gingerbreadman

i have just a stock savage x and i put the 18 tooth pinon gear on it and it still wont wheelie any ideas?

theddy

18t cb is too tall. use the 15t cb. check your clutch shoe you might need a new aluminum ones.

allanmathews

Well the smaller the clutch bell the more likley it whellie plus whats so big about wwhelling its not that cool????????

theddy

you're right! i'm also not wheelie fan. it's annoying IMO.

suicidemachine

If you want to wheelie, 15t cb, lock down the slipper nut, put preload spacers on rear shocks. You also have to tuned within reason.

ThunderbirdJunkie

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it was cool for about the first week, then it got old, lol.

itsnotskidding

wot fuel r u using gingerbreadman???...

mine wheelies all over the place, infact she hard to keep down, and i have not changed a thing other than springs, and recently an exhaust, check my videos 2 c it, but lower the cb a lil more and she should lift!!... 25% fuel and no lower realy.

tom

gingerbreadman

alright well i did take out the spacers and im only running 20%

i like to run it right around 215-230 so the engine last a little longer

Revo Eater

You are running too rich thats why you can't wheelie. The f4.1 likes to run 260-280f.

a8man

Umm I ordered a 17t Racing clutchbell...will this wheelie occasionally with the 49t spur (currently stock X). And another question, I got the Nova shoes on order and will this affect the wheelie ability, accelerate, top speed?

ThunderbirdJunkie

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a8, the 17t CB will only make your Savage wheelie if you have a good clutch setup.

nextalcupfan

where are u measuring the temp at? the manual says dont go over 250 at the plug (by the way where do u measure it on the plug or should i measure at the heat sink)

ThunderbirdJunkie

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the manual sucks. look at it for part numbers and exploded views, ignore the instructions, lol

a8man

So....with the Nova shoes and Mugen springs it wont wheelie at all? I say this because with the stock clutch, spur, stock 18t CB, and with horrible mesh, i managed to pull like two wheelies but just barely. I figuered that with a 17t CB, aluminum clutch shoes, mugen springs, and HPI aluminum pipe it should at least wheelie ocassionally. Am I not correct?

And another question, what do you consider a good clutch setup?

ThunderbirdJunkie

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just somethin grabbier than the stock plastic shoes.

Mine wheelied with a THS pipe, losi shoes/springs, and a 17t CB no problem, but the stock clutch is hit-or-miss. some grab OK, some don't grab worth crap.

a8man

So I should be able to wheelie....Yay! I know its gets old but I only experianced this joy for a mere 3 minutes before I bent the chassis plates.

MiamizFinest

260 - 280 REALLY???? i have the f4.1 (stock still) and it wont go over 201?????? and it wheelys like nothing im very happy with the engine so far im goin to get a sts .28 soon becuase i want more power but the 4.1 is a very good performance engine i run the 15CB and it wheelys (im not really a big fan of that) and the day i put the 18CB on the truck i didnt liek the performance plus it OVER HEATED LIKE CRAZY!!!!!!!!!!!!!! so never again id suggest u step down to the 15CB till u get a better engine!!!!!!!!! when i get the sts im goin to drop in the 18CB that will push it

SAVAGEJIM

If your F4.1 wheelies like crazy and sits at 200degrees F, then praise the Lord! You've got a very precise engine that is built to exact specs (as well as the right fuel, exhuast set-up, etc.).

Yeah, I agree with everyone else. Wheelies are fun for about the first 30min, and then it gets old when you are trying to take off hard in a controlled acceleration.

MiamizFinest

i run 20% maxi fuel (oil is 12%) the pipe is a RD logics one peice pipe GREAT PIPE!!!!!! im at sea level since i live in miami so i think that might help witht he lower temps another thing that might be a relevent the guy that owns maxi fuel and diesined it was born and raise here in miami florida maybe it was designed with sea level raceing in mind?!?!?!? i met the guy he is a brain when it comes to this stuff!!!!!!!!!!! how hot is everyone elses engine running????




PS litterally everyones savage ive seeen out here in miami runs at 180 190 200 i think it has soemting to do with the fact where at sea level what do u think?????/
the only trucks i see running hotter is the TRX 2.5 and the 3.3 there running liek 250 in the revos and tmaxxs

SAVAGEJIM

I'm not sure how high above sea level I'm at, but my engines will run at operating temps from 230 to 280 degrees F. One of the factors I have to deal wth constantly is the changing weather conditions. One day will be hot and dry and the next will be hot and humid (as you can tell, we only have two weathers: hot and hotter). The weather is sure a beeyatch since I must guess the humidity and change the plugs accordingly.

MiamizFinest

where just always hot over here the humitiy is alwys basically the same thing i always jsut run the o donelles SS plugs on everything and ive never had an issue the best time it durring winter time when it cools down to 60 degress you see everyones cars HAULING from october till like about january is the best time to do outside i was goin to bash today but the sun is so dam hot SCREW IT!!!!!! ill stay home!!!!!!!!!!!

gleebs

I have not been able to get my car to wheelie either, I guess I see why now. I am running 30% Trinity Platinum. I have an aftermarket air filter, 16T CB and the 3 speed. But I am at 4200+ feet, and I have 4.7mm extended TVP's. Hopefully someday I can experience the wheelie. Let's here it for the LRP z.28 spec 3.

SAVAGEJIM

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Pansy!!!!

MiamizFinest

PANSY!?!? HELL NAW LOLOLOLOL it was 95 degrees outside today NO THANKS i know u live in phoenix and it gets to be like 110 (i rember you tolled me once) thats it i gotta draw the line its too hot........ive bein thinking to even geting a mini someting so i can get some indoor action!!!lol