MVVS 80 ccm
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RE: MVVS 80 ccm
Pilots,
I am flying 2nd seoson with MVVS 80 ccm and I have to say it is realy very good engine.
I would like to know others pilots with this engine.
Thanks for reply.
I am flying 2nd seoson with MVVS 80 ccm and I have to say it is realy very good engine.
I would like to know others pilots with this engine.
Thanks for reply.
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RE: MVVS 80 ccm
I think there is not yet much flying done with the engine. I sold a handful, but received no reports yet except that they are powerhouses. But we knew that already.
Here are prop/rpm data I collected:
<table bgcolor="#ffffff" cellspacing="0" border="1"><font face="Arial" color="#000000"><caption>motorpower-metingen</caption></font><thead><tr><th bordercolor="#000000" bgcolor="#c0c0c0"><font face="Arial" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">rpm</font></th><th bordercolor="#000000" bgcolor="#c0c0c0"><font face="Arial" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">fuel</font></th><th bordercolor="#000000" bgcolor="#c0c0c0"><font face="Arial" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">exhaust</font></th><th bordercolor="#000000" bgcolor="#c0c0c0"><font face="Arial" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">plug</font></th><th bordercolor="#000000" bgcolor="#c0c0c0"><font face="Arial" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">remark</font></th><th bordercolor="#000000" bgcolor="#c0c0c0"><font face="Arial" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">prop</font></th><th bordercolor="#000000" bgcolor="#c0c0c0"><font face="Arial" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Tekst14</font></th><th bordercolor="#000000" bgcolor="#c0c0c0"><font face="Arial" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Tekst18</font></th><th bordercolor="#000000" bgcolor="#c0c0c0"><font face="Arial" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Tekst20</font></th></tr></thead><tr valign="top"><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">5400</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">3211S</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">MVVS side muffler, insert in place</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">27x10TH mej</font></td><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">6.1</font></td><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">0</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td></tr><tr valign="top"><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">5800</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">3211S</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">MVVS side muffler, insert removed</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">27x10TH mej</font></td><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">7.5</font></td><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">0</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td></tr><tr valign="top"><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">5800</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">3211i Pitts</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">MVVS inverted pitts muffler</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">27x10TH mej</font></td><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">7.5</font></td><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">0</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td></tr><tr valign="top"><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">6200</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">int 58</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">MVVS, first tests</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">27x10TH mej</font></td><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">9.2</font></td><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">0</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td></tr><tr valign="top"><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">6210</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">int 80 prot</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">janch real life data</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">27x10TH mej</font></td><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">9.26</font></td><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">1</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td></tr><tr valign="top"><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">6210</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">int 80 prot</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">janch real life data</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">26x10 Bamb</font></td><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">0</font></td><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">1</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td></tr><tr valign="top"><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">6300</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">hp</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">3211i Pitts</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">MVVS inverted pitts muffler</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">26x10N mej</font></td><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">7.15</font></td><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">0</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td></tr><tr valign="top"><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">6340</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">int 80 prot</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">janch real life data</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">27x10 JAS</font></td><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">0</font></td><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">1</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td></tr><tr valign="top"><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">6350</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">3204</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">engine A Bolle</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">24x10x3 mej</font></td><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">8.23</font></td><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">2</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td></tr><tr valign="top"><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">6390</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">TD75KK</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">engine A Bolle, shortened K muffler Nu naar Erik</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">24x10x3 mej</font></td><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">8.4</font></td><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">2</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td></tr><tr valign="top"><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">6420</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">TD75</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">engine A Bolle</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">24x10x3 mej</font></td><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">7.8</font></td><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">2</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td></tr><tr valign="top"><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">6450</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">TD110</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">engine A Bolle</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">24x10x3 mej</font></td><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">8.47</font></td><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">2</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td></tr><tr valign="top"><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">6460</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">TD75K</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">engine A Bolle</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">24x10x3 mej</font></td><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">8.47</font></td><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">2</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td></tr><tr valign="top"><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">6520</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">BMP-TP</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">teremel with MBP tuned pipe</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">27x10TH mej</font></td><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">10.72</font></td><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">3</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td></tr><tr valign="top"><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">6600</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">int80</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">janch</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">24x10x3 mej</font></td><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">9.24</font></td><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">1</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td></tr><tr valign="top"><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">6800</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">BMB-TP</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">Teremel</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">26x10 fiala</font></td><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">0</font></td><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">3</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td></tr><tr valign="top"><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">6900</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">int 80 prot</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">janch real life data</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">26x9 JAS</font></td><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">0</font></td><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">1</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td></tr><tr valign="top"><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">7050</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">1:40</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">int80 prot</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">prototype muffler (Mvvs claimed 12HP for engine at 8000 rpm) TP?</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">26x10mej</font></td><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">10.4</font></td><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">0</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td></tr><tr valign="top"><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">7100</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">MTW T3</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">engine A Bolle Very close to MVVS claim of 12HP@8000</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">24x10x3 mej</font></td><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">11.5</font></td><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">2</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
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Here are prop/rpm data I collected:
<table bgcolor="#ffffff" cellspacing="0" border="1"><font face="Arial" color="#000000"><caption>motorpower-metingen</caption></font><thead><tr><th bordercolor="#000000" bgcolor="#c0c0c0"><font face="Arial" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">rpm</font></th><th bordercolor="#000000" bgcolor="#c0c0c0"><font face="Arial" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">fuel</font></th><th bordercolor="#000000" bgcolor="#c0c0c0"><font face="Arial" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">exhaust</font></th><th bordercolor="#000000" bgcolor="#c0c0c0"><font face="Arial" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">plug</font></th><th bordercolor="#000000" bgcolor="#c0c0c0"><font face="Arial" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">remark</font></th><th bordercolor="#000000" bgcolor="#c0c0c0"><font face="Arial" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">prop</font></th><th bordercolor="#000000" bgcolor="#c0c0c0"><font face="Arial" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Tekst14</font></th><th bordercolor="#000000" bgcolor="#c0c0c0"><font face="Arial" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Tekst18</font></th><th bordercolor="#000000" bgcolor="#c0c0c0"><font face="Arial" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Tekst20</font></th></tr></thead><tr valign="top"><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">5400</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">3211S</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">MVVS side muffler, insert in place</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">27x10TH mej</font></td><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">6.1</font></td><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">0</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td></tr><tr valign="top"><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">5800</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">3211S</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">MVVS side muffler, insert removed</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">27x10TH mej</font></td><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">7.5</font></td><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">0</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td></tr><tr valign="top"><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">5800</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">3211i Pitts</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">MVVS inverted pitts muffler</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">27x10TH mej</font></td><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">7.5</font></td><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">0</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td></tr><tr valign="top"><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">6200</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">int 58</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">MVVS, first tests</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">27x10TH mej</font></td><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">9.2</font></td><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">0</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td></tr><tr valign="top"><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">6210</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">int 80 prot</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">janch real life data</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">27x10TH mej</font></td><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">9.26</font></td><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">1</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td></tr><tr valign="top"><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">6210</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">int 80 prot</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">janch real life data</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">26x10 Bamb</font></td><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">0</font></td><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">1</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td></tr><tr valign="top"><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">6300</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">hp</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">3211i Pitts</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">MVVS inverted pitts muffler</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">26x10N mej</font></td><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">7.15</font></td><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">0</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td></tr><tr valign="top"><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">6340</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">int 80 prot</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">janch real life data</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">27x10 JAS</font></td><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">0</font></td><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">1</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td></tr><tr valign="top"><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">6350</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">3204</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">engine A Bolle</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">24x10x3 mej</font></td><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">8.23</font></td><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">2</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td></tr><tr valign="top"><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">6390</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">TD75KK</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">engine A Bolle, shortened K muffler Nu naar Erik</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">24x10x3 mej</font></td><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">8.4</font></td><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">2</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td></tr><tr valign="top"><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">6420</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">TD75</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">engine A Bolle</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">24x10x3 mej</font></td><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">7.8</font></td><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">2</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td></tr><tr valign="top"><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">6450</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">TD110</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">engine A Bolle</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">24x10x3 mej</font></td><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">8.47</font></td><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">2</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td></tr><tr valign="top"><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">6460</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">TD75K</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">engine A Bolle</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">24x10x3 mej</font></td><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">8.47</font></td><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">2</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td></tr><tr valign="top"><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">6520</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">BMP-TP</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">teremel with MBP tuned pipe</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">27x10TH mej</font></td><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">10.72</font></td><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">3</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td></tr><tr valign="top"><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">6600</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">int80</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">janch</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">24x10x3 mej</font></td><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">9.24</font></td><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">1</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td></tr><tr valign="top"><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">6800</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">BMB-TP</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">Teremel</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">26x10 fiala</font></td><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">0</font></td><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">3</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td></tr><tr valign="top"><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">6900</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">int 80 prot</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">janch real life data</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">26x9 JAS</font></td><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">0</font></td><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">1</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td></tr><tr valign="top"><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">7050</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">1:40</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">int80 prot</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">prototype muffler (Mvvs claimed 12HP for engine at 8000 rpm) TP?</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">26x10mej</font></td><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">10.4</font></td><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">0</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td></tr><tr valign="top"><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">7100</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">MTW T3</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">engine A Bolle Very close to MVVS claim of 12HP@8000</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">24x10x3 mej</font></td><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">11.5</font></td><td align="right" bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">2</font></td><td bordercolor="#000000"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">
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RE: MVVS 80 ccm
Hello,
I mount the MVVS 80 with a muffler K&S 94V short in an extra 330 composite arf of 2,30 mts. Before I had a MVVS 58 but I was not a sufficient push
That length of elbow of muffler is suitable?
That propeller 26 x 10?
Thank you very much
I mount the MVVS 80 with a muffler K&S 94V short in an extra 330 composite arf of 2,30 mts. Before I had a MVVS 58 but I was not a sufficient push
That length of elbow of muffler is suitable?
That propeller 26 x 10?
Thank you very much
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RE: MVVS 80 ccm
Hi pilots,
I am realy lazy man nd I have to use starter on board for MVVS 80.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lO4h_sZmqf0
I am realy lazy man nd I have to use starter on board for MVVS 80.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lO4h_sZmqf0
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