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Old 08-27-2004, 08:49 PM
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I recently got a new Zdz 50 NG and as Rcs recomended got some Belray.
I also have a broken inZdZ 60 that was running a Klotz mix but rather than use 2 cans Ive been running them both on the Belray.
Now Ive found that my usual starting routine is causing problems.
( Ignition on, Choke on flip till it burps, Choke off = starts )
The Zdz 60 now has a tendency to backfire if I use the above start...sooo I thought that the mixture must be off and re did it all.
Still does it.
I see a thread that H1r has octane boosters in it any one got any thoughts???? Could it be the octane booster.????
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andyt; I have used Bel-Ray MC-1 for years without problems. Only recently have I been reading about guys using the H1r. Prior to my change to Bel-Ray, I had been using Klotz or Amsoil but didn't have any re-setting problems. Really, the only reason I made the change was my local Harley dealer has it. I'm glad I did, and I'll stay with the MC-1.........
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""I see a thread that H1R has octane boosters"",,, that was me, I was told by Bell Ray that H1R has an octane booster,,, but the MC1 does not have the booster,,, I have a MVVS, and MVVS instructs the use of high octane,,, I suggest not to use H1R if your motor is recomended to use low octane, then use MC1.


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Looks like I found the problem...Front seal sprung a leak so I doubt it is the H1R fwiw it runs great in my G38
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Where can one buy the Belray H1R? Motorcycle shops only?

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update on the octane booster,,,

see page 3 in the link, on page 3 you will see a blue-highlighted Email from BellRay, saying they do NOT use octane booster any-more,,, the Email says that it was MC-1 that had the octane booster, I was told on the phone it was H1R that had the octane booster,,, what-ever, it doesn't matter any more because they stopped using it,,, unless you have an older quart of oil,,,

http://http://www.rcuniverse.com/for...2610227/tm.htm

the guy at BellRay told me that H1R burns cleaner than MC-1, because H1R is made to keep the power valves on dirt bikes clean, but you will see on page 1 in the link that when using H1R the motor ran 15, 20 degrees hotter than other oils,,,

what ever LOL

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yes, buy it at a Motorcycle shop.

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Oh yea, I have been waiting on the results of the Saber 110:1 test.

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For the H1R test it was also hotter outside.
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jbflier, what mix ratio do you use for the MC1 oil.
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karolh.............50:1.....[8D]
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jbflier, same for me too and having great results with this oil in my Zenoahs.

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