Cool_cris27

Ok so im saving up on an on road car kit so this what i think im getting by any means necessary please let me know if i should change something or comment concerns suggestions please let me know i am on a small budget but here it is.

Battery, charger, connector, servo
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wto0149p

Chassis and Motor with ESC combo
http://www.activepowersports.com/cart.php
Ofna - 34720 JL-10 1/10 GT Sedan
Team Associated Electrics - ASC965 - 965 XP SC700-BL ESC/Reedy 540-SL 3300kV

and for the transmitter and receiver
http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/380747872969?lpid=82
Please warn if something wont work or fit on this chassis before i order all this stuff the one is the pinion gear I don"t know how many teeth i should put on it but i put 16T what do you guys think? Suggestions please let me know.

Foxy

Well, I can't speak for your choices of battery, charger, connector and servo, since you can't link your own Tower Hobbies shopping cart to others. when people hit that link, they will see their own Tower Hobbies shopping cart.

The rest of the stuff is well chosen budget gear that works well. The JL10 is a very good car, the FS GT3B is a decent radio, and the Reedy combo is ok, but you may find down the line that you want a sensored setup for drifting, the low speed control with a sensor is much, much better.

Cool_cris27

my bad what i got at tower hobbies was this
Battery: http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXAAGG&P=ML
Connector: http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXNGB6&P=7
Pinion gear for motor: http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LX3089&P=7
I already have a charger for the battery so yeah...oh and the servo
Servo: http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXUK84&P=ML

And you think it will fit nice and snug on this chassis all this stuff?

Also What motor would you recomend then?

Foxy

For motor and ESC I'd probably go with these on a budget... http://www.hobbypartz.com/07e-combo-js2.html it's sensored, and I think it's probably better than that Reedy combo even if it wasn't, but sensored is what will make the difference, nice and smooth for drifting.

Pinion looks fine. Servo is beyond crap, get this one... http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXUZ87&P=ML

I'd also go for a lipo battery and charger...
Battery (cheaper and much much more powerful than the duratrax nimh) - http://www.hobbypartz.com/98p-25c-40...-hardcase.html
Charger - http://www.hobbypartz.com/thac6smbachw.html
For both the battery and the charger, you will need a set of Deans plugs. Don't use adapters, have someone solder them for you. Put the Male on the ESC and charger and the Female on the battery.

You can also buy the radio from this shop to save on delivery... http://www.hobbypartz.com/79p-gt3b-carradio-lcd.html

Cool_cris27

Awesome thanks i laughed at what you said at the server i was just looking for a cheap one lol thank you so much looking forward to build ill post a thread of my final product

Foxy

Welcome bud.

Foxy

I almost forgot, get one of these to use with the battery... http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXVJU7&P=ML

The plug supplied with the battery includes the balance lead, which is not needed when being used in the car, better to keep that one with your charger. But you will still need someone to solder a Deans plug onto it for you.

Of course it goes without saying, be careful with this kind of battery, and always put the red in the plus and the black in the minus. The ESC will burn if you get it wrong (in most cases, some ESCs have reverse polarity protection, but not all!)

Cool_cris27

is there a different battery lipo that i could use where i dont have to solder it kind of confusing....

Foxy

Not that I know of buddy, well, not unless you want to pay a lot more for a brand name battery that's supplied with Deans on it, but that still won't help you with the charger. You have to accept a little compromise for these kinds of prices, soldering connectors is a very small price to pay. I bet your LHS would do it for you without a problem, they may charge you a few bucks (or not if you buy the plugs from them?), but you'll only have to do it once. Buy the battery cable I linked above, then at least you only have to worry about the charge/balance lead and charger lead. This is a hobby, you're not buying boxed toys, you have to expect this kind of thing from time to time.

R32GolfTA06

All looks ok, however you may find the sensorless is noisy and suffers from coggiing and is a little jumpy, the sensored is much smoother as I explained in your other thread.

Cool_cris27

Ok guys i came up with a new setup as for motor and battery and esc foxy i was looking at the motor that you showed me but i think i like this one better heres the link to things im going to change

Motor ESC combo:
http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...FWxo7Aod8RIACg

Battery:
http://www.hobbypartz.com/98p-25c-40...se-direct.html

same charger as before do i still have to solder?

and i need a connector for the batter to the esc and it was hard to find but i did find one
http://www.hobbypartz.com/83p-banana-tamiya-cable.html

It out of stock but i saw a couple on ebay and some other websites so what do you think?

Cool_cris27

Correction i put the wrong connector this is the one
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXVJU6&P=FR

Foxy

That's the same battery, as for the esc and motor, the one at amainhobbies is significantly slower. I'm not a pro drifter, I've dabbled here and there, but I would think you'd want more wheel speed available than a 17.5t. Assuming you are fine with that motor, again which set is better is down to application. I doubt there's much to choose between them in the performance stakes, so it then comes down to which is lighter. I haven't looked at the weight numbers for either set, but you might want to.

Yes, you will still need to solder Deans onto the battery and the charger lead.

Why do you want that connector? The Tamiya connector is not suitable for lipo and brushless use, it cannot carry enough current. If you ever set the car up for normal grip running by putting rubber tires on it, the connector will melt. I also don't know what connector is on either of the ESCs, so be prepared for the fact that you may need at least two sets of male and female Deans plugs. As I say, the need to change the plugs on what you buy is not considered something unusual in the hobby, and it is something you should get used to doing. Get yourself a cheap soldering iron and watch some youtube videos, it really is easy.

Cool_cris27

ok i was looking and i like the motor you gave me instead and i have a solder machine i solder here and there but what exactly am i soldering??

Cool_cris27

Ok so i have an idea i want to get the 1/10 2.4Ghz Exceed RC Electric DriftStar RTR Drift Car 350 Green Version (RTR)
and full fully modify it like change motor and esc and this like that. So what would be a good drift car motor to upgrade on this and and esc like a combo or something and what battery should i run?

SyCo_VeNoM

umm no idea on that vehicle (exceeds are not popular around here) but to my understanding you do not need a fast motor to drift, just very hard tires that have almost no grip (some people use PVC pipe as cheap drift tires from my understanding)

Cool_cris27

do you know a drift car that i can upgrade thats cheap like what can i get rtr and what motor and esc should i put in it? and battery and charger.

SyCo_VeNoM

chargers easy(foxy already recommended the one I would in your other thread), battery will depend on the vehicle battery compartment dimensions, and nope don't know of RC drift cars as that is one aspect that hasn't interested me enough to warrant doing any in dept info gathering

R32GolfTA06

I have an overlander 4250 2s lipo and overlander rc6 vps charger/discharger/balancer.. They are probably the best all round battery and charger on the market at the moment. And not particular expensive either

The company Modelsport here in the uk is a great company and will do all the soldering etc for free so when you get your items they are ready to go out of the box

9five9

If you want a cheap car that's rtr, the HPI E10 drift would be good, though it's very entry level. Most entry level drift cars are going to be fairly equal. If you want a kit, the Tamiya TT-01d is a good start, but you'll need a transmitter and servos.

SyCo_VeNoM

E10 is junk I'd go exceed over it personally
needs too much work to not snap a chassis from the motors power alone.

nitrosportsandrunner

I don't love the TT-01, but I would take it over a E10 any day!
E10 is just a terrible design. almost every part needs to be upgraded.

Info on the exceed. Ive owned the redcat lightning (same thing)
what you get is a OK chassis and driveline, average 27t brushed motor and piss poor brushed speed controller. It will work for drifting, but isn't that fast and the ESC cannot handle a motor or battery upgrade. so if you did want more speed you would have to buy a battery, motor and esc all at once.
OK for the money, fun to run as is. not that much upgrade potential or aftermarket support.

And you will notice the difference in quality is reflected in price. A Tamiya kit will run $140 min compared to a RTR exceed or redcat car at $120 RTR. with the Tamiya you will need a radio and receiver ($30 at least) a servo ($15) and a battery ($30) and a charger if you don't have one already ($50)

Also, do you want a car that slides sideways, or a car that really drifts? Before buying, look into the difference between a normal onroad drift car and a countersteer drift car. A counter steer car in short spins its rear tires faster than the front. This creates more realistic, longer and more controlled drifts. Some RTR belt drive cars can be converted to CS, and there are some kits for $120-$130 that come setup as CS and just require electronics.

so, basic options are a Tamiya TT-01, TL-01, Team associated TC3 (not made anymore, but used ones are not hard to find) or look into a CS car. Again, the exceed or redcat drift car are OK options. You just wont be getting as good electronics and wont have as easy a time upgrading the car later on.

Cool_cris27

ok so this is what came up with
OFNA JL10 1/10 scale drift car chassis
Venom 20C 2S 4000mAh 7.4V LiPO Hard Case
Charger: Easy Balance AC LiPO Charger from venom
FlySky FS-GT3B Digital 3ch 2.4ghz TX & RX LCD Transmitter & Receiver
Team Associated Electrics - ASC966 - 966 XP SC700-BL ESC/Reedy 540-SL 3900kV
and for the pinion im using a 48p 17T pinion gear
and for the servo im going to use this one that i found cost like 20 bucks but it will work.

nitrosportsandrunner

Id go with a Imex B6 or a thunder AC6 charger ($5 more) over the venom. More features, LCD readout, 5amps max charge, 1-6cell lipo and NIMH charger.
I would get a Ezrun 35 or 60amp ESC and motor combo. The ezrun has adjustable punch, timing and braking settings...which may help in making a car drift easier. You don't want the brakes or the initial throttle too strong or too weak.
I don't know anything about that ofna model, but many ofna's are built tough.
That lipo is OK. venom's lipos are much better than their NIMH packs were. But Id still get a skylipo or gens ace 2s 5000mah 30c pack off hobbyparts for $30-$35.
I have the FS-GT3c....just got it a week ago and love it.
I find used team associated servos on ebay for $10-$15 all the time (the one that is stock from a SC10) they last long and are fairly quick servos.

phmaximus

Drift cars are tricky....
Generally any car can drift......
It really depends on where u plan to run it...
if u are mainly planing to drift in carpark lots I would recommend anything shaft driven like the tt01.... But I wouldn't recommend using a belt driven chassis for that... All it takes is a little rock to end the day.

The only belt driven car that I would recommend for that would be the tamiya XV-01, because it has in closed belts...

if u plan to use it at the track or very clean surfaces then defiantly check out some of the other belt driven chassis out there and even the more dedicated drift chassis with the motor up front.

The die hard drift chassis are awesome, the drift angles they can hold is amazing.... A tt01 would only dream of drifting that well on a track.

personally I wouldn't even worry about counter steer drifting. It requires a crazy amount of skill and great knowledge of setting up drift cars...it's very hard to CS drift

my recommendation would be the Tamiya XV01 pro... It will preform and drift better than any shaft driven chassis and would have a good chance against some of the other belt driven chassis. The best part about the XV01 is u can drift anywhere and don't have to worry about dirt, rocks, water dust.... Anything really

oh yeah it can do one thing.... And it's the best in its class....... Drift like a king on dirt or loose gravel. Because it has the motor up front it pivots on the front wheels... Kind of like a slot car or a front wheel drive RC car, but without the under steer.

IMO it would make the best bash/rally/drift car for durability and versatility out on today's market