jaketrouble

hey guys,

it has been 5 days now since i had my new revo3.3.. my first truck!! i still have not had it fired up yet mainly because of all the rain. so today i had a buddy come by that knows a lot more then me.. the ez start wand would not start the truck.. wouldnt even try to start.

my buddy is thinking it is the battery.. it is a brand new tower hobbies 1500 ,,7.2 battery... is it possible for a brand new battery to be devective??? i am sooooo disapointed!!! nice truck like this and i cant even play with it.. i used the stock charger that came with the truck and the light did stop blinking meaning the battery should be charged!! i dont have a volt ohm meter to check it.

so,, couldmi have just got a bad battery or could it be something else... thx,,jake

jayrguidaben

try charging it again. this happen to me before that it won't crank the engine for the first time. so i charge it again to reach the maximum voltage on the battery. i read your past forum, did you turn your piston to the bottom now?
one more thing check you wiring harness on the revo ez start make sure it is plug in and the blue wire towards the glow plug.

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sounds like your engine is just super tight and EZ start can't turn it over like when my 3.3 was brand new.

matts6887

I second this!!! Sounds like the engine just needs a little "kick start" so to speak. This is the same way mine was when I first tried to break it in as well. One thing that might help is when u are trying to crank it over, loosen the plug about 1/4 turn to release some of the compression from being so tight. Once the engine fires(if it does), then immediately tighten the plug back up....

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or get a starter box...well that might work it should lol

RCCanuck

when starting new engines with an EZ start always position the flywheel at BDC before you hit the button.....the EZ start needs to have a little help when turning over a new engine...once you get it broken in it will start it every time.

jaketrouble

cool,,thx guys,, i went to the lhs and bought a new battery and the same thing happened.. i called traxxas and they told me to remove the glow plug spray a little WD40 in the hole.,,unstick the piston and then with the glow plug out crank it over for 60 seconds to lossen it up some.. well i did that and it did turn better but not to well..

so i called them back and from him just hearing it trying to start over the phone he told me the battery was not fully charged. he said i need to cycle the battery 2-3 times to get a full charge and i should be good to go.. it is just so frustrating.. here i am a newbie with a nice brand new revo 3.3 ,,had it 5 days and still have not got ot run it..

my battery is charging now.. i am just going to take it slow.. since a lot of you guys say you had the same or simualr problems i feel better now.. plus traxxas really seems to think it is just the battery and the new engine that is giving me the problems. thx guys,,jake

Stambone

Dude Have you done anything that people have suggested in here? seems like your going at 100mph and not slowing down to take a look. Take a step back and breath a little you probably didnt need a new battery these guys have made some very simple suggestions.Keep one post open and stop opening a new thread every 5 minutes this way you can see what everyone is suggesting instead of opening a new thread every time.

RCCanuck

it is man...just slow down and be patient with it and you will get the best results.....the performance of your engine over its life depends on what you do to it while breaking it in.....another tip is to heat it up with a hair dryer until it is warm to the touch...this will expand the metals to allow it to start easier.

NitroVenom

+100.. For any new enine you should heat it up for abouta min or so and then go ahead and try starting it. One thing I keep seeing suggested but nobody explains how to do is place the piston at BDC(Bottom Dead Center). For this you need to actually take off the exhaust(header.. 2 screws on the back of the motor) and look at the piston(through the exhaust port) while you turn the flywheel. Once you see the top of piston, take a black sharpie and put a mark on the bottom of the flywheel. Then after every run, you will need to make sure that mark you made is at the bottom.

Here's a link on how to break in the motor via heat cycle(also shows you how to mark BDC):[link=http://www.rcuniverse.com/magazine/article_display.cfm?article_id=397]Clicky[/link]

Here's another link to the heat cycle break method. [link=http://www.johnnycoolguy.com/JCGR/main/tech_break-in.html]Heat Cycle method 2.[/link]

jaketrouble

guys,, thx,,, but i do listen and do EVERYTHING you guys suggest.. i even had a guy here that has been doing this for 3 years.. he thought i had a bad battery, turns out it nevr fully charged as the charger said it was.. needed more cycles..

but i did,, make sure the piston wasnt stuck,, i did move it to bdc and tried again,, i did heat the engine up with a hair dryer before i tried to start it.. i called traxxas and had them walk me through it.. so i do hear and obey.. i am in no hurry to ruin a 500 dollar truck.

so this guy i met here took the battery back to his house.. he lives about 30 miles away so he couldnt just come right back with his wand and batteries.. so then i went and bought a new battery just incase and tried all you suggested and what traxxas told me to do..

it turns out that my battery just needs to have 2-3 cycles to get it to a full charge,, that and being the engine is new is why it is not starting.. so PLEASE dont be mad at me.. i do listen,,,that is why i ask.. and i dont post every 5 minutes! i have made about 6 post total in the truck section and 4 out of 6 were for different questions,, not problems. 2 of the post did relate to this. if i didnt want to listen to you guys i wouldnt ask for advise. and i only open up the new threads for a couple reasons.. one is so that the guys that already answered my question will get to read my questions again.. and i also start up new threads to avoid problems.. preventive maintence sort of>> thx,,jake..


p.s.. i do appreciate the help.. but please dont think i do not listen or take your advise because I DO!! I DO EVERYTHING YOU TELL ME TO TRY. it is only when they dont work that i repost. all you guys were new at one time and i bet you got a little frustrated too. i only started this new thread because i was told by my buddy that it was probably the battery.. thats all i ask on this thread,, that was the tilte of the thread. can new batteries be defective? now i know i probably pissed some of you off and you will never help me again.. i hope that is not the case.. jake

RCCanuck

no worries man....i just didn't want to see you get frustrated as this will cause the problem to snoball...cause when you are frustrated you can't think properly...well at least I can't LOL......once you get a full charge on the battery...do all the steps that have been listed and it should fire up....keep in mind it will run like crap until the break in is done and it is tuned for performance.

thedr

I.m curious about what kind of charger you're using, a good peak charger or just a cheap wall charger, and if the xtra batteries you purchased were the same small mAh cheap low-powered ones as what came with the truck?

jaketrouble

i am using the battery charger that came with the truck,, it is suppose to be a decent one.. both of my batteries are 7.2 volt,,1500 mah.. the second battery i bought from the lhs and that is what he said i needed.. they are not the best but they are not the cheapest either.. i am 99% sure it is just the battery wasnt getting a full charge,.,.

so thx again for all that are trying to help.. i will get it!!! it is just easier to ask for help sometimes rather then trying to figure it out yourself.. i sorry for all the post.. 2 out of 6 were asking about this problem.. the other 4 were just questions about accessories.. jake


question on the battery.. i was going to start a new post but dont want stambone yelling at me:}:}:}+ would it be better to get a battery that is higher then 1500mah?? does that give it more cranking power? and what is a good brand name to get??thx

youwish16

if your using the battery for the ez start, then you dont need an expensive, high mah battery. i use a 1500mah tower hobbies pack for my ezstart and ive never had any trouble, and its only like $8

and there is no need to take off the header to get the piston to bdc. all you do is turn the flywheel till you dont feel any reistance.

jaketrouble

thx guys,, i'll get it.. it just upsets me a little that stambone who has a total of 33 post and just joined these forums a month ago can come off like he is the man.. didnt even try to help me..he just bashed me for making 2 post about the same thing.. in my close to 900 post 850 were helping out other heli guys.. but i guess stambone is an expert at this..

it just bugs me that some people would rather jump on somebody rather then help.. he said i open a new post every 5 minutes.. i have posted 6 times in the truck section total!! i know once i get good at this that i will help out anybody that needs it. but to be truthful i dont even want his help.. all you other guys are cool.. i just had to get that off my chest.. sorry,,,jake.

NitroVenom

LOL I think stambone was the only one who said anything about posting too much... I guess thats why he only has 33.. hehe.. He's just trying to help out... no worries. Anyway I think your doin pretty good so far. I mean you've had the thing for a week and still have yet to run it, just so you don't mess anything up. I bet I would be one of the crazy guys loosing their minds trying to start it if I didn't know what I was doing. At least you've got patience..

jaketrouble

lol,,, yea,,i can see by your avitar you dont have much patience:}:}:} but mine is wearing thin/! my buddy is going to come back again tomorrow and bring one of his batteries,, his wand and hopefully one of his trucks so we can test out my battery and wand on his.. i am sure i will get it but it really does suck just having it setting here taunting me:}

as far as stambone goes,,that is cool,,, but like my mom use to say,, if you dont have anything nice to say dont say anything!! the guy acts like i have made dozens of post on the same questions.. he didnt even offer any advise other then bashing me.. it bothered me at first but i am over it.. all you other guys are cool and understand how tuff it can be getting started.. thx dude,,jake.

thedr

No, I think all he was doing was noting that you had asked several of the same questions and had never noted that you had tried the things epople had earlier suggested. The thing with the discussion boards is that in many cases different people ask the same questions nearly everyday without looking through earlier threads to see if anyone else had a similar problem. People then try to help them only to find out that it was something silly like "I didn't charge my battery -or- I forgot to add any gas." Sometimes it just gets a little old hat.
Sure, your problem was a bit unique. But until he asked no one had any idea if you'd tried to cure the problem other than leaving to buy another battery while everyone logged in with ideas and things to try. Just understand that you as the questioner are the one in need, not whomever is answering your questions. People here and on other boards try to have patience, it's why we offer to help, it's just that most often the people asking that are the ones without any patience.
Most of the RTR nitros on the market have been test run at the factory, so that's why people are so puzzled that yours wouldn't start and likely thought you must have been doing something wrong.


good luck

Mspeed

Ron, dont worry, we should get it running tommorow with all the stuff I am bringing over. When you charge that battery tonight, check it every now and then to see if its getting warm. As soon as it gets hot, its pretty much done, take it off charge after it gets hot, so you dont blow anything up heh.

NitroVenom

TRUST ME!.. They can blow up...[:@]

matts6887

Dang!!!! How the heck did that happen nitrovenom!!! [X(]

racemaxx24

Overheated!!![sm=cry_smile.gif][sm=drowning.gif][sm=spinnyeyes.gif]

Stambone

Jake I wasnt saying anything wrong I am a new owner and watch your threads closely as all the guys giving advise I write some of it down just incase.....when you open multiple threads for the same subject everything gets lost and mixed up and seems like theres no solution just everyone posting the same as your other threads...............Bashing? Never bashed you ever on here and on your other posts I posted some stuff that helped me as a new owner. Jake you need to read carefully before you accuse someone of bashing you if what i wrote is bashing then sorry.

Like I said keep one post open so all the guys in here dont double and triple post what others are suggesting.

I wanna see you say I fired my truck up and burned nitro.

Maybe you understand now that I was not bashing you.

jaketrouble

ok,, no luck!!!! my buddy brought down 2 fully charged batteries and i had 2 brandnew batteries that i charged with the stock charger.. the piston is at the bottom and is not sticking..when it does i unstick it and try again.. i tried taking out the glow plug per traxxas and then put in the wand to spin it.. but all 4 batteries sounds like they are too weak.

i called traxxas again and he wanted to hear it crank.. he told me it sounds like weak batteries.. but i told him that this guy has been in this hobby for 3 years and i think he knows how to charge a battery.. not to mention the 2 batteries i charged for hours!! we tried two different wands.. it really does sound like weak batteries but i dont see how we could have 4 batteries and none of them work..

so traxxas said they would send me a new wand and a new ezstart motor.. has anyone else had this problem?? this really sucks!! i had this truck for over a week now and still no fun... do you guys think it could be the ezstart motor??? jake