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Old 09-03-2003, 09:02 PM
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I am looking for a scale WWII twin engine plane , be it a kit or a nice ARF, to build in the coming winter. I am looking for something about 8-16 pounds and having a wing span greater than 50 inches. It must be WWII but i dont care what nation its from. I am hoping to spend no more than $400 on just the plane itself with no engines. It must have working retracts. I must also be able to purchase this via internet. I have been off my trainer for 5 months, been flying a sport plane now and a scale p-47 which i love, but my fascination has always been with the multi engine craft. So i want to build one with which to fly in the next spring and summer. Im very aware of the differences between them and single engine planes so you dont have to tell me to learn. Anyway this is really opinion so post what you think would be a nice acquisition for me. I have 6 years modeling skills under my belt so complication is not really an issue, i just dont want anything overly complicated as well if you know what i mean. It must fly as good as it looks. I dont want to be stuck with a fancy paper weight, door stop, etc.... after im done because it flys like a brick. I want what ever it is i end up getting to be the flagship of my growing collection. Anyway thanks for your help. Feel free to post any questions i will be checking this often and hoping to make a purchase in the next 1-2 months.

Oh and dont worry i dont plan on flying this as my first twin what ever it may be, going to co-pilot, then pilot a twin a good friend has very soon.
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Top Flight DC-3

All American Kit Cutters cut a P-38
http://www.aero-sports.com/aakc/index.html
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Sturmovik:

If it has to be a WW II plane, the best two I know of, considering flight characteristics, are the Douglas A-26 Invader and the Northrop P-61 Black Widow. Considering looks, to me there's no contest, it's the A-26.

The DC-3, as a C-47, was a warbird but its flight characteristics leave a lot to be desired for a low time twin flier.

If you never lose an engine almost any will do fine. But engines do quit.

My personal favorite is the Grumman F-7F3 or F-7F4 Tigercat. I think it's the prettiest of the lot. But it's not a novice's airplane.

Bill.

PS: Here's the A-26.
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OOOO MY who sells a A=26 kit???

Plz post links if u can

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Morris Hobbies has an ARF A-26:
http://morrishobbies.com/product_inf...4f11b99781524f
Wing Mfg has a short kit for the A-26: http://www.wingmfg.com/Pages/WingA26.html
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Troy:

Look at this one and drool while I see if I can find the source.

I have some pictures of the full scale plane also, if you are interested.

Bill.
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Troy:

http://www.wingmfg.com/Pages/WingA26.html

Specifications (as tested) Wing Span 68"
Length 54"
Wing Area 748 sq.in.
Dry Weight

less flaps & retracts
7 1/2 lbs.
Dry weight

w/flaps & retracts)
10 lbs.
Stab Area 152 sq.in.
Airfoil Fully symmetrical
Scale 1-1/4"= 1'
Engine Size: Two stroke

.25 - .50

# of Channels 4-6
Construction Information Wings Foam core with balsa sheeting
Fuselage Balsa box inner frame. With molded wing fairings and ABS molded cowls.
Tail Flat 1/4" balsa sheet
Flaps Full with details on plans
Landing Gear Fixed (retracts optional)
Building Time Frame up - 10 Hrs
Finish - 50 Hrs. average

Building Experience Intermediate

And here's a picture of, well, I wont say who, actually flying in the A-26 "Hard to Get."
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Old 09-03-2003, 11:21 PM
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So that pic of the A-26 you posted, the "Hard to Get" was a wing mfg kit you basically modified? If so, what did you use it does look very very good as im sure you know. Thats the "type" of plane i am looking for. How does she fly?
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LOL william thats funny stuff i bookmarked the website have to finish my duelist.

Thanks for the help

Thanks
Troy
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Sturmovik:

Wing kit yes, but not my plane.

It flies very nicely. The engines aren't too far out on the wings, and it has a fairly long tail moment with a large vertical fin. This makes it just about the easiest warbird twin to fly engine out. Not quite a trainer, but close to it.

Build it light it will almost go vertical indefinitely with a hot pair of 46 engines.

It's large enough to go as far with scale details as you want, and yet not so large as to be hard to carry and store.

And if you get the short kit it's an easy plane to build.

The Spring-Air retracts that fit the VQ ARF A-26 from Morris also fit the Wing Mfg. plane.

Bill

PS: This picture is full scale. wr.
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Old 09-03-2003, 11:58 PM
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Do you happen to know the type of covering used on the "Hard To Get" A-26? Im also looking at this B-17 on the wing mfg site as well, not to fly for awhile since i really want to fly twins but for just a show off peice so to speak heh. My personal favorite bomber of any war. Is the wing mfg site shutting down, or is that just a rumor, and if it is, should i act a little faster than 2 months or you think i will be safe? Too bad if they are, their models look very top notch for the price.
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Sturm und Drang:

If you want it, get it now. That way, if they do shut down next month you'll have it. Ever hear "He who hesitates is lost?"

The model is covered with light weight glass, as I remember, and I think I was told West Systems resins.

Bill.
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Wing was bought by a MI couple and are just getting up and going I belive i bumped into them in FEB at a swap shop and the were moving things to MI I hope things are going well.

Just my .02 for whats its worth

Thanks
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Default Re: A-26 kit

Originally posted by William Robison
Troy:

Look at this one and drool while I see if I can find the source.

I have some pictures of the full scale plane also, if you are interested.

Bill.
are those flying props or static, if flying what and where do you get them
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F2B:

In the picture were static props. But very similar flying props are available, metal hub with wooden blades, adjustable pitch. Look at the mag ads, you see them every other month or so. Hubs about $130, and the blades roughly $20 each - $60 for three.

Zinger also sells three and four bladed wooden props with a metal hub. You can't reset the pitch, but with the three blade props selling at $20 to $35 you can buy several before you get to the price of the others. And the hubs don't look scale. They're fine on a scale plane that used spinners. Wouldn't look so good on the A-26.

If I spot the other maker's ad I'll post it.

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Sturmovik if you will go to davenports web page and look at the gallery you will find my A-26. If you look close enough at the left engine you will notice that it has a broken prop. Just lander a little hard and broke it. Otherwise she flys like a dart and will keep up with the 1/4 scale planes. She has TT42 on her and seperate servos for the throttle also bombay doors flaps and beaken lights on the wing tips. Cowel were done in a/c ducktape over the abs plastic. If you get one note on te plans that the nose gear sets too low and you should add about 1and a 1/2 inches to the lenth of the wire. Other wise she will litterly jump off the ground when you go to take off. With the gear extended she will rotate like a big bird and look so good you wont believe it.
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Do you happen to know the type of covering used on the "Hard To Get" A-26? Im also looking at this B-17 on the wing mfg site as well, not to fly for awhile since i really want to fly twins but for just a show off peice so to speak heh. My personal favorite bomber of any war. Is the wing mfg site shutting down, or is that just a rumor, and if it is, should i act a little faster than 2 months or you think i will be safe? Too bad if they are, their models look very top notch for the price.
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Sorry about that the web site is www.davenportrc.org/
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nchrome:

Found your gallery on Davenport.

I very much liked the B-25 fly-by.

But I didn't find any version of the B-26, or the A-26.

Bill.
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think i found his A-26, has no top turret but as far as i can tell its an A-26,

http://www.davenportrc.org/imglib/scale03/06220006.jpg
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Sturm:

That is indeed an A-26. But in his post he mentioned a broken prop - I found a broken prop picture and it was on a B-25.

I've not worked my way to that A-26 you found.

Bill.
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Default RE: WWII Twin Engine Project Suggestions?

A-26 is indeed beautiful. But what I'd really like to get my hands on is a DeHavilland Misquito. I love the way that bird looks. Plus, the full scale one was made with balsa, so it would make a perfect model!
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Bob Holman plans has plans and parts for the Taylor Mosquito in 72" and 80" sizes. I think he also has some stuff for a bigger one but I am not sure.
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Default RE: WWII Twin Engine Project Suggestions?

You should also consider the Marutaka (used to be marketed as 'Royal' kits) B-25 which can be ordered on the internet from Hobby Barn. They also have a B-17.


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