53caddy

Hi i am just starting into the hobby and just bought me a hpi savage x with a 3 speed transmission and an OS motor. With a JR RACING XR 3i, 3 Channel 4 Model Memory remote. I was also wondering what else should i do to it since i am new into this sport.

SpikeX

Hey and welcome to the forum!

I would recommend the HPI Wheelie Bar to stop the truck from flipping over and scratching the rear skid plate and engine head. Also get the HPI Dual Disc Brake Set, which, believe me, really makes a difference! You can perform stoppies on command!

The Heavy-Duty drivetrain parts are also a good idea, with universal dogbones where possible (centre and sides).

savycharlie

It sounds like u have a ggod set up the way it is but u could get a roll cage if u want to.

53caddy

by any chance can u get me a link for the heavy duty drivetrain and where should i get some of these parts at

SpikeX

I would not recommend a roll cage. Sure, they look good, and they protect everything. But they are heavy, made your truck harder to work on, and usually break whatever they are mounted to because they are so rigid.

As for the drivetrain parts, here is a list of what you should get:

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...78&FVPROFIL=++
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...77&FVPROFIL=++
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...70&FVPROFIL=++
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...39&FVPROFIL=++

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...50&FVPROFIL=++
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXLME4&P=ML

savycharlie

It sounds like u have a good set up the way it is but u could get a roll cage if u want to.

53caddy

i have the wheelie bar and a racing clutch and i am about to buy all the stuff u told me i need to get what else would u recomend and how hard is it to install the drive train stuff. And also how do i make sure i dont have these parts on the car already the person i bought it from dosent know much about what it has on it

SpikeX

The Heavy-Duty Drivetrain parts are really easy to install. I am 12 years old and I could install them all in just over 1 hour.

To install the heavy-duty cup joints (#86277) and heavy-duty centre universal dogbones (#86269 and #86270), which fit onto the transmission and differentials, you have to remove the roll bar, and throttle and brake linkages. Next you must remove both the TVPs to gain access to the transmission, as well as the front and rear ends of the truck. Remove the transmission along with the dogbones and install the cup joints using the grub screws. Then, remove the cup joints on the centre of the differentials, and install the centre universal dogbones. Then, re-assemble everything and apply a little grease on the ends of the dogbones.

To install the heavy-duty differential shafts (#86278), you must remove the differentials. Then disassemble the differentials as shown in your manual, and install the new diff shafts. Remember to fill the differentials with grease or diff oil after assembly.

As for the universal dogbones that fit on the sides (#87239), YOU WILL NEED TWO SETS. Remove the uprights by unscrewing the two screws on the top and bottom of each upright. Remove the dogbone and axle, and replace these with the universal dogbones.

Revo Eater

An aluminum 3 shoe clutch and a good tuned pipe are absolutely necessary to get any kind of performance out of your truck. Don't even bother wasting your time upgrading the drivetrain. Replace it as it breaks.

53caddy

can u get me a link of a good 3 shoe clutch and a nice pipe

SpikeX

Some good aluminium clutch shoes are:

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...96&FVPROFIL=++

And a good aluminium tuned pipe here:

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...38&FVPROFIL=++
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...39&FVPROFIL=++

As you can see, I like HPI parts!

amwhite2005

The Drive terrain will be fine for a long time. Upgrade that as it breaks. It is a better idea to spend the money on more useful stuff. I would list in order of best to worse.

Shims for diffs, or replace them with the X SS ones as they go (which might only be a few tanks)
Install the roll cage it comes with
Good tuned pipe
HPI Dual Disk Brake Set
Steel spur gear and racing clutch bell
Aluminum clutch shoes

Everything else can be upgraded as it breaks.

DaveG55

That's the best advice so far.
Except I don't agree with the steel spur gear one. I like the plastic because it shears before other damage occurs to the drivetrain. But some people like them soo....

amwhite2005

None of those in the list are the worst. There are a lot of really bad products out there. Another useful tips (you may have already picked up from this forum), Integy parts are rubbish. I had one other thier bumpers before, and after a few wheelies it was totally ruined. It had bent a little, and it was stratched really bad. All the purple had come off too. They look good, but dont perform well.

I like to stick the HPI parts as much I can. Some of the things they do I dont like (radios, servos and thier batteries) , and I also think they are over priced here in the UK, but they have great customer service and most of thier stuff is very good quality.

53caddy

I think i will follow what you said can someone get me a link on these parts and i will order them. Thanks for all the help so far since i never had a gas powered rc car

benzzyo5

well with the os u need a a good pipe since it has alot of power, or somthing like this, or a pipe with a dual stinger on it.

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXHEC4&P=7

clutch shoes.

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXJAP0&P=ML

springs
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXNJ81&P=M

brakes
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXFYL2&P=ML

now as for the clutch bell, i don't know how amny teeth you want but what ever one u get make sure it is a vented ot hardened bell. u have to run one of these with the alluminum shoes,

for example this one
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXBL95&P=7

this is accually a good size to use

amwhite2005

Or the HPI racing clutch bell.

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXLST7&P=ML

53caddy

now how hard is it to install all of this???

SpikeX

I have told you how hard it is for the heavy-dut drivetrain parts. The clutch bell is very easy to install. Just remove the engine, remove the screw holding the clutch bell, slip the clutch bell off, slide the new one one, and tighten the screw. Be sure NOT to tighten the screw all the way (just so that the clutch bell spins freely), and be sure to apply some threadlock to the screw.

The tuned pipe is also very to install. You need to remove the two zip ties that hold the exhaust coupler in place, and remove the exhaust from its mount. Then, remove the right TVP and take off the plastic exhaust mount from it. Install the new exhaust spring mount, and tighten the set screw that comes with it. Then, secure the exhaust onto the mount using another set screw and attached it to the coupler, adding zip ties at the end. This procedure should be detailed in the instructions that come with the pipe (at least if you get an HPI one!).

The clutch shoes and springs are quite hard to install IMO. Check out this link for more information on how to install them:

http://www.savage-central.com/module...ewtopic&t=9815

The brakes are quite easy to install. First, you need to remove the throttle and brake linkages. Then remove the left TVP and slide the transmission out. Remove the two screws that hold the stock brake pads and install the new brake set as per the instructions that come with the set.

amwhite2005

The brakes come with instructions. The rest of the stuff is easy to install. After you have had the truck for a while, you will know hoe everything works and how to take it apart and put it together. It is not that hard to do. My LHS told me the Savage was the best truck for a new person (yes, I was a new person like you just 8 months ago), and they were right!

53caddy

Any special tools i need to buy. Any other useful hints to keep my savage running after each time i use it

SpikeX

I would buy a clutch shoe tool. I think Duratrax make one.

Also, after every run, make sure you put some after-run oil in the engine via the glow plug hole. I have heard that it is bad to do this via the carburetor because the oil can damage the seals and cause an air leak.

53caddy

cool cool i am now just waiting on the savage to get here and the parts went to the local hobby store today and they only had a little bit of stuff for the savage

itsnotskidding

hi dude...and welcome

53caddy

is their any other place i can get that pipe cheaper or is their a pipe that is as good but a little cheaper or can i buy an hpi racing x ss polished alum. pipe