What is the definition of a roller?
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What is the definition of a roller?
I have wondered for a while why do RC sellers say the term "Roller or Race Roller" in the description when there's no rims and tires included. I would think if its a Roller that it would need those items to........... Roll[&:] Maybe Im looking too deep into that term, what do you guys think?
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.... i would consider any complete chassis a roller, if you REALLY think about it, tires are equipment just like servo's, radio gear. motor and batteries, someone may need foam tires, rubber tires, slick tires, hard, soft, medium, so what may be included wouldnt even be used (like the tires i got in my f1 kit- useless)
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IMO a roller is a vehicle with everyting nessary to run it minus the electronics. motor / esc / reciver / transmitter / battery for nitro just replace motor with engine.
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.... i would consider any complete chassis a roller, if you REALLY think about it, tires are equipment just like servo's, radio gear. motor and batteries, someone may need foam tires, rubber tires, slick tires, hard, soft, medium, so what may be included wouldnt even be used (like the tires i got in my f1 kit- useless)
.... i would consider any complete chassis a roller, if you REALLY think about it, tires are equipment just like servo's, radio gear. motor and batteries, someone may need foam tires, rubber tires, slick tires, hard, soft, medium, so what may be included wouldnt even be used (like the tires i got in my f1 kit- useless)
Tires maybe part of the equipment but if you look up the definition it say "one that performs a rolling operation or activity". How can it be a roller if it cant roll?
Why not just call it a complete chassis set or something like that?
While the uselessness some tires are true like on my XTM, to me it was considered a roller as I checked for binding when I took it out of the box, my Blitz on the other hand I had to mount some spares from a Slash so I could check.
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RE: What is the definition of a roller?
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IMO a roller is a vehicle with everyting nessary to run it minus the electronics. motor / esc / reciver / transmitter / battery
IMO a roller is a vehicle with everyting nessary to run it minus the electronics. motor / esc / reciver / transmitter / battery
However, it is always a good idea to be sure that the definition you use matches the definition that the seller is operating under. I have seen "rollers" advertised that are not much more than just a chassis up to including everything exceptt he electronics or motor.
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for nitro just replace motor with engine.
for nitro just replace motor with engine.
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RE: What is the definition of a roller?
A roller has to have wheels and tires. Or it should state roller, minus wheels and tires.
I bought a revo roller with wheels in the pictures and no indication they werent included. I got the truck and was surprised when it didnt have wheels. I made the point of how could it roll with no wheels. He had no argument against that...
A roller without wheels is a skidder. Regardless of wether most people would use the wheels or not, a set of wheels are a $30-100 item and can make a big difference to someone that doesent have an extra set laying around...
I bought a revo roller with wheels in the pictures and no indication they werent included. I got the truck and was surprised when it didnt have wheels. I made the point of how could it roll with no wheels. He had no argument against that...
A roller without wheels is a skidder. Regardless of wether most people would use the wheels or not, a set of wheels are a $30-100 item and can make a big difference to someone that doesent have an extra set laying around...
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ORIGINAL: The Collector1
I have wondered for a while why do RC sellers say the term "Roller or Race Roller" in the description when there's no rims and tires included. I would think if its a Roller that it would need those items to........... Roll[&:] Maybe Im looking too deep into that term, what do you guys think?
I have wondered for a while why do RC sellers say the term "Roller or Race Roller" in the description when there's no rims and tires included. I would think if its a Roller that it would need those items to........... Roll[&:] Maybe Im looking too deep into that term, what do you guys think?
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RE: What is the definition of a roller?
That is simply your opinion.
There is nothing about the word roller that could describe an r/c vehicle if it doesent have wheels. It needs wheels to be a roller.
There is nothing about the word roller that could describe an r/c vehicle if it doesent have wheels. It needs wheels to be a roller.
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RE: What is the definition of a roller?
IMO should have wheels, no electronics, and body optional.
If it doesn't have wheels IMO its a chassis or a chassis kit.
One of the best rollers I bought was a Savage .21 that was only missing the radio system.
Then I got a "roller"(my jammin X1 CRT) the owner didn't even include the damn 17mm hex nuts on the damn thing to put wheels on it(glad I ordered a few sets by accident dirt cheap a year or so prior).
When I bought my merv it was labeled as a chassis seeing it had no wheels, electronics, or body.
If it doesn't have wheels IMO its a chassis or a chassis kit.
One of the best rollers I bought was a Savage .21 that was only missing the radio system.
Then I got a "roller"(my jammin X1 CRT) the owner didn't even include the damn 17mm hex nuts on the damn thing to put wheels on it(glad I ordered a few sets by accident dirt cheap a year or so prior).
When I bought my merv it was labeled as a chassis seeing it had no wheels, electronics, or body.
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RE: What is the definition of a roller?
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That is simply your opinion.
There is nothing about the word roller that could describe an r/c vehicle if it doesent have wheels. It needs wheels to be a roller.
That is simply your opinion.
There is nothing about the word roller that could describe an r/c vehicle if it doesent have wheels. It needs wheels to be a roller.
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RE: What is the definition of a roller?
You guys must be really bored. What good is a roller when it does not roll?
No matter what the definition is - if you you sell such a model, you should describe what is missing.
And if you are buying - ask what is missing.
I bought such a truck and I did the mistake of not asking enough questions, so I had to buy lots of parts to get it to run
No matter what the definition is - if you you sell such a model, you should describe what is missing.
And if you are buying - ask what is missing.
I bought such a truck and I did the mistake of not asking enough questions, so I had to buy lots of parts to get it to run
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in my opinion as stated above, is a complete chassis minus the tires because one may need a certain tire, just like one would want a certain servo and ect.
but now thinking about it, a real roller should have rims with it minus the tires.
but now thinking about it, a real roller should have rims with it minus the tires.
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RE: What is the definition of a roller?
By the trend of this thread, we can see that everyones definition of a roller is different.
I could say that I agree that a roller must have wheels to roll, but some will dissagree with that statement.
In my own opinion. I dont pay much importance to the defenition if an RC is a roller or not. When I look for stuff to buy, I make sure that the add or listing inidcates what is included or not. I dont assume that if its defined as a roller, then it will include wheels. I just ask what is included. When I put an add to sell, I define my rollers when they have wheels, if they dont, I would list which parts are included, and offcouse photos could explain a lot.
I could say that I agree that a roller must have wheels to roll, but some will dissagree with that statement.
In my own opinion. I dont pay much importance to the defenition if an RC is a roller or not. When I look for stuff to buy, I make sure that the add or listing inidcates what is included or not. I dont assume that if its defined as a roller, then it will include wheels. I just ask what is included. When I put an add to sell, I define my rollers when they have wheels, if they dont, I would list which parts are included, and offcouse photos could explain a lot.
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RE: What is the definition of a roller?
No powerplant or electronics, pre-assembled. That's the definition of a roller/race roller. Whether or not it includes wheels or tires or body is irrelevant.
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RE: What is the definition of a roller?
imho a RACE roller is one that doesn't come with wheels and tires as those are normally a selection you need to make based on your track. where as a plain roller should come with at least front and rear wheels and tires. but i always put a thorough description with mine that explain exactly what does and doesn't come with it.
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RE: What is the definition of a roller?
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So how can it be called a roller if it cant roll? It should be called a chassis set.
So how can it be called a roller if it cant roll? It should be called a chassis set.
Common Defenition: by Wikipedia, Dictionary, Miriam Webster etc.
roll·er/ˈrÅlÉ™r/Noun:
1. A cylinder that rotates around a central axis and is used in various machines and devices to move, flatten, or spread something.
2. Roller (machine part), a cylindrical machine component or a component of a roller bearing.
3. One that rolls or performs a rolling operation or activity.
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No powerplant or electronics, pre-assembled. That's the definition of a roller/race roller. Whether or not it includes wheels or tires or body is irrelevant.
No powerplant or electronics, pre-assembled. That's the definition of a roller/race roller. Whether or not it includes wheels or tires or body is irrelevant.
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RE: What is the definition of a roller?
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this thread might show there is no one, settled, definition. especially if a roller does not have to be equipped to roll. no?
this thread might show there is no one, settled, definition. especially if a roller does not have to be equipped to roll. no?
If it can't roll....it's not a roller. It's a "pre-roller".
To me
RTR (ready to run) means out of the box it should be ready to run (batteries are a debate on this issue, I think RTR should mean batteries but that's debatable)
ARTR (almost ready to run) means motor, ESC (if electric) and servos, no radio or batteries.
Roller means basic vehicle with no motor or electronics
Pre-Roller means basic vehicle with no tires and maybe no body.
Now most of the items have something subjective about them, which is why you need to specify every detail prior to a purchase, but a Roller HAS to have tires otherwise....it can't roll.....
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i think everyone is thinking about this too literally, its like saying "ready to run" means you pull the car out of the box, flip the switch and drive. sometimes you have to buy the batteries or fuel, charge the battery, sometimes even paint the body or glue the tires.
and shouldn't a "kit" come with EVERYTHING to build your car? servo, esc, battery, reciver, controller, paint for the body, glue for the tires, whats a kit if it doesn't come with everything to make it? the exception is the "chassis kit" so you know its only for the chassis.
and shouldn't a "kit" come with EVERYTHING to build your car? servo, esc, battery, reciver, controller, paint for the body, glue for the tires, whats a kit if it doesn't come with everything to make it? the exception is the "chassis kit" so you know its only for the chassis.