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Old 07-01-2002, 10:10 PM
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I have purchased a Pirate Extra 230 with an 87" wing span and I'm considering installing a Brison 4.2 engine. Would someone have a set of prints or remember where the manufacture suggested a balance point to be, other than a general first third of the wing ?
Old 07-02-2002, 12:06 AM
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Default Pirate Extra 230

centered on the wing tube
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There is no wing tube. The attachments are wooden spars Fwd & Aft.
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memoryway,
are you positive it is a Pirate kit?
sounds more like an Ace Extra 230 with that type of wing mounting. The only ship that I know of that pirate kitted without a wing tube was the 25% 260, and it was a one piece wing. Sorry I could not be of more help
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No I'm not sure if infact it is a Pirate Extra. That was what the person that sold it to me said it was. He having gotten it from an other party may have mixed his signals. The option of rule of thumb (1/3 %)is looking better everyday. Untill I got this Extra I had never heard of Pirate!
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Flyby1 The Extra that I have is an 87" wing. Is that Ace 230 a 87" wing? Where if any is the Web Site for Ace? I'm asking because I just saw an Ace Extra 230 but the wings were 74" The rest logos ect. looked as mine does.
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I did a short google search for Ace 33% extra and came up with this ..






http://www.dbalsa.com/foam_wings/win...ing_list_e.htm

they list the Ace 33% extra at 87-1/2" WS
you might want to do a more intense search . hope this helps

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Thanks a bunch I'll do some digging. I've a hunch your very close to the correct manufacture.
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Default Pirate Extra 230

Heres a good CG calculator:
http://www.palosrc.com/instructors/cg.htm
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That was the way to go Jemo! Thank you. Now just for the record the ACE Web Site is eating my lunch, can't find it.
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Default Pirate Extra 230

Ace has been taken over by ThunderTiger.

www.thundertiger.com
or

http://www.acehobby.com/acehobby/
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Default Pirate Extra 230

You are just all over the place! I had gone there but not seeing what I thought I wanted to see (Extra 230) I bailed out. I just emailed these folks and if they are as helpful as you and the rest have been I'm done.
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Default ACE Extra 230 30%

Memoryway
I have the original Ace Extra 230 30% kit that had not build yet.
The spec. are :
Wing span- 87" Wing Area - 1190 Sq In
Weight - 15 Lbs and up
Power - ST2500, ST3000, Q35, G38, and similar
The center of gravity is just behind front spar. The control surface for start movements are :
Aileron 1/2" up & down
Elevator 1" up & down
Rudder all you can get
I have seen people flying with 2.4 & 3.2 with great result.

Hope this help.
Tom
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BINGO FOR RC-3D. Thats all and more than I wanted to know. Thank you to all for the efforts.

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