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imo the lightwheighty-ness of lipo's really isn't all there, they're not too much lighter than a 6 cell, but the power is all there for sure, they give you a royal kick in the pants, but yes it is sad they didn't release a flux version or maybe they will, that'd be nice and as for running a lipo in a stock slash i think the crappy motor is just killing any extra gains that the lipo would give to a quality power system...
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imo the lightwheighty-ness of lipo's really isn't all there, they're not too much lighter than a 6 cell, but the power is all there for sure, they give you a royal kick in the pants, but yes it is sad they didn't release a flux version or maybe they will, that'd be nice and as for running a lipo in a stock slash i think the crappy motor is just killing any extra gains that the lipo would give to a quality power system...
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When I saw the first advertisement for the 1/16 Slash VXL, I was like.....Woooo Hooo, a VXL slash, finally, then I realized it was 1/16?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! What the heck????? They have a Rustler VXL and a Bandit VXL and yet one of the most popular models right now is not available in a VXL.....certainly there is one coming along shortly.
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ORIGINAL: absolutemayhem
you guys are CRAZY...you all could have your flashlights...NITRO will be for the TURE r/c hobbist.
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yeah nitro needs to hit up the 4 stroke end of things... or else its done, and even then idk if it can save its self, while nitro is still very strong, electric is deff gunna wipe it out in 2-3 years...
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Well, look around you. The entire RC industry....boats, helos, planes, cars, buggies, monster trucks, etc are all moving back to or becoming electric for the first time. Love it or leave it, but it's here to stay, and once BL gets cheaper, it will be everywhere it isn't already. Unless nitro does something to step up to the plate, it will become the minority in the hobby within a couple of years. BL/lipo and budget friendly electric SC racing have been the ''shot in the arm'' the ''4 wheeled'' side of the hobby needed because nitro has stagnated.
Well, look around you. The entire RC industry....boats, helos, planes, cars, buggies, monster trucks, etc are all moving back to or becoming electric for the first time. Love it or leave it, but it's here to stay, and once BL gets cheaper, it will be everywhere it isn't already. Unless nitro does something to step up to the plate, it will become the minority in the hobby within a couple of years. BL/lipo and budget friendly electric SC racing have been the ''shot in the arm'' the ''4 wheeled'' side of the hobby needed because nitro has stagnated.
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you guys are CRAZY...you all could have your flashlights...NITRO will be for the TURE r/c hobbist.
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hear hear.
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When I saw the first advertisement for the 1/16 Slash VXL, I was like.....Woooo Hooo, a VXL slash, finally, then I realized it was 1/16?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! What the heck????? They have a Rustler VXL and a Bandit VXL and yet one of the most popular models right now is not available in a VXL.....certainly there is one coming along shortly.
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imo the lightwheighty-ness of lipo's really isn't all there, they're not too much lighter than a 6 cell, but the power is all there for sure, they give you a royal kick in the pants, but yes it is sad they didn't release a flux version or maybe they will, that'd be nice and as for running a lipo in a stock slash i think the crappy motor is just killing any extra gains that the lipo would give to a quality power system...
the lug
imo the lightwheighty-ness of lipo's really isn't all there, they're not too much lighter than a 6 cell, but the power is all there for sure, they give you a royal kick in the pants, but yes it is sad they didn't release a flux version or maybe they will, that'd be nice and as for running a lipo in a stock slash i think the crappy motor is just killing any extra gains that the lipo would give to a quality power system...
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When I saw the first advertisement for the 1/16 Slash VXL, I was like.....Woooo Hooo, a VXL slash, finally, then I realized it was 1/16?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! What the heck????? They have a Rustler VXL and a Bandit VXL and yet one of the most popular models right now is not available in a VXL.....certainly there is one coming along shortly.
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ahh but the mini slash has 4wd...
if you want a good handling powerful sc thats 4wd check out ofna's...
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if you want a good handling powerful sc thats 4wd check out ofna's...
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yeah they are a handful to control for sure, BL and LIPO really make you understand the phrase lighting up the tires...
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Nitro is on the way out....electric is ''in'' again if you didn't notice. lol
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Sucks that everyone is sticking to electric 1/10th scale... would love to see more 1/10th nitro options.
Sucks that everyone is sticking to electric 1/10th scale... would love to see more 1/10th nitro options.
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Yeah my friends's E-firestorm Fluxes (has a sidewinder/5700 combo) are pretty gnarly especially with grippy tires; easily flips over. Same with my Mamba Max/5700 in an XXX-T. I would imagine that a 5700 in the Blitz might be a bit less wheelie happy (maybe) because of the longer chassis, but it'll probably have less grip because the SCT tires are thinner than stadium truck tires.
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yeah they are a handful to control for sure, BL and LIPO really make you understand the phrase lighting up the tires...
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yeah they are a handful to control for sure, BL and LIPO really make you understand the phrase lighting up the tires...
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I too am glad to see HPI stepping up and producing a SC Truck. Variety and choice is always a nice thing to have. Something to fit the tastes of all really helps to keep the hobby strong. (Though it's too bad Losi's offering to the SC pool is ugly as sin, but hey beauty is in the eye of the beholder). I'd like to have one, but it's another case of too many wants, more needs, and not enough disposable income!
That out of the way..
RE: Nitro/Electric
Nitro has it's place and I think always will. I've enjoyed the nitro side of the house, to include Aircraft, Boats, and Cars. There is a draw to the sound of those little engines screaming along. There is a draw to learning how to tune them to that "Sweet Spot". I've had JUST as much fun with Electrics however.
But when people make silly comments to the tune of "Electrics are for kids and instant gratification, Nitro is where the Big Boys play"... Come on. Lets get real about this. Hobbies are about having fun in the way we each see fit. It's not about comparing the size of our "transmitters".
People just need to do what they enjoy the most and fudge all to everything else.
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Nitro has it's place and I think always will. I've enjoyed the nitro side of the house, to include Aircraft, Boats, and Cars. There is a draw to the sound of those little engines screaming along. There is a draw to learning how to tune them to that "Sweet Spot". I've had JUST as much fun with Electrics however.
But when people make silly comments to the tune of "Electrics are for kids and instant gratification, Nitro is where the Big Boys play"... Come on. Lets get real about this. Hobbies are about having fun in the way we each see fit. It's not about comparing the size of our "transmitters".
People just need to do what they enjoy the most and fudge all to everything else.
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good post ^^^
So all this nito /BL debating... What ya all think about this kit? Seeing as the slash is built on the pede/rustler platform it does not have a chance. I think is a solid offering from hpi thats ready to kill all the lil slaheys at the track. I wont get into the the other SC's as I know nothing about them. I do know the BL firestorm it was based off was not bad performer out of the box. I hpoe HPI does well with this new kit. my 2 cents
So all this nito /BL debating... What ya all think about this kit? Seeing as the slash is built on the pede/rustler platform it does not have a chance. I think is a solid offering from hpi thats ready to kill all the lil slaheys at the track. I wont get into the the other SC's as I know nothing about them. I do know the BL firestorm it was based off was not bad performer out of the box. I hpoe HPI does well with this new kit. my 2 cents
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I think the problem and potential for the failure of the Blitz is the late to market syndrome. Slash Spec classes are very popular, and VERY strict about what is let into them. So far at our local track all offerings in the SC class post Slash Release have been deemed illegal to run in that class. Now in the Open Electric Class you can run anything you want to but if you put anymore power through one of these little 2wd trucks than the stock 12T motors they come with they get really unstable and EXTREMELY hard to drive well real quick.
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This one has a 15 turn. I was just referring to the brushless firestorm. If you could drive it was not over powered by any means
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I should have clarified actually, that a HOT brushless set up in a SLASH would be Extremely difficult to race well. It all really depends on motor Kv and Battery Voltage, as well as gearing and diff set ups, so I should not have so broadly painted it as "BL" but more so as High Power Brushless.
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I should have clarified actually, that a HOT brushless set up in a SLASH would be Extremely difficult to race well. It all really depends on motor Kv and Battery Voltage, as well as gearing and diff set ups, so I should not have so broadly painted it as ''BL'' but more so as High Power Brushless.
I should have clarified actually, that a HOT brushless set up in a SLASH would be Extremely difficult to race well. It all really depends on motor Kv and Battery Voltage, as well as gearing and diff set ups, so I should not have so broadly painted it as ''BL'' but more so as High Power Brushless.
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My opinoin on SC. SC is just starting to take off, even as popular as it is now. Next year, it will be absolutely huge and more classes are going to open up. You'll see bone stock classes and unlimited BL classes. Bet the farm on it because there is a ton of money to be made in SC. It will be around for awhile. Look at rock crawling...nobody would've ever guessed it would get as big as it did and last as long as it has.
SC is the T Maxx of the early 2000s..................lots of RC newbs are getting their feet wet in SC, just like many got their feet wet with a T Maxx years prior. The cool part is how the "heavy hitter RC vets" are getting into SC too. Traxxas is behind this one too as they got the SC ball rolling. They must pay their R&D/marketing people big money, because they get the job done for sure. Ever watch a TORC race? Good stuff. SC is the "fresh start" our hobby needed.
One sweet pic of the Blitz courtesy of Big Squid......looks so scale!
SC is the T Maxx of the early 2000s..................lots of RC newbs are getting their feet wet in SC, just like many got their feet wet with a T Maxx years prior. The cool part is how the "heavy hitter RC vets" are getting into SC too. Traxxas is behind this one too as they got the SC ball rolling. They must pay their R&D/marketing people big money, because they get the job done for sure. Ever watch a TORC race? Good stuff. SC is the "fresh start" our hobby needed.
One sweet pic of the Blitz courtesy of Big Squid......looks so scale!
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I've been around this stuff since the RC ''revival'' of the mid 80s-1986 is when I first got into hobby-grade RCs. The ''true'' r/c hobbist is somebody that is into electric.....if you want to get into RC history. Electric is what we all ran. Nitro was around back in the day, but it was a niche at best unless you were into airplanes. Nitro didn't become ''big'' in the car/truck genre until the T Maxx came on the scene. Everybody else followed suit because the performance was superior to brushed motors and nimh packs. Nitro was also easier to maintain than brushed motors...no comms to cut-no brushes to change. Electric took a lot of work (and money) back before brushless was around, and nitro was a viable alternative that was in so many words, cheaper. But until the T Maxx came out, nobody knew how to successfully package and market nitro. Traxxas deserves all the credit for making nitro what it has become. Now nitro is on the decline due to the rapid popularity of the more powerful and just about maintenance-free brushless motors and lipo batteries. And manufacturers that have been riding the nitro wave are ready for the BL revolution with BL offerings. The writing was on the wall a year or so ago once people figured out how to use and charge lipo batteries without starting fires.....and anybody that knew anything about the hobby knew nitro was going to be on the way out at that point. I don't think you will ever see nitro as big as it has been ever again because electric is going to continue to get better and cheaper, and nitro will not be able to keep up in performance or price.
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HUH? I guess all the RC-10GT's, nitro rustlers/ stampedes 1/8th buggies and such were not first. The T-MAXX just brought "RTR nitro" to the masses. It in no way made nitro, it robbed the youth just coming into this hobby of the joy and reward of building a kit. Any of the older guys will attest to the great memory of building that first RC. Traxxas makes entry level products, they should be credited with bringing our hobby to the masses as they have. But to say they started the nitro trend? Check your facts.
Sorry to interrupt the thread currently in progress... BTW this looks like a killer truck. Can't wait to try one.
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yeah i really wish the kit scene was bigger, i loved building my savvy i was thinking about getting a t4 kit for my first truck but the RTR was just that much cheaper and had better stuff in the box but i may get a FT T4 anyways... or one of these if it comes out as a kit which i think it will.... XRC had something that hinted a kit...
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imo the lightwheighty-ness of lipo's really isn't all there, they're not too much lighter than a 6 cell, but the power is all there for sure, they give you a royal kick in the pants, but yes it is sad they didn't release a flux version or maybe they will, that'd be nice and as for running a lipo in a stock slash i think the crappy motor is just killing any extra gains that the lipo would give to a quality power system...
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imo the lightwheighty-ness of lipo's really isn't all there, they're not too much lighter than a 6 cell, but the power is all there for sure, they give you a royal kick in the pants, but yes it is sad they didn't release a flux version or maybe they will, that'd be nice and as for running a lipo in a stock slash i think the crappy motor is just killing any extra gains that the lipo would give to a quality power system...
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You could choose to buy a smaller lipo and it would have similar power, but less weight. BUT WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT. PPPPPPPOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWEEEEEEEERRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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imo the lightwheighty-ness of lipo's really isn't all there, they're not too much lighter than a 6 cell, but the power is all there for sure, they give you a royal kick in the pants, but yes it is sad they didn't release a flux version or maybe they will, that'd be nice and as for running a lipo in a stock slash i think the crappy motor is just killing any extra gains that the lipo would give to a quality power system...
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imo the lightwheighty-ness of lipo's really isn't all there, they're not too much lighter than a 6 cell, but the power is all there for sure, they give you a royal kick in the pants, but yes it is sad they didn't release a flux version or maybe they will, that'd be nice and as for running a lipo in a stock slash i think the crappy motor is just killing any extra gains that the lipo would give to a quality power system...
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the blitz ecs can handle 2S but no cutoff.... Rob from HPIBAJAFORUM has opened a biltz forum its has a few members ATM check it out if the blitz is your kinda thing
http://www.hpiblitzforum.com/index.php
http://www.hpiblitzforum.com/index.php
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HUH? I guess all the RC-10GT's, nitro rustlers/ stampedes 1/8th buggies and such were not first. The T-MAXX just brought ''RTR nitro'' to the masses. It in no way made nitro, it robbed the youth just coming into this hobby of the joy and reward of building a kit. Any of the older guys will attest to the great memory of building that first RC. Traxxas makes entry level products, they should be credited with bringing our hobby to the masses as they have. But to say they started the nitro trend? Check your facts.
HUH? I guess all the RC-10GT's, nitro rustlers/ stampedes 1/8th buggies and such were not first. The T-MAXX just brought ''RTR nitro'' to the masses. It in no way made nitro, it robbed the youth just coming into this hobby of the joy and reward of building a kit. Any of the older guys will attest to the great memory of building that first RC. Traxxas makes entry level products, they should be credited with bringing our hobby to the masses as they have. But to say they started the nitro trend? Check your facts.
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the blitz ecs can handle 2S but no cutoff.... Rob from HPIBAJAFORUM has opened a biltz forum its has a few members ATM check it out if the blitz is your kinda thing
http://www.hpiblitzforum.com/index.php
the blitz ecs can handle 2S but no cutoff.... Rob from HPIBAJAFORUM has opened a biltz forum its has a few members ATM check it out if the blitz is your kinda thing
http://www.hpiblitzforum.com/index.php
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I have been running both Nitro and BL lately....... We run on a very simple bashing style track... 180 foot straight, huge double jump.....very simple layout with very few corners...... IMO chassis capability matters alot more then wether your BL or Nitro...My Nitro Truggy absolutely smokes both a Flux 6S and a E-Revo 6S everywhere on our track.....The only thing the BL MT's can do slightly better is popping the jumps with no run up distance... But down the straight the Truggy absolutely owns the MT's, in the corners the Truggies kill, and landing the big jump the Truggies kill....... We also have been running a BL Truggy and Buggy and on the track we have they are no faster then then the Nitro's...We are running Tekin systems on both 4S and 5S.......... So IMO chassis capability matters alot more then whether your BL or Nitro...A Great Nitro chassis will own a mediocre BL chassis at least as far as track performance is concerned ..... so before you start bashing nitro look to step up your chassis capabilities first, as that makes a much bigger difference......If your Nitro experience is limited to a Savage with a Axial 32 you've only touched the tip of the iceberg on what Nitro is capable of
here is my buddies losi 8B on 5S
http://www.vimeo.com/6029238
here is my buddies losi 8B on 5S
http://www.vimeo.com/6029238