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Old 02-25-2008, 05:42 PM
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Screw the choke. Just use a heat gun to warm the cylinders up to about 80c. Then go to a medium idle and flip. Should start pretty quick if there's gas in the line. Since everyone was re-inventing the wheel I thought I'd toss another method into the pot
Old 02-25-2008, 06:39 PM
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Pat, lol.

Yeah Gary, you've been doing this lots longer than me. I'm sure I'll have a new story next year after I learn a few things.
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Another hint is to stop the engine using the choke. Next start will be very straightforward.
It gets the engine well wetted inside, and oil will flow in even the most remote corners.
Old 02-26-2008, 10:06 AM
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Another hint is to stop the engine using the choke. Next start will be very straightforward.
It gets the engine well wetted inside, and oil will flow in even the most remote corners.
This works. I have started putting my chokes on a transmitter switch to make this easier, with great results. I never was comfortable with running the engines dry to stop anyway. Just seems like it would be hard on them.
Old 02-26-2008, 04:15 PM
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It's one thing I leaned here on RCU from lumberjacks who worked chain saws for years.
Not many of those in Holland i'm afraid.
I did the test of course, and results surpassed my expectations. The idle can be set much leaner, yet starting will be as if set richer, probably all due to the reduced oil viscosity as it is diluted by some fresh gas that is not used up as the engine is stopped.

For gas it is a blessing. For glow engines not. The methanol would attract moisture and thus ruin every corrodable metal part inside.
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Interesting, I'll have to start shutting my engines down with choke instead of the tx throttle cut. I'm all for easier starts.
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Awww, what the heck.... one thing that **I** have learned, is that if it's 100* + outside, with some humidity (45%+) and you do that "shutdown with choke" thing, you WILL end up with an incredibly-hard-to-start perfectly adjusted engine.

I thought maybe it was me, when I was playing with this choke-shutdown deal..... so repeated it with a different engine/plane setup.

My almost-torn rotator cuff proved it not to be the best setup for me. At least when it is H-O-T.
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It can at times leave a nice little pool of fluid in the plug of an inverted single Works just fine for opposed twins though.
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Most of my engines are inverted singles. I rarely fuel and go right back up. Perhaps this is why I don't seem to have a problem. Not sure.
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Default RE: starting with the choke on?

I will frequently fly again within 10-45mins... by then I just fill up and go.. no choke needed. She will usually fire up on first or 2nd flip non choked.
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I will frequently fly again within 10-45mins... by then I just fill up and go.. no choke needed. She will usually fire up on first or 2nd flip non choked.
This is also my experience most of the time. After the first 'cold' start, no choke is needed.
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Yup. My almost-killed-rotator was from "choke-killing" the engine, then filling and trying to fly again, really soon.... it wasn't pretty. But lesson learned for me, and that's what counts, I suppose.
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Much depends on your idle setting Bob. With a lean idle, choke-killing won't hurt and prepares the engine better for the next start.
Your experience just serves to show that there ain't no hard rules in this game. The moment you think you got one, some bloke raises his hand and says nay
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Now THAT is absolutely the fact....
Lotsa variables
Few fixed elements
Many perceptions
Little data....

Love it, don't you???
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Default RE: starting with the choke on?

Ive got a zenoha g62 that just wont start I flip an flip Ive tryed the choke till it burp an then open an try but nothing any ideas?
Old 03-04-2008, 08:45 PM
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Ive got a zenoha g62 that just wont start I flip an flip Ive tryed the choke till it burp an then open an try but nothing any ideas?
Mount the prop like it says in the instruction book and flip it like you mean it[>:]
OR give us a call at CH Electronics we have multipul answers

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