Help Needed - Flap Setup
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Help Needed - Flap Setup
I am setting up the Ultra Flash , and have using a 12FG radio
setup the type as 2 ail and 2 flaps , and tail as Ailevator
flaps work ok , but i cant find how to mix in down elevator
also on my old JR 9303 there was a flaps program mix built in the system , that would combine elevator and flaps
now i can only set up end point ( iee switch at top or bottom) , and when switch is in the middle , i dont have the option to position the flap ( i used to like doing that the switch facing up would be zero flap , middle take off flap , and bottom landing )
if i use offset , then it messes up the end points on the flaps
what am i doing wrong ?
thanks
Izzy
setup the type as 2 ail and 2 flaps , and tail as Ailevator
flaps work ok , but i cant find how to mix in down elevator
also on my old JR 9303 there was a flaps program mix built in the system , that would combine elevator and flaps
now i can only set up end point ( iee switch at top or bottom) , and when switch is in the middle , i dont have the option to position the flap ( i used to like doing that the switch facing up would be zero flap , middle take off flap , and bottom landing )
if i use offset , then it messes up the end points on the flaps
what am i doing wrong ?
thanks
Izzy
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RE: Help Needed - Flap Setup
Ummmmm, I think you are in the right spot. Right above the Flap settings are your elevator settings. Set up the Down or Up value for the particular flap setting. It's right there in the pic you posted..
Similar to this on my 14 MZ.
Dan
Similar to this on my 14 MZ.
Dan
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RE: Help Needed - Flap Setup
ORIGINAL: Sparhawk
Ummmmm, I think you are in the right spot. Right above the Flap settings are your elevator settings. Set up the Down or Up value for the particular flap setting. It's right there in the pic you posted..
Similar to this on my 14 MZ.
Dan
Ummmmm, I think you are in the right spot. Right above the Flap settings are your elevator settings. Set up the Down or Up value for the particular flap setting. It's right there in the pic you posted..
Similar to this on my 14 MZ.
Dan
the JR9303 is the picture i added ( and what i find missing in Futaba 12 FG
is there anything like this on te 12FG >???
this is what i found ,, but no mix for elevators ( i am using 2 channels for 2 ele servos)
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RE: Help Needed - Flap Setup
You will find it all in the Airbrake function, ailerons up, flaps down, elevator trim and servo slow for all functions.
To set switch flap positions you will have to set up model functions I think its called, will look it up in the morning to confirm, you can set up rates, trim, flap positions et all, but I prefere to put the flaps on the side slider and the elevator trim automatic to the position of the slider, ie. 25% slider take off flap, 50%slider landing flap and small elevator deflection 75% slider flaps near full down, ailerons starting to reflex and elevator compensation, 100% slider full flap, full aileron reflex and full elevator compensation.
Mike
To set switch flap positions you will have to set up model functions I think its called, will look it up in the morning to confirm, you can set up rates, trim, flap positions et all, but I prefere to put the flaps on the side slider and the elevator trim automatic to the position of the slider, ie. 25% slider take off flap, 50%slider landing flap and small elevator deflection 75% slider flaps near full down, ailerons starting to reflex and elevator compensation, 100% slider full flap, full aileron reflex and full elevator compensation.
Mike
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RE: Help Needed - Flap Setup
ORIGINAL: izzy
Dan hi
the JR9303 is the picture i added ( and what i find missing in Futaba 12 FG
is there anything like this on te 12FG >???
this is what i found ,, but no mix for elevators ( i am using 2 channels for 2 ele servos)
ORIGINAL: Sparhawk
Ummmmm, I think you are in the right spot. Right above the Flap settings are your elevator settings. Set up the Down or Up value for the particular flap setting. It's right there in the pic you posted..
Similar to this on my 14 MZ.
Dan
Ummmmm, I think you are in the right spot. Right above the Flap settings are your elevator settings. Set up the Down or Up value for the particular flap setting. It's right there in the pic you posted..
Similar to this on my 14 MZ.
Dan
the JR9303 is the picture i added ( and what i find missing in Futaba 12 FG
is there anything like this on te 12FG >???
this is what i found ,, but no mix for elevators ( i am using 2 channels for 2 ele servos)
I am not fimilar with the 12FG. This screen is showing 1/3 in top right corner so there are 2 more pages to that screen. Could it be there ?
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RE: Help Needed - Flap Setup
ORIGINAL: Sparhawk
Yes Mike, that is exactly how I set up my jets as well. The air brake menu is awesome and makes setting up crow so easy too!
Dan
Yes Mike, that is exactly how I set up my jets as well. The air brake menu is awesome and makes setting up crow so easy too!
Dan
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RE: Help Needed - Flap Setup
Yes, you have eight conditions you can select, I put my rates on the condition select programme and enable flaps on the landing condition only for full crow and flaps on mid rates only for fly bys ect.
Hope that helps.
Mike
Hope that helps.
Mike
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RE: Help Needed - Flap Setup
I must be doing something wrong with my 12FG as I do mine differently!
I find it easier to see the effect of changes if I set up using mixes. On the latest plane I have elevons and flaps. I set up the 2 elevon servos each with a separate mix so the master is flap and the slave is the aileron 1 on one mix and aileron 2 on the other. I am setting them up for the first flight with elevons 20% up to full flaps down to offset pitch change. I set the flaps on a rotary knob so the movement is gradual and we can test for effect without any danger. We usually fly with flaps on a rotary knob rather than a switch, but it is a matter of preference for the pilot.
I have found that with a number of planes it is necessary to follow a standard regime so that when a different plane is flown that the controls are in a standard position. It is all too easy to select the wrong action.
The 12FG is a really great set and so far we have not had any problems in setting the controls up for many very different models. There are often more than one way of doing things, and there are areas of the programming that I have not explored yet.
John
I find it easier to see the effect of changes if I set up using mixes. On the latest plane I have elevons and flaps. I set up the 2 elevon servos each with a separate mix so the master is flap and the slave is the aileron 1 on one mix and aileron 2 on the other. I am setting them up for the first flight with elevons 20% up to full flaps down to offset pitch change. I set the flaps on a rotary knob so the movement is gradual and we can test for effect without any danger. We usually fly with flaps on a rotary knob rather than a switch, but it is a matter of preference for the pilot.
I have found that with a number of planes it is necessary to follow a standard regime so that when a different plane is flown that the controls are in a standard position. It is all too easy to select the wrong action.
The 12FG is a really great set and so far we have not had any problems in setting the controls up for many very different models. There are often more than one way of doing things, and there are areas of the programming that I have not explored yet.
John
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RE: Help Needed - Flap Setup
John
I find there are so many built in mixes on the 12FG that I hardly ever use the p mixes, but you are right on setting everything up as standard for all the airframes you have as you say it prevents trying to invent the wheel every time you set up a new one, have a play with the Airbrake function its a very powerful built in mix.
Mike
I find there are so many built in mixes on the 12FG that I hardly ever use the p mixes, but you are right on setting everything up as standard for all the airframes you have as you say it prevents trying to invent the wheel every time you set up a new one, have a play with the Airbrake function its a very powerful built in mix.
Mike