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Old 10-17-2004, 12:48 PM
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Default HANGAR 9 33% EDGE 540

Has anyone got one these yet? What do you think of it? What engine are you using? Servos? I HAD the 33% Extra 330S and really loved it until a couple of 5945's decided to lock up on my elevator.
How would the edge be with a ZDZ80 single for power?

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I have one with a bme 110, way too much power to the point of being hard to manage it. a zdz 80 would be perfect. Mine with the 110 is 21lbs 10oz. Its a very good 3d plane, but havent done much imac with it. I am using 5945s on everything except a single 8611 in the tail for the rudder.
Old 10-17-2004, 04:40 PM
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Default RE: HANGAR 9 33% EDGE 540

I am anxiously awaiting mine. I'll be running a ZDZ-80 on a Bisson Pitts with all 8611's and Fromeco Li-Ions. I built my own hardware kit for it. Should be a wicked light flyer. I wish I could give you a report. Hopefully sometime soon.
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Default RE: HANGAR 9 33% EDGE 540

Do you have some pictures
thanks
Old 10-17-2004, 07:30 PM
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Default RE: HANGAR 9 33% EDGE 540

You are flying a 22lb plane with a BME 110?
So do you ever go above 1/4 throttle?
That combination would be wicked!
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I have one with a bme 110, way too much power to the point of being hard to manage it. a zdz 80 would be perfect. Mine with the 110 is 21lbs 10oz. Its a very good 3d plane, but havent done much imac with it. I am using 5945s on everything except a single 8611 in the tail for the rudder.
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Default RE: HANGAR 9 33% EDGE 540

Yes I fly it above 1/4 throttle, wide open, and man it rips a 28x10 menz like nothing else.
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Yes I fly it above 1/4 throttle, wide open, and man it rips a 28x10 menz like nothing else.



Why do you sell it????

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Default RE: HANGAR 9 33% EDGE 540

Winter is coming and wanting something more suited for the bme 110. Would like an extreme flight yak but not going to wait forever. Maybe an aerotech 35% yak for the 110.
Old 10-18-2004, 05:19 AM
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I have a Edge ready for first flight. I've got a ZDZ80 with pitts muffler. I'm running JR2721's on elevator and ailerons and a JR8611
on rudder. Kit went togather good, wings and tail tubes slid in and lined up. Cowl is predrilled, needed a liittle sanding. One pain was
motor box is predrilled for GT80. You have a spacer for other engines, but it is not long enough to get engine out to cowl. You will have to make your own spacers. The red on the cowl doesn't match the ultracote very well. Not a big deal. Mine is around 23 lbs. Over all it is a good kit, every thing fit well, I did some reinforcing in the landing gear area. I felt that if you make a bad landing it could break at the mounting area. Hanger 9 makes a nice 1/3 scale hardware kit, that has everything you need, as well as metal JR servo arms. Waiting for weather to warm up a little to give it a test flight.

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Old 10-18-2004, 09:49 AM
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Default RE: HANGAR 9 33% EDGE 540

Where did you folks balance the Edge?

If you do the math, the 6" to 6.75" (per the manual) comes out at 34.2% to 38.5% of the MAC.(17.5")

Mine, with a G-62 and forward mounted rudder servo, balances at the 6" point.

Weight is 22.5 pounds dry.
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Default RE: HANGAR 9 33% EDGE 540

Mine is around 6.5", seems perfect for 3d here, roll inverted and just a very minor amount of down required, hardly noticable.
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Default RE: HANGAR 9 33% EDGE 540

I am doing one for a customer -using a DA100- should be nice- I always figured 20 lbs with a 100 would be about right.
I am simply spoiled on power to weight with current and recent stuff- all at, or over 2-1 static thrust to weight.
Those darned elecrics are to blame!
I took my son out today (he once flew EXPERT PATTERN class) and let him try these new high power 3D things
Surprise surprise.
This stuff is addictive.
Old 10-19-2004, 08:44 AM
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Default RE: HANGAR 9 33% EDGE 540

I just set mine up with zdz 80 on bisson pitts. I haven't had a chance to fly it yet. I put everything up front and it ended up nose heavy , even with a single rudder servo in the tail. So, I've had to move the batteries back well behind the wing tube.

The plane is 3lbs lighter than my H9 Sukhoi! Weighs in at 22lbs 9oz


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Default RE: HANGAR 9 33% EDGE 540

For 3D on the 80/w/Bisson - you may want to clip the muffler tips a bit -to full pipe diameter.
Also clip a 26x10 MenzS to about 24" and thin ends and exactly balance the prop.
This makes for a very stiff prop which can stand to rev without flexing.
Don't be afraid to let the engine run up a bit - 7000 won't hurt a thing
You should really like the setup.
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Default RE: HANGAR 9 33% EDGE 540

dick,
I am looking at ZDZ 80 single with a JMB cansiter. What is the edge like for mounting a canister below it? I have seen your extra modifications for a canister, can the same be done with the edge?
Thanks
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PS I just lost my H9 33% extra to two locked up Hitec Digital 5945's on my elevators.
Old 10-21-2004, 10:57 AM
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Default RE: HANGAR 9 33% EDGE 540

Thanks for the pics of the engine install. Are those 2 1/4" stand-offs?

Dick,

This is my first ZDZ motor. The directions say not to run full power for a while. It is acceptable to do this for tuning?

Also, the directions say to start at 1.5 turns on both needles. My needles came set at less than 1 turn (Walbro Carb). As far as I can tell (looking at the plug, etc) the motor has never been run. In fact, the hall-effect sensor holder was floating loose on the screws. I suppose I should back the needles out and start fresh, eh?

Where do you have your timing set at? I read somewhere (can't find it now) that it is best when the piston is .2mm before TDC you should spark. The directions say another thing (spark at TDC) and the ZDZ website says yet another thing (27 degrees BTDC). When I pulled out the dial indicator and set the timing for .2mm Before TDC, it wound up being something more than the quick start 6mm recommendation (more like 7 mm). What do you use?

Also... for all... the ZDZ website says they've changed their recommended oil mixture. They now recommend 30:1 for break in and 40:1 for general running. My directions (new engine) still state 40:1 and 50:1 respectively.

Thanks for your help,
Jason
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Default RE: HANGAR 9 33% EDGE 540

I have never seen a new ZDZwithout the recommended ignition setting folder - but anyway - crank the sensor full clockwise (viewed from front) minus a tiny bit is fine.
oil - start with Mobil 1 MX2T and stay there -at 32 -1 - that's my setup and the engines all look like new inside and run HARD
DO NOT put on big props
use a 25/26x10 whatever -
the can setup on the EDGE will go over the gear so a box is needed and use the 70x300 can -really short header
you have to do some work - I have one here I am settingup with a DA100 -so I looked it over .
The engine will break in better allowed to run easily -and 6500 will not hurt it on occasional run ups but do NOT just let the thing run wide open on the ground for long periods - this is no good for any engine - temp is the key and if you set the needles (that's why they are there ) correctly the engine will sound a bit rich in level flight (hard to hear -so train your ear)and sound best on uplines .
I run mine over 7000 all loosened up - no problems
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Default RE: HANGAR 9 33% EDGE 540

We are in the process of reviewing this plane. We used a DA 100 for power. Going to try and test fly it in the next 2 weeks weather pending. If all goes as planned we'll get the video, photos done and complete the review asap. I'm going to have 3 pilots fly this plane including myself so you can get 3 perspectives on the flight characteristics and a variety of flying styles in the videos.
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Default RE: HANGAR 9 33% EDGE 540

You may see a first hands on review of the edge on my website.

http://www.wspromotion.com/serge-rc.html

That's an awesome arf.

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Old 10-21-2004, 01:43 PM
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ORIGINAL: serge1

You may see a first hands on review of the edge on my website.

http://www.wspromotion.com/serge-rc.html

That's an awesome arf.

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wow! a lot of use of "flawless" and "perfect". Geez, if we said that everyone would say we were a biased magazine and exaggerating. If you don't mind I'm going to put in some of your quotes with ours in the review to exemplify the areas that are in fact truly well done. Sometimes people think the stuff we receive for the RCU mag is "hand picked" and that simply is not the case. Hard to convince some skeptics though that we truly tell it like it is. With good planes hitting the market like this it can be hard to find faults.
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Default RE: HANGAR 9 33% EDGE 540

Absolutely no problem Mark. Do it. That edge is close to perfection and I always try to back up my words with pics. This is my second H9 product. The first one was a P 51 in wich I had mixed feeling about it. But you always get what you pay for. That's it!

MCconneville did his homework on that one for sure.

Fly safe
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You may see a first hands on review of the edge on my website.

http://www.wspromotion.com/serge-rc.html

That's an awesome arf.

Serge
wow! a lot of use of "flawless" and "perfect". Geez, if we said that everyone would say we were a biased magazine and exaggerating. If you don't mind I'm going to put in some of your quotes with ours in the review to exemplify the areas that are in fact truly well done. Sometimes people think the stuff we receive for the RCU mag is "hand picked" and that simply is not the case. Hard to convince some skeptics though that we truly tell it like it is. With good planes hitting the market like this it can be hard to find faults.
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Default RE: HANGAR 9 33% EDGE 540

Nice Avatar I don't think I could get my wife to do that. But then again, I'll never know if I don't ask

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