JohnVH

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Wondering how large of a field is needed for them? I had someone tell me with a 28lb 33% Lanier 300s that Id need 6-800' for that plane.
My closest field is only 400' or so.

Also wondering, with all the ARFs in that range that are out there, which are a really good choice. Im considering the following and would appreciate some of your input.

A built Lanier 300s, 28lbs and a Quadra 100xl RTF.

The Aeroworks edges, 31% or 33%, not sure yet, probably 31%

The Hanger9 ARFs, Cap232 and the Sukhoi

The Lanier 30% Arf

Those are the ones I am considering at this time. Is one more practical than another? I know the bigger the plane, the larger the engine.....
Thanks very much.

Flyfalcons

John,
With the braking action provided by the grass at our field I think any of the planes will slow well once down. We have a member flying a 37% Extra off the field with no real difficulties. We also have a member with a H9 33% Extra and it handles the field just fine.

No matter what you get, I'm assuming you'll need a test pilot? You'd have to allow me some time to dial it in for you; would 50-60 flights work?

PS I think the Lanier Edge would be killer.

JohnVH

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My, aren't you a funny one: Ill let you watch

I figured that field would be big enough, Ive seen a 40% flown off 400' so surely we could fly smaller off the same.

Thanks! See you Saturday

CAPtain232

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John,

I have seen MANY 33-40% planes fly off of a 300ft runway. If you go to some of the shows, you will notice that some of the guys can get a plane to touch down and stop rolling in less than 100 ft. on pavement. Really depends on the flying style. I would think that300 would be a good minimum......I hope because that is all I have!!!

mglavin

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My local club which is five minutes from my home [VBG] has a 380' long runway. I fly my 40% models from here without issues. My 40% Carden Cap uses a little more of the runway than the Extra, Giles or Edge but hey it's a CAP... Setup the landing and hit the tarmac with the wheels at the beginning of the runway and you have another 300' to slow it down....

300' for some models and pilot's will be pushing it. I suspect it would be model specific, probably less issue with an Edge or similar model...

wgeffon

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My 33% Cap lands like a trainer.

I dont think you'd have a problem where your at John.

JohnVH

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Thanks guys,

Now my other question, out of the choices I have up there, which would be considered the better of the bunch? Or are there some good and bad points to any of them or is it all personal preference?

Thanks

wgeffon

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Excatly!

JohnVH

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I hear ya Wayne.

What about this thought. I listed that 33% Lanier 300s, its RTF and will cost ALOT less than all the planes I have listed once they are done. Would this be a good aerobatic plane? I realize its not as overpowered as one would like with that engine, but it is flying.
Appreciate opinions on this.
Thanks

wgeffon

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John,

I dont have any experience with that plane. Any pics of it? What does it weigh? etc etc.

JohnVH

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Oh, its 102" ws, 28lbs, quadra 100xl.

Here is a pic off Laniers website, good looking plane.



The second one is one I found in the swapshop a while ago.


Here is another, I like this scheme!

Mike Wiz

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John,

A few years back there was a very prominent member of the IMAC mailing list (Branwell McClory was his name) that use to extol the virtues of the Q100XL over the 3W 120 twins of the day.

He flew a Carden 35% Cap with a Q100XL that replaced his 3W120. From all his descriptions and photos I think it hovered the plane pretty well.

Last I knew Branwell had become big proponent for BME. Still, I think if you could ask him he'd tell you the Q100XL is a pretty good solution for people on a budget.

Also, former TOC pilot Don Szczur used a Q100XL in an Aeroworks 40% G202. That plane also hovered pretty well. I believe it graced the cover of MAN once.


I think both of those planes were in the weight range you are talking about, 24-28 lbs. If the Q100 flew well in those planes back in the day then it can't be all bad today.

Personally, I've heard Q100s can sometimes have a vibration problem due to a poor MFGing on the prop hub/adaptor. I know Tru-Turn makes a replacement part, but I think it might be a little expensive.

If I were you, I'd go with the Q100 powered Lainer Extra just because it sounds like an affordable way for you to get into giant scale and it probably fly’s pretty well if it was built properly.

I hope this helps.

Wiz

Aerohead

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I know you've already seen it, but I couldn't resist another chance to brag. It's a Lanier that's got a BME102, JR4721's and 8411's and Futaba 9 ch. PCM. It does decent 3D and good precision aerobatics for IMAC, and is just fun to fly. For all-out 3D, you can't beat an H9 1/3 Cap with a DA-100 (got one of these, too), but it's alot more expensive than the Lanier Extra300. I hear alot about the Lanier Edge with a ZDZ80, too. Great 3D and not such a blow to the pocketbook. Oh, the Lanier Extra in the pic weighs in at 26 pounds.

JohnVH

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Cool, thanks!

Mike, you are right, this way will probably be $1000 less than going any of the other routes I listed.

Aero, that plane looks very nice!! Wish I could see one fly!

Flyfalcons

I've seen one fly. Very impressive. It was flying at speeds that I thought would induce flutter, but it didn't seem to have any problems.

JohnVH

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Thanks for all the opinions!!

Going against the poll I found a killer deal on the H9 sukhoi so I got it!

Now for an engine, thinking zdz80?
servo's?

Flyfalcons

You made a deal at the show already? It hasn't even started yet!

I've seen one go with a BME 102 that was amazing.

JohnVH

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Mwahahaa

The place was crawling with people. got it new from Chief For a screaming deal

I think the zdz80 would be a good compromise with power and weight, as Wgeffons cap hovers no prob with it, and its alot cheaper than a twin!!

Flyfalcons

Are they doing more screaming deals? Or was this for the show plane?

JohnVH

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The show special is a GREAT deal, but mine was a little more special.

wgeffon

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John,

I forgot to answer the servo question to you in the PM I sent you.

I have 8411's for the tail surfaces and 4735's for the wings.
I run 3 matchboxes. One for each wing and one for the rudder.
The elevator matching is done in a mix.

JohnVH

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Perfect thanks!

I happen to have 4 8411's so Ill grab the others today at the show!

Aerohead

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Good for you, John. I know you've done a great deal of research before you made this purchase. I think one reason why the Cap scored higher in your pole is that it has been out there for quite awhile and alot more people have them. I'm sure, though, that you will love the Sukhoi. I've got the H9 Cap and it is awesome but I know the Sukhoi is , too, and I'm in the process right now of getting another BME102 to go in the Sukhoi. Let us know how it goes. Post some pictures to keep us updated. Enjoy yourself, man.

JohnVH

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Cool thanks!! I cant believe how big the cowl is. It fits on my head no problem

Picked up a couple match boxes and some 4735's for it and already had the 8411's

I am going to buy a ZDZ80 I think. Sounds like more than enough engine and the price is better than a new twin!