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Old 12-24-2004, 01:38 PM
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Default ZDZ 80 or F.P.E. 5.8

I have a H-9 Sukhoi that needs a engine my choices are the following a ZDZ 80 or an FPE 5.8 the ZDZ is 1 and a half pound lighter than the FPE and revs 2000 rpms more.

I'm looking for regular acrobatic flying and probably some 3D

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Old 12-24-2004, 02:46 PM
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Default RE: ZDZ 80 or F.P.E. 5.8

No brainer, zdz 80 is an awesome combo on the H9 33% anything.
Old 12-24-2004, 04:14 PM
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Default RE: ZDZ 80 or F.P.E. 5.8

ZDZ is the only way to go ,a fellow flyer at my club bought a FPE it had problems . Also the c s was not too great
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Default RE: ZDZ 80 or F.P.E. 5.8

ZDZ hands down
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Default RE: ZDZ 80 or F.P.E. 5.8

I guess no coments on the FPE.
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Default RE: ZDZ 80 or F.P.E. 5.8

The FPE is also a full cubic inch bigger that the ZDZ. The FPE is actually 95cc. Which nearly puts it in the class with the big 100's. I say for a H9 bird get a ZDZ or BME. DA is good, but the ZDZ and BME will yeild a 2 pound lighter plane. That is really the only two engines for a H9 plane, period.
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Default RE: ZDZ 80 or F.P.E. 5.8

I had a friend that had a ZDZ 80 in his Sukhoi and with the pound of lead he had to add to the nose ,it was 27 pounds. Mine with a BME 100 is 26. I would go with the ZDZ also, but you will need some weight up front. He had no unnessisary weight in the plane. FPE engines run great I have a 3.2 that I am pleased with.

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My sukhoi with a GT-80 only weighed 26. It now weighs 24 lbs and 13oz with the DA-100. A buddy of mines weighs 23 with a BME 110. He has 6 oz of weight to balance but those will soon come off as he thinks it is too nose heavy. These sound like some heavy planes. Of course I have been hearing recently of up to 2 lbs variations between the sukhois and more than that between the late modle extras.
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Default RE: ZDZ 80 or F.P.E. 5.8

So I can assume is that the ZDZ80 has more torque than the FPE. The FPE weighs 1 and a half more than the ZDZ but I will probably will have to add about 9oz if I go with the ZDZ.

What about servos?

thanks for all the good info and help.
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Default RE: ZDZ 80 or F.P.E. 5.8

If he had to add any weight to that plane than he didn't arrange things properly. I have seen at least 3 H9 sukhois w zdz80s with out any added weight.

Joe

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I had a friend that had a ZDZ 80 in his Sukhoi and with the pound of lead he had to add to the nose ,it was 27 pounds. Mine with a BME 100 is 26. I would go with the ZDZ also, but you will need some weight up front. He had no unnessisary weight in the plane. FPE engines run great I have a 3.2 that I am pleased with.

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Default RE: ZDZ 80 or F.P.E. 5.8

If you build the plane with pull pull rudder and arrange your components you wont have to add any weight w a zdz80. If you want to add nose weight then get a da100.

Joe

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So I can assume is that the ZDZ80 has more torque than the FPE. The FPE weighs 1 and a half more than the ZDZ but I will probably will have to add about 9oz if I go with the ZDZ.

What about servos?

thanks for all the good info and help.
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Default RE: ZDZ 80 or F.P.E. 5.8

Hey JBrannon, That got me to thinking and he didn't have a P/P rudder. Mine does though. I had forgot that. I tried to get him to do that, but he didn't want to mess with it.
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Default RE: ZDZ 80 or F.P.E. 5.8

My H9 Sukhoi uses a ZDZ 80 and weight 23.5 lbs. Awesome combo! ZDZ hands down.

Ryan
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Default RE: ZDZ 80 or F.P.E. 5.8

Ryans,
You offered me some pics of your set up a while back, well I'm ready to build now and the ZDZ will be going in.

Thanks for all your help


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I'll get some pics posetd tonight.

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Default RE: ZDZ 80 or F.P.E. 5.8

The zdz80 is a great engine for the sukhoi but we have two a hanger9 sukhoi and extra with the FPE 5.8 . They both balance with no added wt. As for as power I dont no how much if any differnts in the two. We have a zdz80 but we havent put it in anything yet.
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Default RE: ZDZ 80 or F.P.E. 5.8

My SU-31 was setup 22.6 lb. with a 3w 100 toc, pull pull rud. great flyin plane
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Default RE: ZDZ 80 or F.P.E. 5.8

Man my scales must be way off, with the weights you guys are getting. I have Cabon Gear and tube, no pants and holes drilled every and lithiums. But It was a digital fish scale. I hear they aren't very accurite. But according to my (off) scales I took right at two pounds off my plane. TBM website, good info

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Default RE: ZDZ 80 or F.P.E. 5.8

Fish scales are uberaccurate. Bathroom scales are a wild stab in the dark

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