DoubleD

Gator told me a while back about the trim solvent...It works good.

But when I covered my SudoKhoi it leached between seams and screwed up the top color Monokote where it overlaps. Since then I have used Acetone. Just spray it on a paper towel an wipe from the middle toward the edge. After it dries wipe off the Monokote glue that comes from the edges with a slightly dampened towel and the trim wont come off with dynamite then.

Just dont get it on your decals or they'll just be sticky pieces of plastic stuck to your base color....David

aeropenguin

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Guys, this is a great thread!
Let me get this straight -
I just spray windex over the adhesive surface of the monokote, then spread it across the wing or what-ever, and then adjust it so it's neat and not wrinkled, and then squeeze all the windex out of the joint, and let it dry?
If I am not sure about it after it has dried, can I go over it with heat, or will that ruin it becuase of the previously applied Windex?

The above talks about adding a solid color to the wing - the first layer.

For trim - stripes, checkers, etc, just spray, spread across wing covering, squeeze out Wx, let dry?

Can anybody please tell me, what does the Monokote trim solvent do?
A. because the Wx isn't enough?
B. why can't I just seal it with an iron?

Thanks guys!
-Michael

Johnnylightning

This is one of the main reasons I stopped building/covering! Does Top Flight know about this? RCU, where have you been all my life!

TERMAGATOR

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Michael,
let me see if I can explain.....the windex method is for laying monokote uptop of monokote that has already been laid down.
What you do is spray the windexontop of the monokote previously ironed down, then place the monokote trim design ontop of the windex, slide it into position and squegy out the trapped windex with an old credit card. Let it sit overnight, I iron it down on hard surfaces like leading edges, and trim it up if necessary. I take Trim Solvent , which is made by Monokote, did a Q-Tip into the trim solvent and go around the edges of the covering.
answer to question A:
Yes sometimes windex is enough depending on where your putting it. If your putting it in a place where it will get alot of oil , then it will probably take some help like the solvent

B..you can use heat around LE's or where there is a solid surface to press against...but it will blister up if you use to much heat, so be careful.....hope this helps...Good Luck...Gator

TERMAGATOR

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here is a thread that explains the windex method pretty good, maybe I left out some photos how to apply the trim solvent...G
http://www.rcuniverse.com/showthread...331&forumid=63]

aeropenguin

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Aaaaw, so I cannot use it for the first, solid coat? Why not?

Thanx for clearing it up to me and bringing another dimention into covering! How much easier!!!

-aeroP

scole

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If i put a base on of Ultra, then Monokote trim, can i still use the Mono. trim solvent?

Billy Hell

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Mono sticks to ultra but ultra doesn't stick to mono. Right?

aeropenguin

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scole, I imagine yes, since it has nothing to do with monokote. It just slowly, as a solvent, "melts" the edge of the trim covering against the base layer, making it phiisically imposible fgor it to come off, unless the base comes off with it, or they somehow magically separate, which wounldnb't happen in life.
THAT"S WHAT I ASSUME.......

Thanx!
-aeroP

TERMAGATOR

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Ultra sticks to mono if your useing heat...it doesnt blister as bad as mono if you useing low heat. Ultra does not stick to mono useing windex, unless its ultra+

I like 21st century film too, works good with mono or ultra useing windex, and I would use trim solvent on it too

Bad Driver

Hi Guys,

FWIW here's what I found out...

I wanted to try the Windex method but unfortunately that particular product is not available in the U.K. (we get Mr. Muscle from SCJ ). So, whilst wandering around one of the cheapo stores in my town I found some basic window cleaner which I bought primarily to clean my planes with. But, when i looked on the back label I found it contains Glycol Ether and then via Google I got this...

So, the magic behind the Windex method is a solvent which dissolves the Monokote adhesive and makes it stick.

Haven't tried it yet tho LOL

B.D.

Johnnylightning

So it actually acts as a mild trim solvent? :thumbup: Choice!

aeropenguin

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Cool! That seems to explain everything!

AND, the trim sealer by mono is just a stronger, less-mild solvent.

-aeroP
P.S. Driver, what does FWIW mean?

Bad Driver

AeroP,

For What It's Worth - I use it a lot

I find it strange that the more expensive, proprietary, glass cleaners like Windex & Mr. Muscle don't have their chemical contents listed No doubt the E.U. will soon see to that (a political comment for the benefit of us Europeans).

Happy Windex-ing !

B.D.

aeropenguin

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Happy Windexing to you to!
Thanks for the clarification!
Hope you can stay in the air more often and less "landings" is ya know what I mean

-aeroP

ragbag

I picked up a hint from one of the RC Report Guys, sorry I don't remember his name to give him the credit.

He recommends Minwax Wipe-On Poly. Like Gator, he said to put it on with Q-tip. He claims it will not change color over time and will keep the point's down. Do not try to go over it after a short time, it will be tacky and can get messy, Quick clean with mineral spirits and was back in the saddle again.

Put it on my Sig Ultimate and the Ohio Edge 540.
The Ohio stayed together, haven't flown the Sig yet, and as they say time will tell.

RAGBAG

Texas 3D

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guys, I don't think Windex has any adhesive or activates any adhesive on the monokote. It is just applied to be able to slide around. You can also use water with dishwashing soap (I use that method). Works just as fine.
I think once the backing of the monkote is removed the adhesive is exposed and when dry on the surface it simply sticks. If you hit it with the iron after it sticked, you will attach it just a little better. The trim solvent around the edges is just used to prevent of oil getting underneath the trim, so the trim doesn't peel off.
That was always my impression how it worked. Maybe I am wrong. But what is important is that it really works great.

Johnnylightning

Yeah Ulf, I think you're right. I've had scraps of Mono where the backing had been previously peeled off and if it's laying on top of another scrap or simply folded over onto itself, back-to-back, after a while it adheres to itself w/out any heat whatsoever. However, I've never tried the Windex or soap method, but you're right, all that matters is that it works! :thumbup:

bgorham

Believe gator ... he is right about this. I live in the UK also, and just used a generic window cleaner that I bought at tesco. Also, I can not get monkote here, so I experimented with various things and found that solarfilm over a profilm base worked great. It does make you look good!!!!

Bo

Unstable

I just want to add one thing.


who here has seen My Big Fat Greek Wedding ?

the old man was right.

aeropenguin

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lol, I've seen it!