rsking45

I am looking into buying one and dont know which one would be the best one for me.I have about 6 months of trying to fly the cpp and an getting tryed of it.I will only be hovering at this time,Which I am having a hard time with the cpp, no 3d or anything.Heliproz seam to have good deals but are they really?I dont know much about the electronic parts.
Whats your choice?

Synister

If you dont already have a sim, I would suggest getting one before you upgrade to a more expensive, complex, and high-performance helicopter. I too have the CP Pro and just upgraded to the Trex 450SA combo. Its a much more capable helicopter than the blade by a long shot but is also not very forgiving to those who cant control it. Get a sim, get better on the blade, and get an SA combo, the XL combos are a bit outdated and you will spend more upgrading them that what it costs for a newer version.

Crabstick

Yep, get a sim first, although there is no subsitute for real flying..

heres my thoughts for a beginner ..

Get a XL - ie non ccpm - they are older, thus cheaper, and they handle a beating.. i would upgrade to copter X or something metal tailcase and metal rotor head parts.. the plastic frame can take a beating, and when you crash you wont blow servos to bits - CCPM is really good and precise, but transfers all of the load from a crash straight onto the servos - not through the linkages line on a XL - the alloy tailbooms are really good and you can straighten them if just bent a little..

the metal rotor head and tailcase are worth their weight in gold...

Also Id go with plastic landing gear as it has a lot of give, when my trex fell out of the sky the other day after trying a loop without idle up the landing gear broke on one side, but saved me from a lot more damage, plastic frame is still sweet and I have had a fair few crashes when I was getting to grips with my trex

Georges Payne

I have a BCPP that I bought in February, and I recently bought a T-Rex 450SA. The T-Rex is a more stable platform, but it is also a bigger, more powerful machine that is more intimidating to a newbie like me. It is not that much easier to fly, just that it flies better. It's like buying an inexpensive bicycle at Walmart and a very expensive one like a deVinci. The deVinci rides a lot better, but you still got to learn to ride on two wheels.

In the situation you describe, I say buy a sim too. I have Real Flight G3.5 and I wouldn't have succeeded as fast without it.

Regards
Georges

rsking45

I did forget to mention that I do have the g3.5 sim and can fly well on that,no 3d or anything but I can fly tail in or nose in.

cflight

Your going to love upgrading to a 450 from "twitchy".
http://www.cnchelicopter.com/servlet...m-frame/Detail
http://www.ehirobo.com/shop/index.ph...a510db99cc4286
http://www.heliwarehouse.com/ Pheonix 450SE
http://www.bananahobby.com/1239.html GL450SE
Run HiTek HS65MGs to avoid worrying about servo gears.
The Align 35X ESC has a 6V BEC that will support 2A.
The Futaba GY410 gyro holds excellent and has a limit pot for servo travel, as well as supports 6V.
Coupled with a good digital servo like the 9650, DS3400G or HDS577 is optimal.
The Spektrum DX7 is a great radio and affordable 2.4 technology, coupled with a AR6100 is perfect for a 450.
To keep costs down you may want to consider the microlite package,
http://grandrc.com/inc/sdetail/79044 be aware that 3 digital servos on cyclic are going to tax an internal BEC and probly require an external BEC to avoid overheating the ESC.
Grandrc is probably your best bet as their electronics are priced right.