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Originally Posted by [email protected]
if a motor suggests a 70~80 amp ...
Note that motors can handle any voltage, as long as rpm, actual current and actual power don't get too high.
The winding wire insulation/lacquer/resin can handle several hundred volt.
Originally Posted by [email protected]
... can I use a 60amp?
Current drawn is proportional to pitch, voltage² Kv³ and prop-diameter⁴
All in all massively disproportional effects!
Some scary, some expensive realistic and some extremely silly examples, hopefully instructive as well.
Therefore always measure current in a new or changed power system.
A watt-meter will pay for itself, several times over, bigly.
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Another thing to take into account ...
Power system derating
It is a good practice to have some headroom built in. Motor runs cooler, slightly more efficient too, and you have some leeway should things go south a bit.
About derating motors, controllers, batteries, electronics in general:
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Power system derating
It is a good practice to have some headroom built in. Motor runs cooler, slightly more efficient too, and you have some leeway should things go south a bit.
About derating motors, controllers, batteries, electronics in general:
- Derating, starting at ... Then there is the 75% rule of thumb ...
Questions and Answers.... - Page 928 - RCG - About de-rating controllers and motors, starting at for everyone else:
Questions and Answers.... - Page 290 - RCG - Motorcurrent is proportional to voltage squared, and proportional to Kv cubed.
A 10% change in battery voltage will give a 20% change in current, a 10% change in Kv will give a 30% increase. Not quite, because battery voltage will sag more due to higher current, but you'll get the idea. - extra current with one or two cells added, simple table
A.k.a. "Why did my motor and/or controller and/or battery go up in smoke ??? ¨.
In depth discussion
www.theampeer.org/ampeer/ampnov15/ampnov15.htm#ADD
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Using a controller with a higher voltage and/or current rating is not a problem.
That only carries a mass and size 'penalty'.
A controller does not 'force feed' the motor with current.
Only pitch, voltage², Kv³ & gearing³ and prop-diameter⁴ determine actual current, as described earlier in post_#3 above.
The rules are almost the same for power drawn, voltage excepted.
Power is drawn is proportional to voltage³.
At full throttle the controller his little/no effect on current and power drawn, it just passes on what the power system demands, even if it would lead to its fiery death.
Prettig weekend Ron
That only carries a mass and size 'penalty'.
A controller does not 'force feed' the motor with current.
Only pitch, voltage², Kv³ & gearing³ and prop-diameter⁴ determine actual current, as described earlier in post_#3 above.
The rules are almost the same for power drawn, voltage excepted.
Power is drawn is proportional to voltage³.
At full throttle the controller his little/no effect on current and power drawn, it just passes on what the power system demands, even if it would lead to its fiery death.
Prettig weekend Ron
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