Giles202 - 35% Engine question
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Giles202 - 35% Engine question
Hey guys, just put my order in for the Giles202. With all the engine choices, thought I'd get a feel from the crowd on the following list of options.
BME 110 or 105
DA 100
ZDZ 85
3W 75
I know each has it's peculiarities and would personally like to get into a twin (unless I"m convinced otherwise)
I'm leaning towards the BME for weight savings, however would like to hear from those using these motors with regards to performance, etc...
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BME 110 or 105
DA 100
ZDZ 85
3W 75
I know each has it's peculiarities and would personally like to get into a twin (unless I"m convinced otherwise)
I'm leaning towards the BME for weight savings, however would like to hear from those using these motors with regards to performance, etc...
Thanks
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RE: Giles202 - 35% Engine question
Personally I think a 100 twin is way too much engine for a plane this size. I have one with a ZDZ80 single and it has more than enough power to do what ever you want. Going with a twin is fine if you plan to move up to a larger plane and don't want to buy another engine but for the money/power/weight, you can't beat the ZDZ80.
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RE: Giles202 - 35% Engine question
Although I haven't thought of it that way a 100 or 110 twin would segway nicely into a larger plane down the road. My primary interest in a twin is the smoothness of a twin as well as being my first twin.
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RE: Giles202 - 35% Engine question
From another perspective.
Although a 70 to 85cc engine will fly the plane just fine, and still have enough power for most 3D, the larger engines provide enough power to permit any maneuvers possible. Power management does become an issue, since the plane will have more than adaquate power with any engine over 85cc's. You would not use full throttle very often very often.
Should you elect to move up to a larger plane later, you will already have an engine for it.
The larger competition aerobats are, for the most part, proportionately over powered with the 150 and 200cc engines. Again, throttle management is used to prevent over speeding the planes.
I agree completely with Tom on the engine size choices. I have a 105cc twin on my 202 for the same reasons noted above.
Although a 70 to 85cc engine will fly the plane just fine, and still have enough power for most 3D, the larger engines provide enough power to permit any maneuvers possible. Power management does become an issue, since the plane will have more than adaquate power with any engine over 85cc's. You would not use full throttle very often very often.
Should you elect to move up to a larger plane later, you will already have an engine for it.
The larger competition aerobats are, for the most part, proportionately over powered with the 150 and 200cc engines. Again, throttle management is used to prevent over speeding the planes.
I agree completely with Tom on the engine size choices. I have a 105cc twin on my 202 for the same reasons noted above.
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RE: Giles202 - 35% Engine question
Great perspective....
On the question of noise, is there enough room in the 202 to fit a pair of cannister mufflers? I was looking at the pictures on the WH site, looks like there should be enough room on the firewall under the engine box. However not sure if there is any structure compromise.
Thanks again...
On the question of noise, is there enough room in the 202 to fit a pair of cannister mufflers? I was looking at the pictures on the WH site, looks like there should be enough room on the firewall under the engine box. However not sure if there is any structure compromise.
Thanks again...
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RE: Giles202 - 35% Engine question
Plenty of room for 2 canisters. Wild Hare makes a 2.5" x 10" canister, front in/front out, that will fit nicely. We also have a compatible mount.
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RE: Giles202 - 35% Engine question
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ZDZ has an 85 now?
My personal perference is BME because of weight and power. Either engine is plenty for the Giles, 105 or 110.
TF
ZDZ has an 85 now?
My personal perference is BME because of weight and power. Either engine is plenty for the Giles, 105 or 110.
TF
If it were me, I would listen to the designer of this plane.
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RE: Giles202 - 35% Engine question
For informational purposes only, the use of a heavier 100cc plus twin permits the owner to make some choices in the servo installations. With a heavier twin, you may be able to consider using two rudder servos mounted in the tail instead of a pull-pull arrangement should you not like them. Make no mistake, the plane does not by any means need a double servo installation.
I still recommend the pull-pull with a single strong servo, but you will have a choice if desired.
Pat
reason for edit, meant to say heavier, not lighter twin.
I still recommend the pull-pull with a single strong servo, but you will have a choice if desired.
Pat
reason for edit, meant to say heavier, not lighter twin.