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Old 01-24-2006, 09:34 PM
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It's just a little pile of rocks, and though my LST can handle, the extended suspension, thanks to the cantilever shock setup, it will be able to tackle the rocks better. And I really don't want a little electric right now, besides a t3 of course.


Ohh, and I saw the crawling video, where they had this buggy roll cage for the Revo. It looked awesome. I'll get a link, but do any of you know of a roll-cage like this? It made the revo look like a baja buggy with huge wheels. It was tight
Old 01-24-2006, 09:38 PM
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alvinl,

The rockers set up the progressive travel of your suspension. Basically, if you watch your suspension closely (no, I'm not talking about chasing your truck down the track) you'll see how the rockers function.

When the suspension is fully extended (all the way out) and you begin suspension compression the shock piston moves slowly through the shock body. The more the suspension is compressed the faster the piston moves through the shock oil. This has the effect of being stiffening more and more as your suspension travels, due to oil viscosity and friction.

Which rocker you use determines the rate of the progressive travel.

... I'm confused, are you?
So, do the p2 rockers give you more suspension travel than the stock p1 rockers? You say it determines the "rate" of the pregressive travel, but what does that mean. Does it give you a stiffer suspension?
With the Revo, you have a progressive rate suspension... in other words, as the suspension compresses, it changes its shock/rebound rate... the P1's have relatively no progression... all the way to the P3's which have a HIGH progression.... So, to kind of explain it... as the suspension gets compressed, it is much lighter in the beginning, then it progressively gets stiffer... so, the P2's are a higher progression from P1's... which make it stiffer at the top of the suspension stroke... I run P2's with LT springs and 70wt oil... I can drop my Revo from my chest (~5') and it won't hit the skids on the ground.
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http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...7975117&q=revo

that's the link to the video with the awesome roll cage i am talking about.
Old 01-24-2006, 09:41 PM
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It's just a little pile of rocks, and though my LST can handle, the extended suspension, thanks to the cantilever shock setup, it will be able to tackle the rocks better. And I really don't want a little electric right now, besides a t3 of course.


Ohh, and I saw the crawling video, where they had this buggy roll cage for the Revo. It looked awesome. I'll get a link, but do any of you know of a roll-cage like this? It made the revo look like a baja buggy with huge wheels. It was tight
Ah, well.. for the crawling Revo, you can use the LT rockers... and springs... which gives you 120mm of wheel travel... probably light oil... (stock 30wt)

The jumping Revo... I love my suspension for jumping... P2's... LT springs... 70wt oil...
Old 01-24-2006, 09:44 PM
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It's just a little pile of rocks, and though my LST can handle, the extended suspension, thanks to the cantilever shock setup, it will be able to tackle the rocks better. And I really don't want a little electric right now, besides a t3 of course.


Ohh, and I saw the crawling video, where they had this buggy roll cage for the Revo. It looked awesome. I'll get a link, but do any of you know of a roll-cage like this? It made the revo look like a baja buggy with huge wheels. It was tight
trust me. if you want a crawler, you dont want a revo. if you want a cheap crawler, go to wal mart and get one of those Nylint Jeeps.
Old 01-24-2006, 09:46 PM
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http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...7975117&q=revo

that's the link to the video with the awesome roll cage i am talking about.
That's a sweet vid... I'm not sure what he's running, but I would use lighter springs... and lighter oil... and be sure that it's got a lower CG (setting the preload low) That will help him not roll as much. I'm not sure how he got 14/72 gearing... that's crazy... sounds more like a T-maxx
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Um.. I think he'd rather have a hobbyclass crawler.
Old 01-24-2006, 09:49 PM
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alvinl,

The rockers set up the progressive travel of your suspension. Basically, if you watch your suspension closely (no, I'm not talking about chasing your truck down the track) you'll see how the rockers function.

When the suspension is fully extended (all the way out) and you begin suspension compression the shock piston moves slowly through the shock body. The more the suspension is compressed the faster the piston moves through the shock oil. This has the effect of being stiffening more and more as your suspension travels, due to oil viscosity and friction.

Which rocker you use determines the rate of the progressive travel.

... I'm confused, are you?
So, do the p2 rockers give you more suspension travel than the stock p1 rockers? You say it determines the "rate" of the pregressive travel, but what does that mean. Does it give you a stiffer suspension?
With the Revo, you have a progressive rate suspension... in other words, as the suspension compresses, it changes its shock/rebound rate... the P1's have relatively no progression... all the way to the P3's which have a HIGH progression.... So, to kind of explain it... as the suspension gets compressed, it is much lighter in the beginning, then it progressively gets stiffer... so, the P2's are a higher progression from P1's... which make it stiffer at the top of the suspension stroke... I run P2's with LT springs and 70wt oil... I can drop my Revo from my chest (~5') and it won't hit the skids on the ground.
Thanks Revofamily. That makes sense. I found 2 setup guides on the Traxxas website that go into pretty good detail of what to choose for what conditions, but they really don't define some of the concepts like this. I think I just need to pick up a set up p2 and p3 rockers and install them and see what I like. I have a spare set of p1's and the lt's that came with the truck. Do the stock pushrods work for p1 p2 and p3 rockers?
Old 01-24-2006, 09:51 PM
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alvinl,

The rockers set up the progressive travel of your suspension. Basically, if you watch your suspension closely (no, I'm not talking about chasing your truck down the track) you'll see how the rockers function.

When the suspension is fully extended (all the way out) and you begin suspension compression the shock piston moves slowly through the shock body. The more the suspension is compressed the faster the piston moves through the shock oil. This has the effect of being stiffening more and more as your suspension travels, due to oil viscosity and friction.

Which rocker you use determines the rate of the progressive travel.

... I'm confused, are you?
So, do the p2 rockers give you more suspension travel than the stock p1 rockers? You say it determines the "rate" of the pregressive travel, but what does that mean. Does it give you a stiffer suspension?
With the Revo, you have a progressive rate suspension... in other words, as the suspension compresses, it changes its shock/rebound rate... the P1's have relatively no progression... all the way to the P3's which have a HIGH progression.... So, to kind of explain it... as the suspension gets compressed, it is much lighter in the beginning, then it progressively gets stiffer... so, the P2's are a higher progression from P1's... which make it stiffer at the top of the suspension stroke... I run P2's with LT springs and 70wt oil... I can drop my Revo from my chest (~5') and it won't hit the skids on the ground.
Thanks Revofamily. That makes sense. I found 2 setup guides on the Traxxas website that go into pretty good detail of what to choose for what conditions, but they really don't define some of the concepts like this. I think I just need to pick up a set up p2 and p3 rockers and install them and see what I like. I have a spare set of p1's and the lt's that came with the truck. Do the stock pushrods work for p1 p2 and p3 rockers?
The stock pushrods work with LT and P1's... the P2's come with spacers to extend 'em... and the P3's require different pushrods
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Um.. I think he'd rather have a hobbyclass crawler.
the 1/6 is actually near hobby class.

unlike most other wally world specials, you can actually replace and upgrade parts
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alvinl,

Not necessarily stiffer suspension, but differences in the WAY the suspension reacts to compression.

Go here for more explanation: http://www.traxxas.com/support/index...cat=143&id=482
Old 01-24-2006, 10:19 PM
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Thunderbird, I am not going to spend 150 for that stupid crawler. I might as well spend that on my Revo.
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I feel traxaxs gives a bad explination on how the revo suspension works, Its not progressive at all.Try It move your tires through the travel youll feel it, The supenspension is super soft and feel like ther is no spring for the first part of the travel then It hits a point at about 1/3rd the way through the travel where it gets stiff.P1s have this point earlier in the travel, p2s have it about at 1/3rd of the way through and P3s dont have it untill there halfway through the travel.The LTs give full suspension action through the whole travel.
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ORIGINAL: mayhem maniac

Thunderbird, I am not going to spend 150 for that stupid crawler. I might as well spend that on my Revo.
it'll crawl better than a Revo

that and if you break it, take it back to wal mart and get another one, you won't have to pay to fix it

btw, they're goin for $80 now.
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alvinl,

Not necessarily stiffer suspension, but differences in the WAY the suspension reacts to compression.

Go here for more explanation: http://www.traxxas.com/support/index...cat=143&id=482
Thank SlowDriver. This is a pretty good article.
Old 01-24-2006, 11:40 PM
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I think i'll stick with my "mini revo" for crawling. Pictures shall be uploaded soon.

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