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Should stinkin foamys be allowed in the same airspace as a high dollar turbine jet?
03-13-2008, 05:51 PM
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RE: Should stinkin foamys be allowed in the same airspace as a high dollar turbine jet?
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Did someone say, 'wet foamie'?
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Guilty as Charged; Beat with a Wet Foamie!
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RE: Should stinkin foamys be allowed in the same airspace as a high dollar turbine jet?
If you had a "Mid Air" with a Fat girl on a Raptor would they be banned for life?
03-13-2008, 07:40 PM
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RE: Should stinkin foamys be allowed in the same airspace as a high dollar turbine jet?
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If you had a "Mid Air" with a Fat girl on a Raptor would they be banned for life?
If you had a "Mid Air" with a Fat girl on a Raptor would they be banned for life?
03-13-2008, 09:52 PM
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Okay,
Let's see if we can make it to 11 pages.
How do we know that the Mig pilot was actually flying in the proper direction and following the pattern established by the foamie pilot? Granted I don't typicallly care for foamies, however this time I will give him the benefit of the doubt and presume that he (the foamie pilot) was indeed flying the pattern and the Mig pilot blatently disregarded the established pattern.
Any takers?
Popcorn ready, Mike and Ikes on standby and the wife is getting the drink.
p.s.
Kip, you said you fly what you can afford. If you have been building and flying multi-million dollar UAV's for a living and you fly foamies, you ought to consider raising your hourly labor rate so you can make a little more. I have been flying UAV's for 25 years, since 1983 when I soloed. Technically speaking, ALL R/C aircraft are UAV's. Your profession has no bearing on the issue of whether or not the foamies should have shared airspace when a jet is airborn. So big whooping deal, go toot your horn elsewhere. Talk about us having the egotistical attitude.
You can have the best spotter in the world but the other pilots are still flying their planes as well, and time progresses even after your spotter tells you of the last known location of an aircraft that may have been in your path.
I'm NOT rich, but I've been very blessed to own ONE jet; traded sweat equity labor for an engine, and got a screaming deal on the airframe. I had to sell a bunch of other R/C stuff so I could complete this jet and I tell you what, I AM NOT the type of person who thinks that I am better than anyone else but if I crashed my jet because someone was loitering around the runway with a foamie, I'd be absolutely livid and there would be some reimbursment I guarentee you that.
.............I build and fly multi-million dollar UAV's......blah blah blah
Les
Let's see if we can make it to 11 pages.
How do we know that the Mig pilot was actually flying in the proper direction and following the pattern established by the foamie pilot? Granted I don't typicallly care for foamies, however this time I will give him the benefit of the doubt and presume that he (the foamie pilot) was indeed flying the pattern and the Mig pilot blatently disregarded the established pattern.
Any takers?
Popcorn ready, Mike and Ikes on standby and the wife is getting the drink.
p.s.
Kip, you said you fly what you can afford. If you have been building and flying multi-million dollar UAV's for a living and you fly foamies, you ought to consider raising your hourly labor rate so you can make a little more. I have been flying UAV's for 25 years, since 1983 when I soloed. Technically speaking, ALL R/C aircraft are UAV's. Your profession has no bearing on the issue of whether or not the foamies should have shared airspace when a jet is airborn. So big whooping deal, go toot your horn elsewhere. Talk about us having the egotistical attitude.
You can have the best spotter in the world but the other pilots are still flying their planes as well, and time progresses even after your spotter tells you of the last known location of an aircraft that may have been in your path.
I'm NOT rich, but I've been very blessed to own ONE jet; traded sweat equity labor for an engine, and got a screaming deal on the airframe. I had to sell a bunch of other R/C stuff so I could complete this jet and I tell you what, I AM NOT the type of person who thinks that I am better than anyone else but if I crashed my jet because someone was loitering around the runway with a foamie, I'd be absolutely livid and there would be some reimbursment I guarentee you that.
.............I build and fly multi-million dollar UAV's......blah blah blah
Les
03-13-2008, 09:57 PM
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RE: Should stinkin foamys be allowed in the same airspace as a high dollar turbine jet?
let me throw this in.... Due to the size of the 2 'jets'. The patterns will be different. If the foamie would fly the pattern of the mig, on the down wind it would be pretty small. The foamie is going to fly a much tighter pattern than the mig. If the Mig was making a pass between the taxi strip and main runway that would be in the neighborhood of the downwind side for the foamie! The Mig actually would have been a lot safer doing a low pass over the runway. You can tell from the pic that they're not over the taxi way (active runway)..
03-13-2008, 10:47 PM
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RE: Should stinkin foamys be allowed in the same airspace as a high dollar turbine jet?
ORIGINAL: Patrick Frost
If you had a "Mid Air" with a Fat girl on a Raptor would they be banned for life?
If you had a "Mid Air" with a Fat girl on a Raptor would they be banned for life?
If that tub of grease farts, the U.S will lose a $130 million plane. [X(] Look how close the flame from the missile is to her backside...er um I mean her all-over-side. LOL
03-13-2008, 11:04 PM
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RE: Should stinkin foamys be allowed in the same airspace as a high dollar turbine jet?
If you post after this post, I hope someone tracks you down and does terrible things to you and your family. This has gone as far as it can go and I will personaly kick David in the crotch for starting this poll. 
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03-14-2008, 06:25 AM
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RE: Should stinkin foamys be allowed in the same airspace as a high dollar turbine jet?
ORIGINAL: ama234
Okay,
Let's see if we can make it to 11 pages.
How do we know that the Mig pilot was actually flying in the proper direction and following the pattern established by the foamie pilot? Granted I don't typicallly care for foamies, however this time I will give him the benefit of the doubt and presume that he (the foamie pilot) was indeed flying the pattern and the Mig pilot blatently disregarded the established pattern.
Any takers?
Popcorn ready, Mike and Ikes on standby and the wife is getting the drink.
p.s.
Kip, you said you fly what you can afford. If you have been building and flying multi-million dollar UAV's for a living and you fly foamies, you ought to consider raising your hourly labor rate so you can make a little more. I have been flying UAV's for 25 years, since 1983 when I soloed. Technically speaking, ALL R/C aircraft are UAV's. Your profession has no bearing on the issue of whether or not the foamies should have shared airspace when a jet is airborn. So big whooping deal, go toot your horn elsewhere. Talk about us having the egotistical attitude.
You can have the best spotter in the world but the other pilots are still flying their planes as well, and time progresses even after your spotter tells you of the last known location of an aircraft that may have been in your path.
I'm NOT rich, but I've been very blessed to own ONE jet; traded sweat equity labor for an engine, and got a screaming deal on the airframe. I had to sell a bunch of other R/C stuff so I could complete this jet and I tell you what, I AM NOT the type of person who thinks that I am better than anyone else but if I crashed my jet because someone was loitering around the runway with a foamie, I'd be absolutely livid and there would be some reimbursment I guarentee you that.
.............I build and fly multi-million dollar UAV's......blah blah blah
Les
Okay,
Let's see if we can make it to 11 pages.
How do we know that the Mig pilot was actually flying in the proper direction and following the pattern established by the foamie pilot? Granted I don't typicallly care for foamies, however this time I will give him the benefit of the doubt and presume that he (the foamie pilot) was indeed flying the pattern and the Mig pilot blatently disregarded the established pattern.
Any takers?
Popcorn ready, Mike and Ikes on standby and the wife is getting the drink.
p.s.
Kip, you said you fly what you can afford. If you have been building and flying multi-million dollar UAV's for a living and you fly foamies, you ought to consider raising your hourly labor rate so you can make a little more. I have been flying UAV's for 25 years, since 1983 when I soloed. Technically speaking, ALL R/C aircraft are UAV's. Your profession has no bearing on the issue of whether or not the foamies should have shared airspace when a jet is airborn. So big whooping deal, go toot your horn elsewhere. Talk about us having the egotistical attitude.
You can have the best spotter in the world but the other pilots are still flying their planes as well, and time progresses even after your spotter tells you of the last known location of an aircraft that may have been in your path.
I'm NOT rich, but I've been very blessed to own ONE jet; traded sweat equity labor for an engine, and got a screaming deal on the airframe. I had to sell a bunch of other R/C stuff so I could complete this jet and I tell you what, I AM NOT the type of person who thinks that I am better than anyone else but if I crashed my jet because someone was loitering around the runway with a foamie, I'd be absolutely livid and there would be some reimbursment I guarentee you that.
.............I build and fly multi-million dollar UAV's......blah blah blah
Les
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RE: Should stinkin foamys be allowed in the same airspace as a high dollar turbine jet?
This Was Sent from Germany and Attached to this original Thread
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Hi All,
Despite the copied thread name this is NOT to restart the pi**ing contest foam against $$$.
Unfortunely because of the fight the moderators felt tempted to close the original poll:
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_7196698/tm.htm
I just like to inform you that the owner of the Mig29 those loss spawned off this notorious thread has spoken in the german forums:
http://www.rc-network.de/forum/showthread.php?t=84723 (postcount #14)
Unfortunely to late to include it in the old thread (but may be a moderator can move this as "concluding post" into the old thread)
This is more or less accurate translation of his expaining words:
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Hi Guys,
I don't know what's been written in RC-U (as I don't read there) but I'd like to give you some first hand experience.
1. Stryrojets have rescued the meeting. Almost no other jets have been flying during the storm.
2. The small boy started while I was still fighting with air bubbles in my fuel system. He was up before me.
So it was MY fault !!
I'd never thougt about such a scenario.
Unfortunely the styro blocks have stoped my engines just seconds later, so I crashed everything outside the field.
We both have made mistakes.
I started (after being released) regardless of a styrojet still flying and the small boy didn't fly in the pattern.
I have learned by this and will built a new one.
Greatings Thomas Singer
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So it looks like the guy that could complain the most about it ist also the most grown up.
Would be nice to conclude this with his words:
>>P.S.: Bitte nehmt dieses als Information,und diskutiert es nicht kaputt.
>>PS.: Please take this as information and don't start discussing it to death.
regards Peter
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************************************************** *********************************
Hi All,
Despite the copied thread name this is NOT to restart the pi**ing contest foam against $$$.
Unfortunely because of the fight the moderators felt tempted to close the original poll:
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_7196698/tm.htm
I just like to inform you that the owner of the Mig29 those loss spawned off this notorious thread has spoken in the german forums:
http://www.rc-network.de/forum/showthread.php?t=84723 (postcount #14)
Unfortunely to late to include it in the old thread (but may be a moderator can move this as "concluding post" into the old thread)
This is more or less accurate translation of his expaining words:
//////////////////////////////////
Hi Guys,
I don't know what's been written in RC-U (as I don't read there) but I'd like to give you some first hand experience.
1. Stryrojets have rescued the meeting. Almost no other jets have been flying during the storm.
2. The small boy started while I was still fighting with air bubbles in my fuel system. He was up before me.
So it was MY fault !!
I'd never thougt about such a scenario.
Unfortunely the styro blocks have stoped my engines just seconds later, so I crashed everything outside the field.
We both have made mistakes.
I started (after being released) regardless of a styrojet still flying and the small boy didn't fly in the pattern.
I have learned by this and will built a new one.
Greatings Thomas Singer
//////////////////////////////////
So it looks like the guy that could complain the most about it ist also the most grown up.
Would be nice to conclude this with his words:
>>P.S.: Bitte nehmt dieses als Information,und diskutiert es nicht kaputt.
>>PS.: Please take this as information and don't start discussing it to death.
regards Peter
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Status: offline Mucho kudos to Thomas for his integrity in making such a statement.
If the guy who had the biggest loss in this incident doesn't see fit to put all blame on the foamy, then IMO no-one else has any grounds to stand on in trying to assign such blame.
That doesn't mean that planners of future events etc should ignore some of the valid concerns that people have about mixing aircraft of vastly dissimilar speeds etc - but at least for this one incident the matter ought to now be laid to rest.
Bravo Thomas.
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Status: offline Kudos to Thomas Singer! I have had the pleasure of meeting him and he is every bit the gentleman he portrays in that thread. I hate his model was destroyed as it is one of the finest pieces of engineering I have seen fly, but I have no doubt he will rebuild it and have an even nicer model in the future.
Hopefully this will help to remove the stain of the "turbine pilot" image portrayed by the previous thread....
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That doesn't mean that planners of future events etc should ignore some of the valid concerns that people have about mixing aircraft of vastly dissimilar speeds etc - but at least for this one incident the matter ought to now be laid to rest.
... but the key is this different aircraft groups have ZERO to do with the price or material of modell ...
And recaping this event and being on others with difficult weather conditions the problem is to keep the show interesting while the preplanned program is canceled by the pilotes because of the weather.
This is were it starts getting erratic and the mixing of different aircraft is becomming very difficult to organise.
Peter
P.S. Unfortunely I know the same kind of (notorious) $$$ behaviour on german roads by BMW, Mercedes and Audi owners.
Unfortunely there is a point were the "toy" becomes a personality extention.
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Moderators please close this thread
Agreed,
especially as the "replies" are missing any "futher information"
Any chance I can close it myself ?
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I think someone already took the horse away and your still trying to beat it.
Quote makes much more sense after seeing your avitar
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Status: offline Mucho kudos to Thomas for his integrity in making such a statement.
If the guy who had the biggest loss in this incident doesn't see fit to put all blame on the foamy, then IMO no-one else has any grounds to stand on in trying to assign such blame.
That doesn't mean that planners of future events etc should ignore some of the valid concerns that people have about mixing aircraft of vastly dissimilar speeds etc - but at least for this one incident the matter ought to now be laid to rest.
Bravo Thomas.
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Hopefully this will help to remove the stain of the "turbine pilot" image portrayed by the previous thread....
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That doesn't mean that planners of future events etc should ignore some of the valid concerns that people have about mixing aircraft of vastly dissimilar speeds etc - but at least for this one incident the matter ought to now be laid to rest.
... but the key is this different aircraft groups have ZERO to do with the price or material of modell ...
And recaping this event and being on others with difficult weather conditions the problem is to keep the show interesting while the preplanned program is canceled by the pilotes because of the weather.
This is were it starts getting erratic and the mixing of different aircraft is becomming very difficult to organise.
Peter
P.S. Unfortunely I know the same kind of (notorious) $$$ behaviour on german roads by BMW, Mercedes and Audi owners.
Unfortunely there is a point were the "toy" becomes a personality extention.
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RE: Should stinkin foamys be allowed in the same airsp... - 3/26/2008 8:24:40 PM
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RE: Should stinkin foamys be allowed in the same airsp... - 3/26/2008 8:33:11 PM
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RE: Should stinkin foamys be allowed in the same airsp... - 3/26/2008 10:16:28 PM
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RE: Should stinkin foamys be allowed in the same airsp... - 3/27/2008 2:54:50 AM
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quote:
ORIGINAL: ianober
Moderators please close this thread
Agreed,
especially as the "replies" are missing any "futher information"
Any chance I can close it myself ?
(In RC-Groups there is a thread tool to close the thread by the thread-starter.
actually I'm missing a lot of thread tools here compared to RC-Groups)
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RE: Should stinkin foamys be allowed in the same airsp... - 3/27/2008 3:12:36 AM
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ORIGINAL: theradioflyer
I think someone already took the horse away and your still trying to beat it.
Quote makes much more sense after seeing your avitar
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