rhklenke

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OK, so I tanked my V1 85" QQ Yak yesterday. I read all of the stuff on here (well a lot of it anyway) and I was down to the V2 86" QQ Yak or the 88" EF Yak as the new ride for my DA-50. Then I get an email from my Composite-ARF rep. about this:

http://www.composite-arf.com.hk/ar/Catalog?cat=39

I've done several Composite-ARF jets and I like them a lot. I also like the looks of their Yaks, but they're not DA-50 size.

What's the consensus on this Composite-ARF Extra? Should I go for one of these, or a Yak????

Thanks!
Bob

krayzc-RCU

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here to listen since i have the EF Yak.

frisconick

Bob,

I'm right there with you. I crash landed my TF P-51 (w/DA-50) a month ago and I'm still waiting for a replacement wing. I've been leaning toward a Yak myself since I can't seem to get a new wing. I've had the V2 QQ recommended to me, but I like the looks of the Aeroworks Yak a lot better (don't know about flight characteristics, though). I too have looked at the 2.12 meter Extras AND the 2.3 Extra that they say performs very well with a DA-50 and tuned pipe. I'm anxious to hear other recommendations.

Nick

camss69

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I'm building the 74" version of the EF YAK right now and I have to say it's the most impressive wood kit I've seen to date, the 88" looks to be about the same from what I'm reading and seeing on the forums. I like the fact that it comes with the carbon wing tubes and ti linkages out of the box. The video's I've seen flight performance is amazing, so I know this plane is going to be awesome. (going with the YS 1.60 DZ on this one)

I've seen first hand the new 2.12 comp-arf extra, and it is also really impressive. No flight reports yet, but out of the box the thing looks very nice, much better than it looks in the pics. (I've seen the blue one) They've made some changes to how the servos mount in the wing hatches, the canopy looks like a real pain, but I like the split cowl, the built in pipe tunnel, carbon gear looks nice and is light, and it's all already hinged for you. I can't wait to see how it flies. He's putting a ZDZ 40 in it with the pipe so power shouldn't be a problem.

I think really it comes down to do you want a YAK or do you want an Extra? You can't go wrong with either, but the comp-arf still needs to be proven flight capability wise, where you know (for right now at least) the YAK is proven.

I'm looking at swapping out my 50cc extra towards the end of the year as my weekday flyer, so I'm interested in seeing what others have to say on this same subject. I'll have my answer when these two planes are completed and I get to see how they both fly.

Jake Ruddy

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Extras are nice... but the schemes on the new comp-arfs are some of the ugliest out there.

I would also bet the EF or the QQ Yak will fly a lot lighter.

RobT

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Build a Carden Cuda!

rhklenke

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Nope - too much building to do already - its got to be an ARF, and the more RF, the better...

rhklenke

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Well, if you look at the published stats. the Composite ARF looks to be the lighter of the three. I know manufacturer's spec.s are from the manufacturer, but my V1 QQ Yak came out at 17.5 lbs dry and flew very light. The Composite ARF props I've seen fly very light as well and if you can come close to the 15.5 max. weight stated for the Comp-ARF, it should fly light as well...

Bob

krayzc-RCU

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get what rocks your boat and get that thing in the air time and life is short....

airborneSGT

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If you enjoy a slower flying plane get a Yak; if you like something more slick then go for an Extra. Myself I prefer to 3D with Extra's. I thought the Comp Arf Yak was an outstanding plane if you fly IMAC but for me I can 3d better with Extras or Ultimates.

The nice thing about a 50cc Ultimate is that if you have a truck or van you can keep it put together. Makes it much easier to just "go fly."

vanguard

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Take a look at the Dietrich Aviation Extra 260 in the 50cc size. Very complete arf and ready to fly in about 6 to 8 hours. Comes out light and flies exceptionally well.

http://www.dietrichaircraft.com/50cc...ccExtra260.php

SunShyne

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just a coouple of suggestions from my angle.

[link=http://www.airwildhobbies.com/MoreInfo.asp?title=product&level=2&id=43]AirWild Extra 260[/link] about 15lbs rtf, one of the lightest in its class

and since you mentioned comparf's, they are on sale

[link=http://www.composite-arf.com.hk/ar/Catalog?cat=39]Comp Arf Extra[/link] what else can be said? its a comp-arf

[link=http://www.wildharerc.com/products/sukhoi85/]WildHare Sukhoi[/link] Wildhare birds are simply amazing, well built, light and bulletproof. price is among lowest in class as well

I agree with with the C man, get whatever floats your boat and fly the jeebers out of it!

good luck

SinCityJets

The QQ is tough to be beat, but if you want to put the RF in ARF, then Aeroworks is the obvious answer!

Josey Wales

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EF Yak...no contest[8D]

rhklenke

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Lot's of good suggestions guys! In fact, too many good suggestions

I didn't realize that the 50cc market was so strong. I wish I could try them all

I've never tried a Comp ARF prop before, so I think I'll pull the trigger on a 2.1m Extra. Don't tell my wife...[8D]

Thanks!
Bob

Ragz

did someone say 50cc ultimate bipe? does one even exist?

Jake Ruddy

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Sure it's lighter.. the wings are also smaller. Ever notice comp-arf doesnt publish square inches? I emailed them asking for some info on squares and the response I got was "I am not sure". I was like.. gee great that you sell a nice looking plane.. too bad you dont know anything about it.

I have seen several 2.6s fly and flown the 2.3 serveral times.. straight as an arrow.. but the 2.3 is heavy to say the least. I cant see the new one being much better.. the 2x2 was not a 3D bird.

Sukhoi4Me

Wild Hare has a 29% Ultimate, ought to be good for a 50cc right??? On the website, it says 50cc to 60 cc...

krayzc-RCU

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sinergy
u got that right about the smaller stuff

alpapilot

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The website says the the wing is 1405 squares. That coupled with 15.5lbs should make the plane fly like a kite. I'm thinking about pulling the trigger on one two.

krayzc-RCU

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u know if the site says that weight be sure to add for those who over glue and over build along with putting in their heavier hardware sounds about right to me

Jake Ruddy

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Well if the numbers and weights come out correct then I will be the first to admit I was wrong.. however looking at their track record on the smaller stuff I am not holding my breath. Now get 2.6 and above you can't loose. Maybe they have gotten smarter.. who knows. I wish they had of come out with some nice schemes though..

alpapilot

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Yeah, those that add weight for no good reason amaze me. First, I will be using lipos and a pitts muffler so, weight will go down right there. I am at 800' MSL so I don't need the few hundred extra RPMs that a pipe would give (the louder the better, we are way out in the sticks).

Also, I kinda dig the red and yellow scheme. I think I will email Comp-ARF and see if they can tell me what other schemes they will be coming out with. If they use the US Flag theme I might have to wait for that one.

krayzc-RCU

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its always the flyer who spends the $ so do as u please no panties should every get in a wad...