretty sick! There will be a ten part build series of the kit, an unboxing of it at first, a review, a pros and cons video, a setup video, and an unboxing and review for each of the electronics (beside servo since used). It's going to make for a really fun and insanely capable kit, so be sure to follow us at modelkits! I haven't mentioned this yet but I will be getting an Axial XR10 at the end of July which will likely be done like the Savage, with content and all. The site is getting big quickly guys, so be sure to check it out. Let me know if anyone would be interested in writing for it or has any questions.
Well guys I went with the Savage XS SS kit. The RTR had been pretty controversial, but I've heard virtually nothing about the kit, so I went with it. For electronics I am going with a HW 60a ESC, 540 4 pole motor (not sure which one, but around 3000kv), Traxxas 2056 servo (had it in spare parts bin), and HK 3s 3600mah lipo for a battery. The thing should be crazy powerful and a whole lot of fun, not to mention how cool it's gonna look. I am teaming up with RPM to do an RPM based paint scheme, so it should look pretty sick! There will be a ten part build series of the kit, an unboxing of it at first, a review, a pros and cons video, a setup video, and an unboxing and review for each of the electronics (beside servo since used). It's going to make for a really fun and insanely capable kit, so be sure to follow us at modelkits! I haven't mentioned this yet but I will be getting an Axial XR10 at the end of July which will likely be done like the Savage, with content and all. The site is getting big quickly guys, so be sure to check it out. Let me know if anyone would be interested in writing for it or has any questions.
06-14-2012, 11:00 AM
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Well, I'm going to be reviewing the ESC in addition to using it on the Savage build, so we'll find out here shortly. But I do have to disagree with y'all about it holding up. HobbyWing ESCs are tough in my experience. Picture this: I ran a HW 25a ESC (everyone said that it would catch fire very quickly) paired with a EZrun 9t motor and it worked/works fine. The best part is that the ESC has a rated limit of a 12t, and the motor I run is a 9t. Plus, I've run it repeatedly on 3s, and it never gets over 130 degrees. Trust me, 60a will be plenty. The stock SideWinder had problems because it was only a 45a, but I think the additional 15a will make a big difference. Plus, I'll probably gear it a little low.
On another note, I have not had a chance to test that $10 ESC for you yet, Syco Venom. Sorry bout that, but it will be done sooner or later (now I've got this Savage build on my plate, so probably later). It will be done by the end of the summer, though, because I plan to use it on my XR10 build. I would test it today if I could, but I'm about 450 miles away from any of my RCs at this point, so yeah...
Well, I'm going to be reviewing the ESC in addition to using it on the Savage build, so we'll find out here shortly. But I do have to disagree with y'all about it holding up. HobbyWing ESCs are tough in my experience. Picture this: I ran a HW 25a ESC (everyone said that it would catch fire very quickly) paired with a EZrun 9t motor and it worked/works fine. The best part is that the ESC has a rated limit of a 12t, and the motor I run is a 9t. Plus, I've run it repeatedly on 3s, and it never gets over 130 degrees. Trust me, 60a will be plenty. The stock SideWinder had problems because it was only a 45a, but I think the additional 15a will make a big difference. Plus, I'll probably gear it a little low.
On another note, I have not had a chance to test that $10 ESC for you yet, Syco Venom. Sorry bout that, but it will be done sooner or later (now I've got this Savage build on my plate, so probably later). It will be done by the end of the summer, though, because I plan to use it on my XR10 build. I would test it today if I could, but I'm about 450 miles away from any of my RCs at this point, so yeah...
ORIGINAL: phmaximus
Might be woth looking for a better ESC dont think it will cut it for a 4poll 540 size motor on 3s.... my 2c worth
ORIGINAL: thehuntingterminator
Well guys I went with the Savage XS SS kit. The RTR had been pretty controversial, but I've heard virtually nothing about the kit, so I went with it. For electronics I am going with a HW 60a ESC, 540 4 pole motor (not sure which one, but around 3000kv), Traxxas 2056 servo (had it in spare parts bin), and HK 3s 3600mah lipo for a battery. The thing should be crazy powerful and a whole lot of fun, not to mention how cool it's gonna look. I am teaming up with RPM to do an RPM based paint scheme, so it should look pretty sick! There will be a ten part build series of the kit, an unboxing of it at first, a review, a pros and cons video, a setup video, and an unboxing and review for each of the electronics (beside servo since used). It's going to make for a really fun and insanely capable kit, so be sure to follow us at modelkits! I haven't mentioned this yet but I will be getting an Axial XR10 at the end of July which will likely be done like the Savage, with content and all. The site is getting big quickly guys, so be sure to check it out. Let me know if anyone would be interested in writing for it or has any questions.
Well guys I went with the Savage XS SS kit. The RTR had been pretty controversial, but I've heard virtually nothing about the kit, so I went with it. For electronics I am going with a HW 60a ESC, 540 4 pole motor (not sure which one, but around 3000kv), Traxxas 2056 servo (had it in spare parts bin), and HK 3s 3600mah lipo for a battery. The thing should be crazy powerful and a whole lot of fun, not to mention how cool it's gonna look. I am teaming up with RPM to do an RPM based paint scheme, so it should look pretty sick! There will be a ten part build series of the kit, an unboxing of it at first, a review, a pros and cons video, a setup video, and an unboxing and review for each of the electronics (beside servo since used). It's going to make for a really fun and insanely capable kit, so be sure to follow us at modelkits! I haven't mentioned this yet but I will be getting an Axial XR10 at the end of July which will likely be done like the Savage, with content and all. The site is getting big quickly guys, so be sure to check it out. Let me know if anyone would be interested in writing for it or has any questions.
Also kinda forgot about the $10 ESC lol thanks for reminding me
06-14-2012, 03:21 PM
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RE: Which one to review?
ORIGINAL: thehuntingterminator
Well, I'm going to be reviewing the ESC in addition to using it on the Savage build, so we'll find out here shortly. But I do have to disagree with y'all about it holding up. HobbyWing ESCs are tough in my experience. Picture this: I ran a HW 25a ESC (everyone said that it would catch fire very quickly) paired with a EZrun 9t motor and it worked/works fine. The best part is that the ESC has a rated limit of a 12t, and the motor I run is a 9t. Plus, I've run it repeatedly on 3s, and it never gets over 130 degrees. Trust me, 60a will be plenty. The stock SideWinder had problems because it was only a 45a, but I think the additional 15a will make a big difference. Plus, I'll probably gear it a little low.
On another note, I have not had a chance to test that $10 ESC for you yet, Syco Venom. Sorry bout that, but it will be done sooner or later (now I've got this Savage build on my plate, so probably later). It will be done by the end of the summer, though, because I plan to use it on my XR10 build. I would test it today if I could, but I'm about 450 miles away from any of my RCs at this point, so yeah...
Well, I'm going to be reviewing the ESC in addition to using it on the Savage build, so we'll find out here shortly. But I do have to disagree with y'all about it holding up. HobbyWing ESCs are tough in my experience. Picture this: I ran a HW 25a ESC (everyone said that it would catch fire very quickly) paired with a EZrun 9t motor and it worked/works fine. The best part is that the ESC has a rated limit of a 12t, and the motor I run is a 9t. Plus, I've run it repeatedly on 3s, and it never gets over 130 degrees. Trust me, 60a will be plenty. The stock SideWinder had problems because it was only a 45a, but I think the additional 15a will make a big difference. Plus, I'll probably gear it a little low.
On another note, I have not had a chance to test that $10 ESC for you yet, Syco Venom. Sorry bout that, but it will be done sooner or later (now I've got this Savage build on my plate, so probably later). It will be done by the end of the summer, though, because I plan to use it on my XR10 build. I would test it today if I could, but I'm about 450 miles away from any of my RCs at this point, so yeah...
People on this forum have been over heating the 35a ESC on there 4x4 slashes, and now the norm is to run a 60a ESC, now that's only with a 380 cored motor...
From what ive been reading a 380 core brushless motor is comparable to a Tamiya brushed black can motor....
So I'm assuming u are planing to run a 4 poll motor so it can be over geared right? A over geared savage would have to pul some serious amps with its high grip 4x4 and tyres
Im guessing it will be geared lower than the RTR so it will have the same speed?
In short I don't think u will be able to get a mentall setup with out heat issues, maby a conservative set will be ok
06-14-2012, 03:30 PM
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wow sidewinders are 45Amps if they have a fan, and 35 without... The HW ESC's normal rating are almost the same as the CC's burst [X(]
here's a list I found of the majority of CC ESC's and currant ratings
http://www.castlespecialprojects.com...ntrollers.html
it doesn't have the SV2 which people suspect is around 55-60A
here's a list I found of the majority of CC ESC's and currant ratings
http://www.castlespecialprojects.com...ntrollers.html
it doesn't have the SV2 which people suspect is around 55-60A
06-14-2012, 08:16 PM
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Told ya. This is the exact reason why I have yet to touch a Castle product in the 3-4 years that I've been into hobby grade RC. Very expensive and in some cases (as in this one with the ESCs) the cheaper stuff is just as good, and a much better value. Sure, I would like to have one of Castle's 4 poles, but I just don't have that kind of cash lying around. See, the SV2 handles Castle's 3800kv 4 pole, and is roughly 60a, I figure my HW 60a can handle the motor I picked out. I will be running a HW 60a ESC with a GForce 2800kv 4 pole, which shouldn't be quite as big of drain since it's a lower kv. Running that combo on 3s should get me some insane power. I'm hoping for standing backflips, but that's a lot to ask for. Anyone have an ideas on gearing?
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wow sidewinders are 45Amps if they have a fan, and 35 without... The HW ESC's normal rating are almost the same as the CC's burst [X(]
here's a list I found of the majority of CC ESC's and currant ratings
http://www.castlespecialprojects.com...ntrollers.html
it doesn't have the SV2 which people suspect is around 55-60A
wow sidewinders are 45Amps if they have a fan, and 35 without... The HW ESC's normal rating are almost the same as the CC's burst [X(]
here's a list I found of the majority of CC ESC's and currant ratings
http://www.castlespecialprojects.com...ntrollers.html
it doesn't have the SV2 which people suspect is around 55-60A
06-14-2012, 08:38 PM
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Told ya. This is the exact reason why I have yet to touch a Castle product in the 3-4 years that I've been into hobby grade RC. Very expensive and in some cases (as in this one with the ESCs) the cheaper stuff is just as good, and a much better value. Sure, I would like to have one of Castle's 4 poles, but I just don't have that kind of cash lying around. See, the SV2 handles Castle's 3800kv 4 pole, and is roughly 60a, I figure my HW 60a can handle the motor I picked out. I will be running a HW 60a ESC with a GForce 2800kv 4 pole, which shouldn't be quite as big of drain since it's a lower kv. Running that combo on 3s should get me some insane power. I'm hoping for standing backflips, but that's a lot to ask for. Anyone have an ideas on gearing?
Told ya. This is the exact reason why I have yet to touch a Castle product in the 3-4 years that I've been into hobby grade RC. Very expensive and in some cases (as in this one with the ESCs) the cheaper stuff is just as good, and a much better value. Sure, I would like to have one of Castle's 4 poles, but I just don't have that kind of cash lying around. See, the SV2 handles Castle's 3800kv 4 pole, and is roughly 60a, I figure my HW 60a can handle the motor I picked out. I will be running a HW 60a ESC with a GForce 2800kv 4 pole, which shouldn't be quite as big of drain since it's a lower kv. Running that combo on 3s should get me some insane power. I'm hoping for standing backflips, but that's a lot to ask for. Anyone have an ideas on gearing?
ORIGINAL: SyCo_VeNoM
wow sidewinders are 45Amps if they have a fan, and 35 without... The HW ESC's normal rating are almost the same as the CC's burst [X(]
here's a list I found of the majority of CC ESC's and currant ratings
http://www.castlespecialprojects.com...ntrollers.html
it doesn't have the SV2 which people suspect is around 55-60A
wow sidewinders are 45Amps if they have a fan, and 35 without... The HW ESC's normal rating are almost the same as the CC's burst [X(]
here's a list I found of the majority of CC ESC's and currant ratings
http://www.castlespecialprojects.com...ntrollers.html
it doesn't have the SV2 which people suspect is around 55-60A
Castle says the SV2 is 40% more powerful than the sidewinder... thing is they don't say if its the one with or without the fan so it could be anywhere from 49A's to 63A's... That's if they are telling the truth which honestly IMO castle isn't good for due to how they obscure their ESC ratings.
06-14-2012, 08:42 PM
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Yep. Everyone says that it's stupid of me to waste my cash on Chinese stuff, but heck, if it works and is inexpensive, who cares where it's made! I am dying to get back to my RCs, which won't be until Sunday evening, and even then I've got other stuff to do before the week starts. My Savage should be here Monday, though, so it'll be ok I guess 
ORIGINAL: SyCo_VeNoM
I own a MM and honestly I didn't see what everyone loved about them. Actually I hated mine and regretted it till I threw it in my truggy(actually bought the truggy for it so I wouldn't feel like I wasted cash).
Castle says the SV2 is 40% more powerful than the sidewinder... thing is they don't say if its the one with or without the fan so it could be anywhere from 49A's to 63A's... That's if they are telling the truth which honestly IMO castle isn't good for due to how they obscure their ESC ratings.
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Told ya. This is the exact reason why I have yet to touch a Castle product in the 3-4 years that I've been into hobby grade RC. Very expensive and in some cases (as in this one with the ESCs) the cheaper stuff is just as good, and a much better value. Sure, I would like to have one of Castle's 4 poles, but I just don't have that kind of cash lying around. See, the SV2 handles Castle's 3800kv 4 pole, and is roughly 60a, I figure my HW 60a can handle the motor I picked out. I will be running a HW 60a ESC with a GForce 2800kv 4 pole, which shouldn't be quite as big of drain since it's a lower kv. Running that combo on 3s should get me some insane power. I'm hoping for standing backflips, but that's a lot to ask for. Anyone have an ideas on gearing?
Told ya. This is the exact reason why I have yet to touch a Castle product in the 3-4 years that I've been into hobby grade RC. Very expensive and in some cases (as in this one with the ESCs) the cheaper stuff is just as good, and a much better value. Sure, I would like to have one of Castle's 4 poles, but I just don't have that kind of cash lying around. See, the SV2 handles Castle's 3800kv 4 pole, and is roughly 60a, I figure my HW 60a can handle the motor I picked out. I will be running a HW 60a ESC with a GForce 2800kv 4 pole, which shouldn't be quite as big of drain since it's a lower kv. Running that combo on 3s should get me some insane power. I'm hoping for standing backflips, but that's a lot to ask for. Anyone have an ideas on gearing?
ORIGINAL: SyCo_VeNoM
wow sidewinders are 45Amps if they have a fan, and 35 without... The HW ESC's normal rating are almost the same as the CC's burst [X(]
here's a list I found of the majority of CC ESC's and currant ratings
http://www.castlespecialprojects.com...ntrollers.html
it doesn't have the SV2 which people suspect is around 55-60A
wow sidewinders are 45Amps if they have a fan, and 35 without... The HW ESC's normal rating are almost the same as the CC's burst [X(]
here's a list I found of the majority of CC ESC's and currant ratings
http://www.castlespecialprojects.com...ntrollers.html
it doesn't have the SV2 which people suspect is around 55-60A
Castle says the SV2 is 40% more powerful than the sidewinder... thing is they don't say if its the one with or without the fan so it could be anywhere from 49A's to 63A's... That's if they are telling the truth which honestly IMO castle isn't good for due to how they obscure their ESC ratings.
06-14-2012, 08:51 PM
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Haha, well I have nothing to do right now anyways so I figured I spend a little time on here. Hey I have an ECX Boost in great condition that I simply got to review. It has under 10 runs and I have everything that came new in box (inlcuding the box!). I know that you had been in touch with a lot of people who are new to the hobby, and this is perfect for them, so I thought I'd let you know. I'm asking $55 with DC quick charger. Are you interested?
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damn you read that fast I went back and added a bit more
What happens when I'm half asleep I forgot to type half of what I wanted [:@]
damn you read that fast I went back and added a bit more
What happens when I'm half asleep I forgot to type half of what I wanted [:@]
