Dick T.

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Have searched and read postings on the ARF but did not see any where a G23 was used.

Will the G23 fit okay using a Slimline inverted muffler (the model that has the canister behind the muffler)?

Probably have to open one side of the cowl for the carb but wondering about the exhaust port side.

I know the G23 is heavier than specified engines but I have a sweet running one that needs a home.

Thanks.

Jimmy Bananas

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Dick:

You don't need a G-23 in the GP Ryan....to heavy,and you'll have to add weight to the tail and it will probably be heavier than mine. I have one with a Mag 120 4-stroke ands it weights 10 Ibs,and is a sweet flying plane........Yours, with a G-23,I'd say 11-12 Ibs...To me the G-23 is Overkill for the Ryan....Just my 2 cents worth

Dick T.

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Jimmy,

Thanks for your info. I know the G23 is about a pound + heavier than most 4 strokes but the Ryan can take the weight.

I prefer to stay away from glow in this size plane plus don't want to spring for another engine at this time.

Blackie

Dick, I am thinking of purchasing a Ryan STA -M and also was thinkg of placing a G23 on it. Have you placed yours yet? and if so how did it turn out?

Thanks
Randy

Rex

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How much does the G23 weigh compare to the RCS 1.40? The reviews of the Ryan with the 1.40 were negative, the weight creating a lead-sled. No first hand experence here, just what I've read.

Blackie

Ok thanks for that info I guess an OS 1.08 might be a better choice.

I am trying to stay away from the larger 4 strokes due to fuel comsuption.

Randy

Rex

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I know what you mean about fuel consumption, especially a Saito 1.50 or 1.80. This may be hard to believe, but a lot of folks claim the Ryan flies great with a .91 four stroke. In fact most say they fly at partial throttle most of the time with a 1.20. Any comments anyone?

rc-sport

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A fellow flyer has the OS 91 four stroke in his and it flies just fine. Take offs are very scale.

cappy1

My Ryan flies great witha OS 120 four stroke.... and yes,,, 3/4 throttle to take off. half to fly..... inverted low flyby is a sight to behold.

NM2K

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The overall take off weight with the RCS 1.40 and enough gas/oil mix to fly for ten minutes is about the same as a 1.20 four-stroke with enough glow fuel to fly for ten minutes. That is the beauty of the RCS 1.40. Same weight as a 1.20 four-stroke. Same size as a 1.20 four-stroke. More power than a 1.20 four-stroke. Less cost to fly than a 1.20 four-stroke. YS 1.20 (now extinct) not included.

Blackie

Only thing is that the RCS are not dependable. There are two members at my field that have them and are having nothing but trouble. I was cautioned not to buy any just yet until all of the bugs are worked out.

I believe I will go with either a saito 100 or the OS 1.08 *shrugs*

Randy

Rex

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We have a fellow at the field have some RCS problems also, but we've had two or three Saito 100's with valvetrain problems, the tappets backed out of the rocker arm, one allowing the pushrod to jam the valve down near the pivot, crashing the valve into the piston. The other, fortunately, was mounted inverted and fell into the valve cover. It was repaired at the field, the other went back to Horizon.

As for the weight issue with the RCS, read the RC Report review of the Ryan from a few issues back. There was a backlash to the review, most complaining that the plane handled much better with less weight. RC Report, in so many words, retracted the review after the feedback, indicating that they may publish another review of the model with an engine in the recommended range, for fairness sake.

Blackie

I'll be going to my local hobby shop tomrrow to order the Ryan STA - M at the price of $340.00. Next I will most likely be ordering the OS 1.08 from Hobby Barn.

Randy

pettit

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I recently got the honor of reviewing the newest version of the Ryan family, the STA-M, basically a dressed up STA. I have no comments about the other review, and I treated this plane as if it had never been mentioned before.

I used an OS 91 Surpass turning an APC 16-4 "fun fly" style prop. It pulls the plane around just fine for my liking. The plane weighs right at 11 lbs.

I found that even though the tank centerline is a bit high, the engine starts, idles and runs just fine in all attitudes. It did require a bit of low speed needle adjustment.

Also, I think the problem with the stock main gear legs is that the plane must be taken off and landed slowly and in a straight line. If you scrub the wheels sideways, like when you're not using the rudder correctly, the gear legs bend sideways and there goes the wheel fairings. I did install the Robart legs, but they didn't make too much of a difference. But, there's a lot to be said about their "cool factor".

Read the complete review later this year

BobHH

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I have a GP Ryan STA with OS 120 III with pump. I have slightly modified with inverted engine with header directing exhaust out the bottom. This way no cutting that beautiful cowl and more scale appearence. My flies great on about 2/3 power and has no tendencies except for landing. I have found that you need to fly it on the ground for a smooth landing. Otherwise I always get a bounce or two or three. I have scaled mine up a bit with rivets on turtle deck, windsheild and fairings. I also added some pin stripping and I had a set of decals from a Sig kit that really set her off. Strangly they don't offer decals. Mine weights in at 11-12 lbs and willl take off in about 20 feet if needed but flies very scale. NEGATIVES; throw away those Mickey Mouse wheels it comes with! Get a set of lite low bounce 4 inch wheels. Mine had a engine flame out and barly made it back to the field. A hard bounce resulted in 2 crushed wheel pants and bent axles which have now been replaced. All in all a great flier.

BobHH

Blackie

Just got back from the local hobby shop. laid down $362 and some change including tax for the STA - M

After checking Hobby Barn's prices I would have only saved $8.00 after it was all said and done, so I figured why not support the local store.

*Goes into waiting mode*

Randy

Dick T.

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I gave up on the idea for a G23 installation after getting the Ryan home and fiddling with the engine and cowl. Could not get things to fit without carving up the cowl too much.

Switched to a trusty Magnum 1.08 two stroke with stock muffler. Will fit perfectly with engine mounted 25 degrees off inverted vertical if you use a prop spacer one half inch thick. Couldn't get off the shelf parts from the LHS so I chose to make a 90 degree manifold so the muffler moves to the cowl centerline, clearing the front cowl bottom.

Finished wing last night, starting fuse tonight. Fit and finish so far is excellent.

Blackie

Alrigt!! Got my STA - M in today. *Starts jumping up and down in joy, almost smashing plane*

Randy

Carlos Murphy

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My friend Will is flying this combo, fly's great, I'm about to do the same thing.

You will have about the same hassle as you would installing the G-23 in a H9 PT-19, that is, a narrow cowl.

Use the Slimline Pitts (invert) muffler, works great!
You may have to cut a small clearence slot for the corner of the header porsion of the muffler and open the bottom of the cowl for the two exhaust pipes to hang out of.

Cut a hole for the carb and velocity stack (B&B).
The motor box on the Ryan is too narrow for the G-23 so make a adaptor from 1/4 ply (just like on the P-19 but part was supplied).

WW1Freak

Quote:REX How much does the G23 weigh compare to the RCS 1.40? The reviews of the Ryan with the 1.40 were negative, the weight creating a lead-sled. No first hand experence here, just what I've read.



thats not right at all. i fly mine with a 1.4 rcs and it hauls ass. No trouble starting it also. I even hand start it. It does weigh about 14lbs though.

Ringo-RCU

I've had a Ryan STA for a year already with a Saito 100. Great engine and the airplane has more that adequate power with it and with a Zinger 16X5 it has plenty of thrust.

Trust me, the way to go if you want power, fuel economy and great sound for a great plane is the Saito 100 with a 16X5 prop!

Blackie

As far as engine and power ratio, it depends on how the plane is configured, I am running with duel 600mah nicads on board glow system in which uses its own c cell for power, I have flying wires on top and bottom and pilots in both cock pits, (STA-M).

After its all said and done I came out just over 11 pounds. As far a saito 100 it ain't going to happen (to much plane). With The OS 120 I'm presently using, I am still under powered. Now if the plane came at around 8-9 pounds then yes most definitely a saito 100.

Randy

Dave Bowles

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As some may have noticed from other posts, I am a somewhat of a fan of the G23, the Ryan has more than enough wing area to carry the G23, I currently fly a Low wing stik that has 66" wing and 877 sq inches with the G23 (gas) mounted. I do not use the provided mounting plate and bolt directly to the firewall, total weight is 10lbs 6 oz. It flys great, landing is a little faster and it is no longer as floater, but I would not use any other engine . There are some good deals going at Ebay for G23s sence the new G26 will be out soon. Some NIB are selling under $200.

I am not aware of how the Ryan is constructed so some reinforcement may be needed at the firewall and maybe even the wing, Balance can be done by moving the radio gear to the tail section which for gas engines is not a bad idea anyway. There are many different mufflers available to work with the cowling but there will need to be some holes.

wwnh.net

I just ordered my Ryan STA-M was buy it now on e-bay for $275. Creek Hobbies had it. When I talked to Jim he said go with the 150 Saito[currently on sale for $324 . I bought that and hobbico CS-65 servos. 16x8 APC prop. and two painted pilots [onsale $9.99] Also got the Slow poke 40 kit for $59 and a Saito 56 for $174. Great prices while there moving sale is on.
Now From what I read should I get the 4" wheels? Any thing else?

WW1Freak

Ive got and RCS 1.4 in mine, but a guy at my field has one with a G23. Flies great but he need about 6oz. in the tail.