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A lot of their arguments are stupid though. People are saying well if you put a BB in a revo it'll smoke a savage.... yeah duh that's twice the power of the stock engine what do you expect? Power to weight ratio.... that's the key. If you stuck an engine twice the size of the .28 in a savage it'd probably scream too.
A lot of their arguments are stupid though. People are saying well if you put a BB in a revo it'll smoke a savage.... yeah duh that's twice the power of the stock engine what do you expect? Power to weight ratio.... that's the key. If you stuck an engine twice the size of the .28 in a savage it'd probably scream too.
What about an OS .18? That's the same stepup as going from the Savage 25 to the 4.6ss... With an OS .18 in a Revo, the Savage 4.6SS would lose. (Straight line) With a TM323 (such as the one I have..) it would be even worse...
I'm not trying to start a flame war or anger anybody. It just seems about the same to me as someone with a stock Mustang GT bragging the beat a stock v6 Camaro.
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Good driving is what that was...
I'll probably get the Savage, but the adjustability on that new Warhead is pretty sweet. Wouldn't it be nice if HPI sold shock towers and A arms that copied the Warheads rumble/race design? You could drop the Savage down to less than 2 inches in less than 15min. That'd make the Savage pretty much race ready especially the 4.6
I'll probably get the Savage, but the adjustability on that new Warhead is pretty sweet. Wouldn't it be nice if HPI sold shock towers and A arms that copied the Warheads rumble/race design? You could drop the Savage down to less than 2 inches in less than 15min. That'd make the Savage pretty much race ready especially the 4.6
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yeah that os .18 in a revo is really fast... can't argue with that. I was just pointing it out that some people were saying putting a BB conversion in it and blah blah blah... i just thought that was stupid.
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What about an OS .18? That's the same stepup as going from the Savage 25 to the 4.6ss... With an OS .18 in a Revo, the Savage 4.6SS would lose. (Straight line) With a TM323 (such as the one I have..) it would be even worse...
Agreed. LOL. I think it's funny that HPI had to stick a .28 in the Savage to be able to compete with the .15 in the Revo... 'cause a Savage 25 doesn't really stand much of a chance... and neither does the .21. As stated in the Traxxas forums .... it's a competition that will never be won. You Savage guys will always argue that the Savage is tougher, and us Revo guys will always prove the Revo is tougher and better... so, who cares? Stop bench racing... and play with your trucks... what is arguing ever going to prove?
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A lot of their arguments are stupid though. People are saying well if you put a BB in a revo it'll smoke a savage.... yeah duh that's twice the power of the stock engine what do you expect? Power to weight ratio.... that's the key. If you stuck an engine twice the size of the .28 in a savage it'd probably scream too.
A lot of their arguments are stupid though. People are saying well if you put a BB in a revo it'll smoke a savage.... yeah duh that's twice the power of the stock engine what do you expect? Power to weight ratio.... that's the key. If you stuck an engine twice the size of the .28 in a savage it'd probably scream too.
What about an OS .18? That's the same stepup as going from the Savage 25 to the 4.6ss... With an OS .18 in a Revo, the Savage 4.6SS would lose. (Straight line) With a TM323 (such as the one I have..) it would be even worse...
I'm not trying to start a flame war or anger anybody. It just seems about the same to me as someone with a stock Mustang GT bragging the beat a stock v6 Camaro.
12-05-2005, 09:40 PM
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OK, but the point was... the ORIGINAL Savage was the .21, right? Then... they did a "conversion" to a .25.. and now they have a "conversion" to the .28.. so, what's the difference between the varying Savages and putting a BB in a Revo? A simple .18 will make the Revo fast enough to beat a .28-powered Savage... so, what's the point? the 2.5r powered Revo will beat both the .21 and .25 Savages... in a straight-line race... and at the track (since we all know Savages aren't the best racers without some modifications...) The only difference between the "converted" Savage and the "converted" Revo is that HPI makes the kit... and Revo owners have to use a different mount (OS .18tm, RB TM323, and Picco .26 are direct drop-in motors... and with ANY of those mentioned will KILL a 4.6SS)... so, what's the difference? I think it's really funny that 4.6SS owners think it's such a feat to be faster than a .15 powered Revo. LOL 
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yeah that os .18 in a revo is really fast... can't argue with that. I was just pointing it out that some people were saying putting a BB conversion in it and blah blah blah... i just thought that was stupid.
yeah that os .18 in a revo is really fast... can't argue with that. I was just pointing it out that some people were saying putting a BB conversion in it and blah blah blah... i just thought that was stupid.
12-05-2005, 09:43 PM
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I just had to point out that the Savage weighs 50% more than the Revo, and the revo decked out with the vantage carbon fiber stuff weighs like 7 pounds. the savage weighs almost double that. that's why HPI put a .28 in the savage.
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What about an OS .18? That's the same stepup as going from the Savage 25 to the 4.6ss... With an OS .18 in a Revo, the Savage 4.6SS would lose. (Straight line) With a TM323 (such as the one I have..) it would be even worse...
Agreed. LOL. I think it's funny that HPI had to stick a .28 in the Savage to be able to compete with the .15 in the Revo... 'cause a Savage 25 doesn't really stand much of a chance... and neither does the .21. As stated in the Traxxas forums .... it's a competition that will never be won. You Savage guys will always argue that the Savage is tougher, and us Revo guys will always prove the Revo is tougher and better... so, who cares? Stop bench racing... and play with your trucks... what is arguing ever going to prove?
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A lot of their arguments are stupid though. People are saying well if you put a BB in a revo it'll smoke a savage.... yeah duh that's twice the power of the stock engine what do you expect? Power to weight ratio.... that's the key. If you stuck an engine twice the size of the .28 in a savage it'd probably scream too.
A lot of their arguments are stupid though. People are saying well if you put a BB in a revo it'll smoke a savage.... yeah duh that's twice the power of the stock engine what do you expect? Power to weight ratio.... that's the key. If you stuck an engine twice the size of the .28 in a savage it'd probably scream too.
What about an OS .18? That's the same stepup as going from the Savage 25 to the 4.6ss... With an OS .18 in a Revo, the Savage 4.6SS would lose. (Straight line) With a TM323 (such as the one I have..) it would be even worse...
I'm not trying to start a flame war or anger anybody. It just seems about the same to me as someone with a stock Mustang GT bragging the beat a stock v6 Camaro.
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What about an OS .18? That's the same stepup as going from the Savage 25 to the 4.6ss... With an OS .18 in a Revo, the Savage 4.6SS would lose. (Straight line) With a TM323 (such as the one I have..) it would be even worse...
Agreed. LOL. I think it's funny that HPI had to stick a .28 in the Savage to be able to compete with the .15 in the Revo... 'cause a Savage 25 doesn't really stand much of a chance... and neither does the .21. As stated in the Traxxas forums .... it's a competition that will never be won. You Savage guys will always argue that the Savage is tougher, and us Revo guys will always prove the Revo is tougher and better... so, who cares? Stop bench racing... and play with your trucks... what is arguing ever going to prove?
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A lot of their arguments are stupid though. People are saying well if you put a BB in a revo it'll smoke a savage.... yeah duh that's twice the power of the stock engine what do you expect? Power to weight ratio.... that's the key. If you stuck an engine twice the size of the .28 in a savage it'd probably scream too.
A lot of their arguments are stupid though. People are saying well if you put a BB in a revo it'll smoke a savage.... yeah duh that's twice the power of the stock engine what do you expect? Power to weight ratio.... that's the key. If you stuck an engine twice the size of the .28 in a savage it'd probably scream too.
What about an OS .18? That's the same stepup as going from the Savage 25 to the 4.6ss... With an OS .18 in a Revo, the Savage 4.6SS would lose. (Straight line) With a TM323 (such as the one I have..) it would be even worse...
I'm not trying to start a flame war or anger anybody. It just seems about the same to me as someone with a stock Mustang GT bragging the beat a stock v6 Camaro.
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my savage weighs 13pounds. The Revo weighs 9.4. That's about 16% lighter than a Savage, and the SS 4.6 probably weighs even more than 13lbs. the vantage chassis takes off 167 grams of weight from ur revo. then the a-arms are more weight take off. 7lbs was a guess. I say closer to 8lbs. but still... that's about 38% lighter than a stock savage
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my savage weighs 13pounds. The Revo weighs 9. That's about 31% lighter than a Savage, and the SS 4.6 probably weighs even more than 13lbs. the vantage chassis takes off 167 grams of weight from ur revo. then the a-arms are more weight take off. 7lbs was a guess. I say closer to 8lbs. but still... that's about 46% lighter than a savage
my savage weighs 13pounds. The Revo weighs 9. That's about 31% lighter than a Savage, and the SS 4.6 probably weighs even more than 13lbs. the vantage chassis takes off 167 grams of weight from ur revo. then the a-arms are more weight take off. 7lbs was a guess. I say closer to 8lbs. but still... that's about 46% lighter than a savage
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Get outta here troll....
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What about an OS .18? That's the same stepup as going from the Savage 25 to the 4.6ss... With an OS .18 in a Revo, the Savage 4.6SS would lose. (Straight line) With a TM323 (such as the one I have..) it would be even worse...
Agreed. LOL. I think it's funny that HPI had to stick a .28 in the Savage to be able to compete with the .15 in the Revo... 'cause a Savage 25 doesn't really stand much of a chance... and neither does the .21. As stated in the Traxxas forums .... it's a competition that will never be won. You Savage guys will always argue that the Savage is tougher, and us Revo guys will always prove the Revo is tougher and better... so, who cares? Stop bench racing... and play with your trucks... what is arguing ever going to prove?
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A lot of their arguments are stupid though. People are saying well if you put a BB in a revo it'll smoke a savage.... yeah duh that's twice the power of the stock engine what do you expect? Power to weight ratio.... that's the key. If you stuck an engine twice the size of the .28 in a savage it'd probably scream too.
A lot of their arguments are stupid though. People are saying well if you put a BB in a revo it'll smoke a savage.... yeah duh that's twice the power of the stock engine what do you expect? Power to weight ratio.... that's the key. If you stuck an engine twice the size of the .28 in a savage it'd probably scream too.
What about an OS .18? That's the same stepup as going from the Savage 25 to the 4.6ss... With an OS .18 in a Revo, the Savage 4.6SS would lose. (Straight line) With a TM323 (such as the one I have..) it would be even worse...
I'm not trying to start a flame war or anger anybody. It just seems about the same to me as someone with a stock Mustang GT bragging the beat a stock v6 Camaro.
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REVOFAMILY....people like you are the main reason i hate people that drive traxxas products. just like i dont like people that drive hondas...all they do is brag about how fast their car is and how it can beat a camaro or mustang in a race, thay are all usually little punks, kinda like you. traxxas and hondas are both good products but its the owners that give them a bad name
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my savage weighs 13pounds. The Revo weighs 9. That's about 31% lighter than a Savage, and the SS 4.6 probably weighs even more than 13lbs. the vantage chassis takes off 167 grams of weight from ur revo. then the a-arms are more weight take off. 7lbs was a guess. I say closer to 8lbs. but still... that's about 46% lighter than a savage
my savage weighs 13pounds. The Revo weighs 9. That's about 31% lighter than a Savage, and the SS 4.6 probably weighs even more than 13lbs. the vantage chassis takes off 167 grams of weight from ur revo. then the a-arms are more weight take off. 7lbs was a guess. I say closer to 8lbs. but still... that's about 46% lighter than a savage
Still that is a moot point. The disscussion was about the comparrison of box stock trucks. That means no mods at all. No new motors, no new chassis/tvp's, no fuel line on the shocks...box stock.
A box stock Savage 25 RTR weighs 11.2 lbs +/- according to Tower. I could not find the weight on HPI's site nor could I find a listed weight for the 4.6. A stock Revo weighs 9.4lbs per Traxxas web site. That's only 16% lighter.
CR500rider, Why are you calling names??? This, so far has been a reasonable disscussion with a lot of people making points. Please don't ruin it.
I don't really see that much difference in people that brag about their Savage and those that brag about their Revo/T-Maxx.
Isn't the CR500 a Honda?????
12-05-2005, 11:55 PM
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REVOFAMILY....people like you are the main reason i hate people that drive traxxas products. just like i dont like people that drive hondas...all they do is brag about how fast their car is and how it can beat a camaro or mustang in a race, thay are all usually little punks, kinda like you. traxxas and hondas are both good products but its the owners that give them a bad name
REVOFAMILY....people like you are the main reason i hate people that drive traxxas products. just like i dont like people that drive hondas...all they do is brag about how fast their car is and how it can beat a camaro or mustang in a race, thay are all usually little punks, kinda like you. traxxas and hondas are both good products but its the owners that give them a bad name
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CR500rider, Why are you calling names??? This, so far has been a reasonable disscussion with a lot of people making points. Please don't ruin it.
I don't really see that much difference in people that brag about their Savage and those that brag about their Revo/T-Maxx.
Isn't the CR500 a Honda?????
CR500rider, Why are you calling names??? This, so far has been a reasonable disscussion with a lot of people making points. Please don't ruin it.
I don't really see that much difference in people that brag about their Savage and those that brag about their Revo/T-Maxx.
Isn't the CR500 a Honda?????
im just tired of revofamily, all he does is put down other peoples rides because they are not his, everything he has is better than anything anyone else has etc. it just gets old ya know?
12-06-2005, 12:03 AM
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ha ha, yes my bike is a honda, i was talking about cars im just tired of revofamily, all he does is put down other peoples rides because they are not his, everything he has is better than anything anyone else has etc. it just gets old ya know?
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CR500rider, Why are you calling names??? This, so far has been a reasonable disscussion with a lot of people making points. Please don't ruin it.
I don't really see that much difference in people that brag about their Savage and those that brag about their Revo/T-Maxx.
Isn't the CR500 a Honda?????
CR500rider, Why are you calling names??? This, so far has been a reasonable disscussion with a lot of people making points. Please don't ruin it.
I don't really see that much difference in people that brag about their Savage and those that brag about their Revo/T-Maxx.
Isn't the CR500 a Honda?????
im just tired of revofamily, all he does is put down other peoples rides because they are not his, everything he has is better than anything anyone else has etc. it just gets old ya know?
P.S. Instead of taking personal attacks at me... perhaps you should do your homework... and contribute something POSITIVE to the post? Just a thought...
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Mods, why hasn't this thread been deleted/closed? DO it now
Mods, why hasn't this thread been deleted/closed? DO it now
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And now this post has gotten outa hand. I don't own a stock savage so i really don't remember what the .25 was like hehe. It's been so long. Anyways keep the personal stuff out of this forum there's no need for it and all it proves is that you have nothing to argue so you fall back on insulting someone. I'm a savage owner... I always have been it's my first nitro RC car and I love it... I personally don't think a Revo can handle bashing like a savage just because of the design. But i've never been with one out bashing so i can't say. I can only go on what i've seen at my LHS... and most of the guys there have broken revo's :-( but it could just be a fluke who knows. I'm not sticking up for any side I like both personally... just try to stay on topic and don't insult people.... there's no reason for it.
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revofamily, i dont know how many posts i have seen where you hype up the revo to br better than everything else, i know i am not the only one that thinks you are extremely biased towards revos. if i remember correctly there was a thread with a heading that said something like "revofamily do not reply to this post" i just think you push things a little too far, that is one reason i dont even look at the traxxas forums anymore and the other reason being that i do not own a traxxas product and havent for a few years now. i stick to reading posts about things i actually own or am interested in buying. i am possitive you are not interested in buying a savage so why are you here stirring up trouble?
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revofamily, i dont know how many posts i have seen where you hype up the revo to br better than everything else, i know i am not the only one that thinks you are extremely biased towards revos. if i remember correctly there was a thread with a heading that said something like "revofamily do not reply to this post" i just think you push things a little too far, that is one reason i dont even look at the traxxas forums anymore and the other reason being that i do not own a traxxas product and havent for a few years now. i stick to reading posts about things i actually own or am interested in buying. i am possitive you are not interested in buying a savage so why are you here stirring up trouble?
revofamily, i dont know how many posts i have seen where you hype up the revo to br better than everything else, i know i am not the only one that thinks you are extremely biased towards revos. if i remember correctly there was a thread with a heading that said something like "revofamily do not reply to this post" i just think you push things a little too far, that is one reason i dont even look at the traxxas forums anymore and the other reason being that i do not own a traxxas product and havent for a few years now. i stick to reading posts about things i actually own or am interested in buying. i am possitive you are not interested in buying a savage so why are you here stirring up trouble?
all he does is put down other peoples rides because they are not his
you hype up the revo to br better than everything else
Also, who said I'm not interested in buying a Savage?
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It does NOT make any sense talking about how much a savage and a revo weighs and do all these mathematic arguments again and again because the horse power/ weight ratio doesn't help explain why is a revo more competitive than a savage! YES a savage with an 28 engine has a much higher HP/weight ratio than a stock revo or one with OS 18 which made it possible to be faster in straight line, but a heavier truck will have a greater inertia which drags down the speed in cornering as well as acceleration which the horse power alone can't help. Any vehicle is a combination of both power and handling.the lightweight revo, together with it's low CG design has left no chance for a heavy savage as a basher.
A .28 savage smokes away a revo in straight line is not proud and so is it when a small block revo wins a savage in local track.
The revo is more like a truggy and the savage is a MONSTER. Let the revos beat truggies and show us their glory if they can since they are all so proud of themselves. Savage owners buy savages more for bashing than racing, though a few race them, it's not that they don't know a revo is faster, only for that all SAVAGE OWNERS love savage so much that it's of more fun to race a savage than an revo. Sometimes you love it not for it's perfect in some respect, only for you've owned it and it's brought you something unque.That's why I love my savage and I shall show respect to those who own a revo. Just stop this nonsense argument.
A .28 savage smokes away a revo in straight line is not proud and so is it when a small block revo wins a savage in local track.
The revo is more like a truggy and the savage is a MONSTER. Let the revos beat truggies and show us their glory if they can since they are all so proud of themselves. Savage owners buy savages more for bashing than racing, though a few race them, it's not that they don't know a revo is faster, only for that all SAVAGE OWNERS love savage so much that it's of more fun to race a savage than an revo. Sometimes you love it not for it's perfect in some respect, only for you've owned it and it's brought you something unque.That's why I love my savage and I shall show respect to those who own a revo. Just stop this nonsense argument.
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It does NOT make any sense talking about how much a savage and a revo weighs and do all these mathematic arguments again and again because the horse power/ weight ratio doesn't help explain why is a revo more competitive than a savage! YES a savage with an 28 engine has a much higher HP/weight ratio than a stock revo or one with OS 18 which made it possible to be faster in straight line, but a heavier truck will have a greater inertia which drags down the speed in cornering as well as acceleration which the horse power alone can't help. Any vehicle is a combination of both power and handling.the lightweight revo, together with it's low CG design has left no chance for a heavy savage as a basher.
A .28 savage smokes away a revo in straight line is not proud and so is it when a small block revo wins a savage in local track.
The revo is more like a truggy and the savage is a MONSTER. Let the revos beat truggies and show us their glory if they can since they are all so proud of themselves. Savage owners buy savages more for bashing than racing, though a few race them, it's not that they don't know a revo is faster, only for that all SAVAGE OWNERS love savage so much that it's of more fun to race a savage than an revo. Sometimes you love it not for it's perfect in some respect, only for you've owned it and it's brought you something unque.That's why I love my savage and I shall show respect to those who own a revo. Just stop this nonsense argument.
It does NOT make any sense talking about how much a savage and a revo weighs and do all these mathematic arguments again and again because the horse power/ weight ratio doesn't help explain why is a revo more competitive than a savage! YES a savage with an 28 engine has a much higher HP/weight ratio than a stock revo or one with OS 18 which made it possible to be faster in straight line, but a heavier truck will have a greater inertia which drags down the speed in cornering as well as acceleration which the horse power alone can't help. Any vehicle is a combination of both power and handling.the lightweight revo, together with it's low CG design has left no chance for a heavy savage as a basher.
A .28 savage smokes away a revo in straight line is not proud and so is it when a small block revo wins a savage in local track.
The revo is more like a truggy and the savage is a MONSTER. Let the revos beat truggies and show us their glory if they can since they are all so proud of themselves. Savage owners buy savages more for bashing than racing, though a few race them, it's not that they don't know a revo is faster, only for that all SAVAGE OWNERS love savage so much that it's of more fun to race a savage than an revo. Sometimes you love it not for it's perfect in some respect, only for you've owned it and it's brought you something unque.That's why I love my savage and I shall show respect to those who own a revo. Just stop this nonsense argument.
