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Old 06-16-2020, 08:14 PM
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Default Jeti Li-Ions to power the turbine???

I was looking at the specs of their batteries and it shows that a simple 2600mah pack built out of their 2600A cells is capable of 30 amps continuous. Has anyone used them in a 3S configuration to power the turbine/fuel pump? For my next build I am looking to step away from lipo because I don't want to have to remove batteries to charge, and LiFe are not an option as I want the full 8+ volts for my servos and need the full 11+ volts for the Swiwin ECU. I am just not exactly sure how many amps the pump pulls at full throttle and if the voltage of li-ions will stay high enough. I was looking at something like this, in 3S2P:
https://shop.jetimodel.cz/power-ion-2600a-3s2p.htm
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I have used the 2S 5200 to run a jetcat 160.
The fuel pump, ECU, and the solenoid valve take little current. The biggest current is when the igniter and starter motor are on.
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If I was using KingTech (which wont be changing anytime soon) I would used 3s li-ion for sure...
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Originally Posted by bodywerks
I was looking at the specs of their batteries and it shows that a simple 2600mah pack built out of their 2600A cells is capable of 30 amps continuous. Has anyone used them in a 3S configuration to power the turbine/fuel pump? For my next build I am looking to step away from lipo because I don't want to have to remove batteries to charge, and LiFe are not an option as I want the full 8+ volts for my servos and need the full 11+ volts for the Swiwin ECU. I am just not exactly sure how many amps the pump pulls at full throttle and if the voltage of li-ions will stay high enough. I was looking at something like this, in 3S2P:
https://shop.jetimodel.cz/power-ion-2600a-3s2p.htm
I’m going to try these. https://www.18650batterystore.com/21...amsung-40t.htm
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Originally Posted by bodywerks
I was looking at the specs of their batteries and it shows that a simple 2600mah pack built out of their 2600A cells is capable of 30 amps continuous. Has anyone used them in a 3S configuration to power the turbine/fuel pump? For my next build I am looking to step away from lipo because I don't want to have to remove batteries to charge, and LiFe are not an option as I want the full 8+ volts for my servos and need the full 11+ volts for the Swiwin ECU. I am just not exactly sure how many amps the pump pulls at full throttle and if the voltage of li-ions will stay high enough. I was looking at something like this, in 3S2P:
https://shop.jetimodel.cz/power-ion-2600a-3s2p.htm

Bodyworks,

I run these Jeti Li-Ions in all of my models and never have a problem.

On my little Savex L-39 with an MW-44 I run just one 5200mAh battery and run everything (radio, retracts, brakes and engine) from it. I can fly all day on a single charge, at least 6 engine starts.

On my Ultra Flash and Hunter, both powered by a Merlin 140XBL, I run twin 5200mAh batteries into either a CB200 or a CB400. Both batteries go to the CB for the radio system and one battery also powers the engine, and the other also powers the retracts/ brakes on the UF and lights on the Hunter. I can get 4-5 starts & flights before needing to re-charge. A failed start is the indication. If the engine can start, you have plenty of battery to fly on either model.


These Jeti Li-Ion batteries are my default power system. There's hardly any self discharge and they hold charge for months, plus no charging safety issues. I don't run Li-Po at all. Never had much luck with them.

You charge them using the Li-Po setting on the charger, not the Li-Ion settings.You won't get full charge on the Li-Ion setting. That was my initial mistake. Battery internal circuitry protects them from over-charging using the Li-Po setting.


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Originally Posted by JSF-TC
Bodyworks,

I run these Jeti Li-Ions in all of my models and never have a problem.

On my little Savex L-39 with an MW-44 I run just one 5200mAh battery and run everything (radio, retracts, brakes and engine) from it. I can fly all day on a single charge, at least 6 engine starts.

On my Ultra Flash and Hunter, both powered by a Merlin 140XBL, I run twin 5200mAh batteries into either a CB200 or a CB400. Both batteries go to the CB for the radio system and one battery also powers the engine, and the other also powers the retracts/ brakes on the UF and lights on the Hunter. I can get 4-5 starts & flights before needing to re-charge. A failed start is the indication. If the engine can start, you have plenty of battery to fly on either model.


These Jeti Li-Ion batteries are my default power system. There's hardly any self discharge and they hold charge for months, plus no charging safety issues. I don't run Li-Po at all. Never had much luck with them.

You charge them using the Li-Po setting on the charger, not the Li-Ion settings.You won't get full charge on the Li-Ion setting. That was my initial mistake. Battery internal circuitry protects them from over-charging using the Li-Po setting.


Paul
This will be to power a 220N turbine. But unless they change the ECU for it, its power input is just an XT30 connector so I'm sure it won't pull more than 30 amps. And then I'm thinking two 2s 3100 li-ions to power the powersafe receiver and gear. Trying to keep weight to a minimum on this Rebel Pro and power/weight better than 1:1 at take-off weight. If I can't get it to balance I'll up the receiver battery capacity.
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Guys
Li-ion batteries are the same as lipos but with a different skin.They both charge to 4.2 and don't like being left at full charge for long periods. Li-ions are lighter weight for the mah and the metal casing makes them more robust. They can also tolerate being discharged to a lower level compared to lipos. So they do make for a great receiver pack. But you need to charge them like you would a lipo with balance lead connected. and treat them as you would a lipo.
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I have measured the current draw on a P-200SX Jetcat during start. When the igniter is on along with the starter it draws 20 amps. It drops to almost nothing after the engine is running FYI.
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Originally Posted by Bobneal1
I have measured the current draw on a P-200SX Jetcat during start. When the igniter is on along with the starter it draws 20 amps. It drops to almost nothing after the engine is running FYI.
Well if a 15c life can do it on the 4 flights....I have no doubt a li-ion would be up to the task....
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I tried 3S 2900mAh packs from Emcotec on a Graupner Booster 90+ and a 130+, did't work, got a "low starter RPM" message……… these are 30C as well, but apparently the boosters draw more. switched te a 4S LiFe-pack, and that works…..
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Originally Posted by WimB
I tried 3S 2900mAh packs from Emcotec on a Graupner Booster 90+ and a 130+, did't work, got a "low starter RPM" message……… these are 30C as well, but apparently the boosters draw more. switched te a 4S LiFe-pack, and that works…..
those are a 10 amp max continuous discharge, that's more like 3C, not 30C.
The battery I ordered is a 3S2P 5200mah total with a 60 amp continuous current rating.
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Originally Posted by bodywerks
those are a 10 amp max continuous discharge, that's more like 3C, not 30C.
The battery I ordered is a 3S2P 5200mah total with a 60 amp continuous current rating.
How did you order it?
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I make batteries packs from Samsung 40T 21700 cells. They work fine for turbines. They are used for power tools and charge to 8.4V using the LiPo setting. I think they are a better, safer and more reliable battery than any thing sold for RC. At one point Tesla was using them.
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Bad Boys sells Ion packs for their swinwin's . Dan
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The Jetti 3100 packs work fine -
1 pack for Rx , 1 pack for turbine , 1 pack for retracts
If a power box is used 1 pack for each side input

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