Saito FG-60R3
10-02-2024, 04:16 PM
#2827
I bet Mitch. Nothing like a three cylinder going by low and slow. The triples sound throatier and have such a nice lope compared to fives sevens and nines. Sound closer to my old 65 OHV Panhead lol. Hope you came through Helene ok buddy, wondering about you.....
10-03-2024, 03:20 AM
#2828
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With regard to the hurricane, we were lucky - this time. It missed us inland completely and washed the poor folks up in the Asheville area right off the map. What a disaster! Thanks for thinking of me.
10-03-2024, 02:03 PM
#2829
Phew Mitch. I was hoping you got spared, was sort of afraid to ask, saw your post and extrapolated the notion you got through ok. Happy bout that Sir. My friends people who are still around Ashville and the State are in our prayers. As is the nation. Straight up right on sound. If blindfolded, my old 450 R3 on nitro would beat all my fives and sevens for sheer sound experience. Would win out every pass lol, and especially at an idle.
10-04-2024, 01:35 AM
#2830
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Phew Mitch. I was hoping you got spared, was sort of afraid to ask, saw your post and extrapolated the notion you got through ok. Happy bout that Sir. My friends people who are still around Ashville and the State are in our prayers. As is the nation. Straight up right on sound. If blindfolded, my old 450 R3 on nitro would beat all my fives and sevens for sheer sound experience. Would win out every pass lol, and especially at an idle.
I'm just about to finish up my 3W Rare Bear with its Moki 300 radial. But more and more lately (age!) I'm liking these smaller radials/airplanes for their ease of operation/handling. I'm pretty sure a Saito R90 is in my immediate future.
10-04-2024, 11:56 AM
#2831
We must be brothers. I am in the same mode. My third school BUSA with its Moki 250-7 has been a few hours away from flying for a sadly long time. I am real happy with my smaller five cylinder OS and Saitos.
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mitchilito (10-08-2024)
Yesterday, 02:40 PM
#2832
Saito CHOKE
CHOKE question:
Gents, I am NOT a fan of the Saito CHOKE design. As you know, Saito provides a long rod with a small threaded stud on one end. The threaded stud is screwed into the throttle body directly over the Low Speed Needle.
While the choke does work well, the design isn't well thought out. When trying to unscrew the choke rod, the small stud became cross-threaded and absolutely would not budge. The rod finally broke free, LEAVING THE STUD behind such that I now have NO access to the Low Speed Needle.
My buddy wasn't quite so unlucky... his choke rod simply stripped out and he can no longer thread it into the throttle body and activate the choke, BUT at least he has access to his Low Speed needle.
Does anyone have any idea if individual carburetor parts are available? I am thinking to remedy this I will have to replace the (brass?) throttle body, or whatever it is that houses the low speed needle and choke mechanism.
All I am finding for sale at Horizon is the ENTIRE carburetor :-(
Gents, I am NOT a fan of the Saito CHOKE design. As you know, Saito provides a long rod with a small threaded stud on one end. The threaded stud is screwed into the throttle body directly over the Low Speed Needle.
While the choke does work well, the design isn't well thought out. When trying to unscrew the choke rod, the small stud became cross-threaded and absolutely would not budge. The rod finally broke free, LEAVING THE STUD behind such that I now have NO access to the Low Speed Needle.
My buddy wasn't quite so unlucky... his choke rod simply stripped out and he can no longer thread it into the throttle body and activate the choke, BUT at least he has access to his Low Speed needle.
Does anyone have any idea if individual carburetor parts are available? I am thinking to remedy this I will have to replace the (brass?) throttle body, or whatever it is that houses the low speed needle and choke mechanism.
All I am finding for sale at Horizon is the ENTIRE carburetor :-(
Today, 02:03 AM
#2833
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Richard, I have a Saito 61 boxer twin also and it has the choke you describe but honestly, I don't remember the R60 having this setup. The reason I don't know about it is that I never used a choke device on the radial - other than to reach into the fuselage and choke it by hand. I have a Hanger 9 Pitts S2 and when I install the 61 twin in it I will use the "finger" method as well. You are right - the factory method is not good.
With all that said, I will say that when I needed some obscure Saito parts the only place I eventually found them was at Morris Mini Motors. Maybe contact him and see what he has for you. . .
If all else fails, the walbro conversion may not cost anymore and frankly, it's far superior to the stock carb IMO.
With all that said, I will say that when I needed some obscure Saito parts the only place I eventually found them was at Morris Mini Motors. Maybe contact him and see what he has for you. . .
If all else fails, the walbro conversion may not cost anymore and frankly, it's far superior to the stock carb IMO.
Last edited by mitchilito; Today at 02:15 AM.
Today, 05:23 AM
#2835
Richard, I have a Saito 61 boxer twin also and it has the choke you describe but honestly, I don't remember the R60 having this setup. The reason I don't know about it is that I never used a choke device on the radial - other than to reach into the fuselage and choke it by hand. I have a Hanger 9 Pitts S2 and when I install the 61 twin in it I will use the "finger" method as well. You are right - the factory method is not good.
With all that said, I will say that when I needed some obscure Saito parts the only place I eventually found them was at Morris Mini Motors. Maybe contact him and see what he has for you. . .
If all else fails, the walbro conversion may not cost anymore and frankly, it's far superior to the stock carb IMO.
With all that said, I will say that when I needed some obscure Saito parts the only place I eventually found them was at Morris Mini Motors. Maybe contact him and see what he has for you. . .
If all else fails, the walbro conversion may not cost anymore and frankly, it's far superior to the stock carb IMO.
Yes, the FG-61 twin also has this choke design. Interestingly, the smaller FG-41 twin has no choke. None of this is much of a problem if the carb velocity stack is accessible by hand.
OR, one has a good electric starter.
I prefer to start all my engines by hand, and when safely secured, prefer the option of NOT requiring assistance to hold the plane while I hit it with a starter.
I will try Morris and have considered converting to a Walbro.
THANKS
