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Old 08-22-2012, 05:35 PM
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Hello friends,

I have reached that magic time in my life where my teenage son said "Dad you need to fly something different, lets build and ME 262" After some soul searching knowing how much time and money is involved I said OK under one condition. We will scratch or plan build this twin turbine beauty. I plan on teaching him how to design/build models.

So my question is does anyone offer a good set of plans, 3 views or short kit? Does anyone have a partially completed project?

I tried a few searches for a descent 3 view drawing but no luck so far. We have a few plastic models on order.

Thanks again, this should be interesting.

Peter D
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email me @ [email protected], I have something you might be able to use!
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here is something I had
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Old 08-22-2012, 06:32 PM
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I just bought this off Ebay http://www.ebay.com/itm/Me-262-facto...item337921b2d3

It has all the info you would ever need to build a model. Not sure when I will get around to building it but at least I have it. How big do you want to build one? I was looking at 1/3.3 to do with a friend. About 126" long. I know that is big but it would be COOL ! Ha !
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Old 08-22-2012, 06:42 PM
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Hello

Thanks for the great info. My trailer will accommodate 102 inch fuselage.
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Butch,
If you cut the plugs, ill glass, litho and detail them!
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Butch,
If you cut the plugs, ill glass, litho and detail them!
That sounds good but I don't know if I'll live long enought to cut it! Ha ! I can tell you that after working with plastic tooling board, that is the way to go. It cost more to start with but cheaper in the long run. You cut it sand it and it is ready to mold ! No glass, no resin, no bondo, no hours of fairing, no problem! It's a heavy plug but it is right!
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That sounds good! Is there a product manufacture or where would a guy get this tooling board?
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Have you guys given any thought about how you would deal with an engine failure/flameout on a model 262. Obviously I have never flown a 262 but I know someone who has, Capt Eric 'Winkle" Brown (still around at 90 plus, signing his books and talking aviation at many UK airshows, he clocked up 447 types and almost 2,500 deck landings, a world record !) he tested and evaluated the 262 at Farnborough after the war and although highly complimentary about its normal flying characteristics(he considers it the most formidable aircraft of the second world war, and he flew them all) is scathing about its single engine performance:

At 160 mph, if you got control inputs in within 2 seconds it could be controlled, just, later than that the situation became "disastrous" , a vicious descending roll developing. (no surprise there, the Canberra and Meteor were similar)

With the cropped fin, a remedy for snaking at high Mach numbers, the SE safety speed was no less than 200 mph, making a Meteor or Canberra on one engine look positively benign !

The description of all this plus lots of technical data is in Eric's book, "Wings of the Luftwaffe" a fascinating read, almost as fascinating as talking to Eric himself. (he also flew the 163 but without rocket power).

An engine failure on a model 262 could ruin your day but we discussed engine out operation on model twins on the thread "Loosing (sic) a turbine on twins" , the solution may be there !!

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That sounds good! Is there a product manufacture or where would a guy get this tooling board?
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Butch,
If you cut the plugs, ill glass, litho and detail them!
That sounds good but I don't know if I'll live long enought to cut it! Ha ! I can tell you that after working with plastic tooling board, that is the way to go. It cost more to start with but cheaper in the long run. You cut it sand it and it is ready to mold ! No glass, no resin, no bondo, no hours of fairing, no problem! It's a heavy plug but it is right!
Butch
Lol. I know what you mean, to many projects, to little time.
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Hustler58, The link seems to have a problem? IE or Foxfire same redirect problem.
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No David I have never thought about it! But thanks for bringing it up. You have no idea how much I appreciate your words of wisdom when you pipe in thinking we are not a smart as you ! I do appreciate you posting your resume each time you have a comment to let everyone know we are beneath you with aviation experiance.
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No David I have never thought about it! But thanks for bringing it up. You have no idea how much I appreciate your words of wisdom when you pipe in thinking we are not a smart as you ! I do appreciate you posting your resume each time you have a comment to let everyone know we are beneath you with aviation experiance.

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Been my experience on Me 262 (models from 1/4 scale to 1/6 both turbine &amp; electric powered .) On my 1/4 scale &amp; 1/6 scale if you do lose a turbine On Take off your DEAD. (call the crash crew &amp; get the trash bags) .. Adverse Yaw rears it head and the rudder is not big enough , Once airborne I never lost a fan or turbine In fact it flys like a kite , Did lose a edf unit on landing ( airworld me 262) ,did not notice any ill effects as the throttle was back to idle ....... and noticed a smoke trail coming from the port nacelle.
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GREAT father and son project
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Hustler58, The link seems to have a problem? IE or Foxfire same redirect problem.
I'm not sure whats wrong. I have it in my saved searches and it comes up, but when I click on the link it doesn't work. Let me figure what is wrong. Sorry I'll get you the link.

Try this. http://www.toolchemical.com/c-590-tc...ng-planks.aspx
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Joe,

Your the expert. You have built many. The semi kit you made for twin turbines is the best I have seen. The workmanship is incredible. Just need to find the wheels and brakes to go with the gear I got from you.

Dave
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Hustler58, thanks, work great good to know I haven't found a good source of like material here in the PHX area!
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Grumania makes a kit
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Did a big twin 120 mm edf project a few years ago. Back then we were still trying to get all the bugs out of twin edf....video is a bit long but I think well done. It gives all the details etc if your looking for a project. Still see a few JS kits pop on RCU every once in a while.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyVpz...e_gdata_player


Still flying this one and for now. No flameouts.
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Have you guys given any thought about how you would deal with an engine failure/flameout on a model 262.
Some guys on RCU were building a pair of 262's but the Me 262C1-a variant, a rocket boosted version with shorter rudder &
a tailpipe at the back for a single engine install. I think they fudged the size of the outlet & the intake ducting is a mystery to
me but if you are not too worried about exact scale appearance it could be a safer way to model this beautiful plane.

Is it just me or does a twin turbine model lack that exciting twin sound that prop driven models have?

A friend is building a 2 metre (Airworld?) version for a pair of Wren 44's, it worries me! - John.

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