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Old 08-14-2002, 03:18 PM
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When you said you used Windex what did you mean exactly. I was putting checks on the TopCap this morning and was sucking at it. Then I rembered your thread. I sprayed the wing down and laid my checks on it. Do you let it dry like I do with adhesives (stickers and stuff) or do you lay it down, smooth it out and hit it with the iron? Just curious.
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Billy,

Use the windex or soapy water to position the top layer. Squeege out the bubbles and let it sit for about 20 mins. No heat is needed. (If you want, you can seal the edges with low heat.)
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I've Monokoted a million planes, and haven't tried Windex yet (but I'm going to!). So the Windex will actually make it stick like a low grade trim solvent?? Or is it just kinda sucked down..I guess it must be stuck..just seems too easy!!
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I've seen this one before, and I have to agree with CAuger, seems too easy. My fear would be even if the trim lasted through the first day of flying, when I go to clean it with Windex, oh darn, the trim is releasing.
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I do this with anything that is sticky. The catch there is it is already sticky but I trust gator. I would assume if you wanted to you could just let it dry then hit it with the iron for safety.
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Yeah it works Jeff. I tried it on a GP GeeBee for the "scallops" and was amazed. I let it dry overnight then touched it lightly with a trim seal iron. Stayed on till it hit terra firma! (about a year)

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We gonna fight this weekend??
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I'd go over it with a low iron just to be sure. Yeah, I always use Windex for decals, same technique, but the decal adhesive is sticky already. With MonKote trim details, like letters and numbers, I've been using the woodpecker to create tiny holes to let the trapped gas out. This technique might have some merit. I should try a star just for kicks on a beater plane, just to see what happens.
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Nah... I have obligations. I have 2 Raptors ready but doubt they would make the whole meet. I'll just hang out here in East Texas and do some fun-flying.
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Here is one I covered using the "Windex" method.
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Woodman, I laughed so hard when I took a closer look at that pic, but I guess the remaining black checkers are still holding on. Just too bad they didn't hold the plane together for you a bit better. Excellent.
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Originally posted by ChuckAuger
just seems too easy!!
It really is that easy.

I used this method for all the monokote over monokote on this one.
No heat at all. I have never had an edge come up.
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what about your nooks and crannies ?
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Originally posted by Billy Hell
what about your nooks and crannies ?
Ok, a little heat in the hinge lines......thats it.
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Ha! Yeah those 100mph T-Bones are Billy Hell on planes! It survived the first mid-air of the heat but the second one....well you saw the photo! (Sorry Mr. Billy, please dont sue me for slander)

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Originally posted by Billy Hell
what about your nooks and crannies ?
Hey now! Let's not start getting personal here!
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hey guys , windex method doesn't need heat. just spay it on the back of your covering, or the peice you going to lay the coverning on, place your covering down where you want it, squeegy the windex out form underneath with an old credit card. I let it sit overnight, however, if your doing a checkered board would take to long so I workwith it while prevous peices are drying. I come back a few days later and seal the edges with monokote trim solvent. I appy this with a Q-tip around the edges . I will use heat around egdes like LE and TEs, after the windex is long dry'd
This method will not work with ultracote, but ultracote irons ok over its self with low heat.....good luck, you'll be kicken yourself in the ***** when you see how easy windex makes it....Gator
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Originally posted by termagator
This method will not work with ultracote
Sure it does.... Needs to be Ultracote Plus though.
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never tried Ultracote plus. Tried sticking some lettering with ultracote useing windex and it curled on me, may have to give plus a try. will it iron on over itself without blistering?...G
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Yes,
The Plus acts more like Monokote when going over itself. Whether that be with low heat or windex.
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hmmmm. About the only ultracote I like is the transparents. it cuts pretty easy unlike the ultracote opaques I have used. Mainly stay with monokote. ..G
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The plus is actually sticky.
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Yup.
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do they charge more $$$ for the plus than the reg ultracote?...G
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The roll I bought was hefty$.


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