F86_SABRE

Hi,

I am making this Mig-15 in 1/5th scale and wish to make it as scale as much as possible.

Does anybody know what size should the rivets be like on such a plane with such a scale...for example say a 1/16" or 1.5mm pipe.

Any replies will be most appreciated.

Thanks

Regards

Reuben Saliba
Malta

wd40

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Where did you find these plans or did you make them your self.

F86_SABRE

Hi Mike,

Thanks for your mail. I did the plane myself using CAD.
I have also made ancillary items including cockpit framing, airbrakes, air intake ducting etc.
Unfortunately the size of photos I have do not permit me to put them here due to size limitation. I have triedit three times and all failed to go through.

Well....its not a very complicated plane to make but there is a fair amount of work involved. I intend to power the plane with a turbine and look forward in detailing it to the best of my abilities.

Thanks for replying.

Regards

Reuben

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Could you send me a set of these plans I would love to build one.
you can call me collect at 931-490-1978 after 7:00 tonight.

F86_SABRE

Hi Mike,

I am on the otherside of the world.

By the way, the plane is not yet done as that photo was taken this afternoon.

Regards

Reuben
Malta (europe)

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Here is another shot of the plane

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another shot...ironically my nickname is Sabre and am building a Mig-15!

Bobman

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Reuben,

Most aircraft rivet heads are roughly 2 x the diameter of the shank, e.g. a 1/8" button head rivet will have a 1/4" head. Not sure of the MIG, but most skin rivets of that era were 1/8" or 3/32". If you take those numbers & scale them down you'll probably find it pretty impractical to do "actual" sizes. Usually the dab of white glue through a syringe gives you the "looks about right" scale for button heads. Sharpened brass tubing of various sizes pressed into the paint will give you the illusion of flush rivets. Raised panel lines done with drafting tape / primer is also a nice compliment to the rivets.

Nice looking plane! Spec's on it?

Bob

F86_SABRE

Hi Bob,

Thanks for the information...from photos that I have managed to obtain most of the rivets on the plane were flash rivets except for some pieces around the plane.

When I manage to finish the plane and have sorted out the odds and end I intend to put it on the net for download. Its not my intention to make any money out of it...I just wish many more people enjoy this hobby. I am fundamentally a modeler not a businessman.

Thanks for your help once again.

I am enclosing a prototype of the airbrake system.

Regards

Reuben
malta

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....and another shot

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.......and now inlet ducting.

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.........and another

SA Jet Jock

Rueben

What size is a 1:5 Mig 15? Wing span, length. I would also be v.interested in plans so let us know when you post them on the internet.

Thanks

F86_SABRE

Hi SA

Well the Mig 15 is just a shade less than 1:5, it actually is 1:5.05 and that makes it around 80" all round, i.e. wingspan and length. To be exact wingspan is 80" and length is 79".

I plan to use a 28lb turbine in it.

I am including the first inlet ducting system from the mold, vide photos above. I had made panel lines and rivets but personally now I think it was an overkill, but anyway I had the time so I played around with it. However, I had spent a "few" evenings on my CAD trying to figure out the size of each elipse along the exit rout of the ducting. The problem was that one had to think the reverse process and that is why you dont see the splitter plate in the mold but it was there as the photos show. Subjects such as the Mig-15 always pose problems in the aspect....another subject which is just as awkward is the Mig-21 intake (Mig-17 and 19's had similar daunting work)
I have also made a mold of the cockpit and the framing you see in the photos will go on top of the canopy....again an overkill....I should have framed the canopy and extracted the canopy in one go.

I have also made the wing tanks and hope to utilise them to have supplementary fuel for taxying and on take off they would be well drained off fuel. I hope to fit in the fuel tank on the CG and conforming to the fuselage contour...but then..this is another story.

Later

Regards

Reuben
Malta

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.....more inlet ducting photos

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......this is the rear end of the inlet ducting....some more trimming of the edges is required.

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.....this is the mold for making the canopy....requires few more input before I can make the actual extraction....sorry for photo quality but I decided to snap the foto when the sun was going down and my flash wasnot working properly.

SA Jet Jock

Hi F86

You certainly have undertaken a project with a lot of work. I understand as I am presently designing a Hawker Hunter to 1:5 scale. Fuselage length is 2.8m and w/span 2m. A beast that I plan powering with a 12.5kg turbine or maybe a 16kg when they are readily available.

Would still be interested in the plans at a later stage as I have a passion for the "classic" jet fighters - Sabres, Mig15, Hunter, Venom, Vampire, etc.

Keep us posted as your project progesses.

Rgds

F86_SABRE

Thanks SA,

Now the Hunter is one nice plane indeed. I have been after a good set of drawings of the plane for some time. I managed to get the drawings but the fuselage crossections were very limited.
I managed to get hold of the WARPAINT book and they had a number of drawings but again crossections were limited.

Anyway, hope we will see some photos of that plane.

Regards

Reuben

SA Jet Jock

As soon as I have completed the drawings and started construction I will post something.

Luckily, we have seven or eight full size Hunters in a flying museum locally and I was able to get good cross section drawings. My plan is to 3D render the drawings and have a local CNC place mill out a plug for me from polyurethane foam. Using that as the basis for the fuselage will save some time.

However, progress is slow at the moment and so anticipate this time next year I should have soemthing to show for the hard work.

Rgds

F86_SABRE

Hi SA,

That is a very accurate and an easier way of getting a mold done. Unfortunately, I am not aware that there exist something like that on the island so for me I have to go the traditional way.

The Hunter IS nice. Should make an interesting subject.

Regards

Reuben