I don't know what to do!
04-06-2011, 03:50 PM
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Hi all,
I have a cane chassis crawler, roughly super class size, that's a few years old now, made out of a single piece of U-shaped aluminum bracket, with two sub-brackets each end. When it was new it allowed just the right amount of articulation. It has clod axles w/ 9t pinions, integy 55t motors on the axles, 3 cells on each axle, and a novak goat esc. Hitec servos both ends (4 wheel steer), I forget the torque rating but they're good.
Trouble is, well two problems. Metal fatigue has taken its toll on the chassis. Also the bolts holding the axles on to the aluminum have totally worn away the drill holes (softer metal) and I've used up available spaces to drill new ones now. Also the clod axles are worn, the front one is no longer locked and um... bad things have happened to the screws and short of busting it apart I can't get at them to fix. It's all rusted... basisally they're done. Time to move on to a modern axle.
Well, I'm glad I owned a cane, I still think they're cool, but I'm ready for a change now. A chassis that isn't going to need constant work. I don't know what to do though - the electric gear on here is still decent.
I'm thinking I need a new rolling chassis, I was thinking I could build a Bully or XR10 kit. But, hell, these aren't cheap in the UK and god knows the support for crawling here seem truly more awful than ever. Spare parts for anything RC4WD seems almost impossible and it's barely any better with Axial.
Used ones, RTR, are usually for sale cheaper than kits. Which makes that seem so much more sensible. But then I've still got my leftover electrics, on a crawler I can't really sell as it is, and I don't want to sell parts separately. Plus, I like building myself - for the usual reasons.
So, this is a dilemma. £325 is a hell of a lot for a chassis, which is what the Bully is on ebay UK. The XR10 kit is £275, that's enough given that it doesn't even come with foams and tires. I could re-use the moabs from my current rig I guess.
Hell, what to do? Any UK folks on here with any thoughts re: support?
I should clarify - this is for bashing, not comps. And I like bigger rigs, the bigger, the better. I'd love a 1:6 or 1:5 scale in a crawler but, dream on.
Thanks
I have a cane chassis crawler, roughly super class size, that's a few years old now, made out of a single piece of U-shaped aluminum bracket, with two sub-brackets each end. When it was new it allowed just the right amount of articulation. It has clod axles w/ 9t pinions, integy 55t motors on the axles, 3 cells on each axle, and a novak goat esc. Hitec servos both ends (4 wheel steer), I forget the torque rating but they're good.
Trouble is, well two problems. Metal fatigue has taken its toll on the chassis. Also the bolts holding the axles on to the aluminum have totally worn away the drill holes (softer metal) and I've used up available spaces to drill new ones now. Also the clod axles are worn, the front one is no longer locked and um... bad things have happened to the screws and short of busting it apart I can't get at them to fix. It's all rusted... basisally they're done. Time to move on to a modern axle.
Well, I'm glad I owned a cane, I still think they're cool, but I'm ready for a change now. A chassis that isn't going to need constant work. I don't know what to do though - the electric gear on here is still decent.
I'm thinking I need a new rolling chassis, I was thinking I could build a Bully or XR10 kit. But, hell, these aren't cheap in the UK and god knows the support for crawling here seem truly more awful than ever. Spare parts for anything RC4WD seems almost impossible and it's barely any better with Axial.
Used ones, RTR, are usually for sale cheaper than kits. Which makes that seem so much more sensible. But then I've still got my leftover electrics, on a crawler I can't really sell as it is, and I don't want to sell parts separately. Plus, I like building myself - for the usual reasons.
So, this is a dilemma. £325 is a hell of a lot for a chassis, which is what the Bully is on ebay UK. The XR10 kit is £275, that's enough given that it doesn't even come with foams and tires. I could re-use the moabs from my current rig I guess.
Hell, what to do? Any UK folks on here with any thoughts re: support?
I should clarify - this is for bashing, not comps. And I like bigger rigs, the bigger, the better. I'd love a 1:6 or 1:5 scale in a crawler but, dream on.
Thanks
04-07-2011, 05:03 AM
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RE: I don't know what to do!
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Hi all,
I have a cane chassis crawler, roughly super class size, that's a few years old now, made out of a single piece of U-shaped aluminum bracket, with two sub-brackets each end. When it was new it allowed just the right amount of articulation. It has clod axles w/ 9t pinions, integy 55t motors on the axles, 3 cells on each axle, and a novak goat esc. Hitec servos both ends (4 wheel steer), I forget the torque rating but they're good.
Trouble is, well two problems. Metal fatigue has taken its toll on the chassis. Also the bolts holding the axles on to the aluminum have totally worn away the drill holes (softer metal) and I've used up available spaces to drill new ones now. Also the clod axles are worn, the front one is no longer locked and um... bad things have happened to the screws and short of busting it apart I can't get at them to fix. It's all rusted... basisally they're done. Time to move on to a modern axle.
Well, I'm glad I owned a cane, I still think they're cool, but I'm ready for a change now. A chassis that isn't going to need constant work. I don't know what to do though - the electric gear on here is still decent.
I'm thinking I need a new rolling chassis, I was thinking I could build a Bully or XR10 kit. But, hell, these aren't cheap in the UK and god knows the support for crawling here seem truly more awful than ever. Spare parts for anything RC4WD seems almost impossible and it's barely any better with Axial.
Used ones, RTR, are usually for sale cheaper than kits. Which makes that seem so much more sensible. But then I've still got my leftover electrics, on a crawler I can't really sell as it is, and I don't want to sell parts separately. Plus, I like building myself - for the usual reasons.
So, this is a dilemma. £325 is a hell of a lot for a chassis, which is what the Bully is on ebay UK. The XR10 kit is £275, that's enough given that it doesn't even come with foams and tires. I could re-use the moabs from my current rig I guess.
Hell, what to do? Any UK folks on here with any thoughts re: support?
I should clarify - this is for bashing, not comps. And I like bigger rigs, the bigger, the better. I'd love a 1:6 or 1:5 scale in a crawler but, dream on.
Thanks
Hi all,
I have a cane chassis crawler, roughly super class size, that's a few years old now, made out of a single piece of U-shaped aluminum bracket, with two sub-brackets each end. When it was new it allowed just the right amount of articulation. It has clod axles w/ 9t pinions, integy 55t motors on the axles, 3 cells on each axle, and a novak goat esc. Hitec servos both ends (4 wheel steer), I forget the torque rating but they're good.
Trouble is, well two problems. Metal fatigue has taken its toll on the chassis. Also the bolts holding the axles on to the aluminum have totally worn away the drill holes (softer metal) and I've used up available spaces to drill new ones now. Also the clod axles are worn, the front one is no longer locked and um... bad things have happened to the screws and short of busting it apart I can't get at them to fix. It's all rusted... basisally they're done. Time to move on to a modern axle.
Well, I'm glad I owned a cane, I still think they're cool, but I'm ready for a change now. A chassis that isn't going to need constant work. I don't know what to do though - the electric gear on here is still decent.
I'm thinking I need a new rolling chassis, I was thinking I could build a Bully or XR10 kit. But, hell, these aren't cheap in the UK and god knows the support for crawling here seem truly more awful than ever. Spare parts for anything RC4WD seems almost impossible and it's barely any better with Axial.
Used ones, RTR, are usually for sale cheaper than kits. Which makes that seem so much more sensible. But then I've still got my leftover electrics, on a crawler I can't really sell as it is, and I don't want to sell parts separately. Plus, I like building myself - for the usual reasons.
So, this is a dilemma. £325 is a hell of a lot for a chassis, which is what the Bully is on ebay UK. The XR10 kit is £275, that's enough given that it doesn't even come with foams and tires. I could re-use the moabs from my current rig I guess.
Hell, what to do? Any UK folks on here with any thoughts re: support?
I should clarify - this is for bashing, not comps. And I like bigger rigs, the bigger, the better. I'd love a 1:6 or 1:5 scale in a crawler but, dream on.
Thanks
04-07-2011, 12:36 PM
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RE: I don't know what to do!
Hehe, building a custom 1/5er just ain't gonna happen at the moment. I do not gots the work space like I used to atm. I'm working on the damn bedroom floor here - I do my soldering on top of my metal parts case.
I'd love to do it one day though. I'd better start saving for those axles now. I bet they ain't cheap.
Nah I want to out this stuff into a proper chassis for now. No screwing around with sheet metal atm.
I'd love to do it one day though. I'd better start saving for those axles now. I bet they ain't cheap.
Nah I want to out this stuff into a proper chassis for now. No screwing around with sheet metal atm.
04-14-2011, 11:52 AM
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RE: I don't know what to do!
Found out rossendale models supply the 1/5 RC4WD crawler...
http://www.rossmod.co.uk/product/128...wler_15_Silver
A cool £817.32... or well over a thousand bucks. And that's before electrics and wheels.
I'd love to build one up. Time to rob a bank?
http://www.rossmod.co.uk/product/128...wler_15_Silver
A cool £817.32... or well over a thousand bucks. And that's before electrics and wheels.
I'd love to build one up. Time to rob a bank?
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RE: I don't know what to do!
im not familer with your crawler but ive looked at lots trying to find the right one for me and thought about making my own out of a few poly cutting bords it might work a drill and a miter box / chop saw or drimmel
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Haha good try with the ASCII crawler there.
Yeah, making your own chassis is fun, and I'm sure I'll try again one day, maybe something more complex than a stick too. But though it's not that hard to do, it's hard to do well. Getting max articulation right is the hardest thing. You want it to flex but you don't want it over-twisting itself into a mess that just tumbles off the rocks. Trial and error.
Yeah, making your own chassis is fun, and I'm sure I'll try again one day, maybe something more complex than a stick too. But though it's not that hard to do, it's hard to do well. Getting max articulation right is the hardest thing. You want it to flex but you don't want it over-twisting itself into a mess that just tumbles off the rocks. Trial and error.
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RE: I don't know what to do!
I make my own chassis but i got the aid of CNC mills 
Simply put here's how I made mine before all that fun stuff!
Lay the car out at the wheelbase you want. Attach the link sizes you want for the lowers {who cares about the uppers for now} Also attach the shocks to the car
Take a big sheet of cardboard, graph paper, whatever you like to use and set it up against the links. Set the aprox shock angle you want
Take and mark the drill points you want also.
Then trace around it an aprox shape, keep it simple, you can make it fancier later.
Transfer to either some aluminum or Delrin plastic
Drill holes
Cut design out
And hey-presto were done [8D]
If you want any more help, lemie know, i have done this long enough to know a thing or two about making them
Simply put here's how I made mine before all that fun stuff!
Lay the car out at the wheelbase you want. Attach the link sizes you want for the lowers {who cares about the uppers for now} Also attach the shocks to the car
Take a big sheet of cardboard, graph paper, whatever you like to use and set it up against the links. Set the aprox shock angle you want
Take and mark the drill points you want also.
Then trace around it an aprox shape, keep it simple, you can make it fancier later.
Transfer to either some aluminum or Delrin plastic
Drill holes
Cut design out
And hey-presto were done [8D]
If you want any more help, lemie know, i have done this long enough to know a thing or two about making them
