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Old 01-16-2008, 07:53 PM
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All the labcoats and fancy equipment in the World is not worth Alot of Money when I can buy some ready made C.F. for less than a buck a shaft and a few minutes later, have it in the gear and in the bird, and be instantly superior to the factory steel one.

I don't give a Rat's Butt if it is a degree or two inferior to something else.

5 to 8mm longer on a C.F. is MORE than enough to not have blade clack; especially with our modified flybars. (oops, I hope there are no spies out there).

I've had mine for going on two months now, have crashed bad several times with No ill affect except a shattered canopy,and proves to Me it is far superior (and lighter) than the stock and is something ANYONE can do.

I guess We should utilize the Free Market that is E-BAY and sell the instructions for just enough money to cover the sellers fees.

We are Here to share information, knowledge, etc. and the purpose is not to gain financially as there is another forum for that for qualifying members.

We have had members in the past ask about certain E-BAYERS products, etc. and We tell them OUR OPINION, so that goes back to

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Old 01-16-2008, 08:02 PM
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We are about to send one to KR Hobbies, wether Merlin decides to send one to anyone else has not been discussed. It wasn't my idea to start giving out the first production out to everyone free of charge, I personally put time and money into the venture. I feel if someone really wants to have one they will contact him and ask for one personally. Like I said, I have done my part for the hobby. I have my craft, I also have my career. This was an altruistic venture on my part to help the hobby, and myself along the way. I believe the craft had promise, but was made inferior due to the materials and the lack of engineering. If you think that the drive is not worth your time, that is not my problem. Everyone has what they want their craft to do. Mine does stuff I never expected it to do, and it is on the website. I paid dearly for my craft, so don't expect me to plead your case to my pal. If you truely wish to explore what this craft can do, you will talk to him in email or on the so called telephone he set up. That is my personal feelings in the matter.
Old 01-16-2008, 08:25 PM
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I'll volunteer to test it!

As a new pilot I feel I would be ideal for this testing. Strength is very important to me. Crashing is a large part of my flying time. I also am dealing with blade clack as I tend to mash the sticks to try to keep me out of trouble.
Old 01-16-2008, 08:33 PM
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We have all been there pal, may i suggest the stock swivle setup, it might help you with the crashes for now. I put that on my nephew's helicopter but I am waiting for him to conquer the flight simulator first. I flew my nephew's helicopter setup like this and it is still a very cool setup for flying.
Old 01-16-2008, 08:35 PM
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I have Aluminum grips on it now ( the plastic died the first night..lol ) Working my way threw a TBE right now ( thinking its a bent shaft ) so when the parts arrive, I'll have that wrapped up.
Old 01-16-2008, 08:55 PM
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I feel for ya, I personally have been through all of this. Cheap chineeze parts just dont hold up to the crashes we give them. As you get better you will fly higher and the crashes will be even more devistating. You find youself doing more repair time than flying time. This got really old to me really quick. I am hoping the site wakes up the rc industry to quit selling us stuff that wears out and gets a replacement fee quick. Just look at the hobby stores, they sell flybars that I am afraid to put in my pocket, let along crash with. I know what a damn near perfect driveline sounds like, I havent crashed my heli since the last rebuild, I have been very careful with my airsliders... lol. It will handle a crash but, lets face it, the first time its rebuilt is the best.
Old 01-16-2008, 09:33 PM
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http://www.nwcryo.com/pricelist_master.html
8 bucks a pound.
Now its a DIY.
Maybe RCUniverse could start selling Cryo CF Tubes.
Or we all could just Cryo our whole heli.[:-]
Old 01-16-2008, 09:56 PM
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I wouldnt cryo any parts till I understood what the effects would be. Some take well to the process, some actually go through a crystalization that is detrimental to the part. I realize you and other people are having fun with this... so am I. All kidding aside, this is how we make our feelings felt, we want better than what is out there. Adding a neon colored tail or blade lights wont make the thiing fly better. But there are some real things that can be done with the parts we have. A constructive open minded look at the realities we face. We created a new material, I love it!
Old 01-16-2008, 10:13 PM
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The whole heli part was a joke incase you did not understand/catch it. I really hope no one would do that.
Old 01-16-2008, 10:38 PM
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You want to know what I loved most about this forum besides the wealth of free knowledge shared here is. .......................The fact that the kind of B.S. that has been going on in this thread NEVER went on here like it does in so many other places. Everyone was respectfull to each other or said nothing at all.
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Old 01-17-2008, 04:16 AM
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I am shaking my head in disbelief reading this thread. FXR, I suggest you read the forum rules and pay attention to the vendor status. if I may quote:
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That being clarified lets move on to the subject at hand. I personally agree with goldslinger in this matter. This is a forum intended as a help and learning center as well as a information hub. The less expensive side of the hobby is what most will gravitate towards, not the unfounded and unnecessarily expensive designs. Sure there will be a market for such "bling items" but only after a tried and tested period by actual customers, not retailers or resellers trying to sling a unproven upgrade to unsuspecting n00bs.


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Old 01-17-2008, 12:53 PM
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[:@] he got me with having two accounts under his name.
Thanks for pointing that out arrow.
Old 01-17-2008, 02:56 PM
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BIG TIME no-no! [:@]
Old 01-17-2008, 04:09 PM
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Wow, It sounds like someone is insinuating that I misrepresented myself. I admitted from the getgo that there is a new site, I own the blue helicopter, and that we gave everyone another alternative to chineeze pot metal products. That was all I wanted, and I got more than what I expected. I also put in more money than I expected. But this was to help a friend with his vision of a craft that had not even been in existence. There are more ideas that we are bouncing around, but till I get the funds back I put into the materials, I think I will simply enjoy the craft I have at present. As far as sharing information, that is what I have been wanting our site to do. It just went up, there is much more work to do, I simply would like one place to put the information up rather than have to put it on every damn blog in the world. I think the stock swivle should be there, if there is a brushless conversion, that should be there, any other upgrade that anyone can do themselves should be there. How many of you knew you could chuck your tail and really fly?
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I have read the following rules and again after you posted them. I have gone through life with a spiritual relationship with my maker, I personally think religion sucks, and have held positions in my career that demanded for the safety of the public, that I be an honest man. I honestly believe that the craft with the new parts is far superior, much more enjoyable because I do crash the damn thing trying to do air sliders and the sort. I won't get rich off of helping someone with their craft, but I will do what I feel is a good thing. From the getgo some people did some very illegal things, that is why my buddy went off on one of them. I just had to laugh. I always expect the worst out of humanity, they don't want to help each other, they just want to profit or laugh at someone to make themselves feel better. I find that laughing at myself allows me to laugh with others. The good I do down here I will take to the otherside with me when I go. As I said, if the parts were there, I would have bought them, they were not. I now tell you that there is an alternative that I now enjoy. I am a supporter of Cryohobby.com
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This is the breakdown that you’re not seeing

1. You’re believed to be taking Ideas from this forum and are trying to market it.
2. You claim to be all American and insult others country’s, yet your own product have parts and materials made from China.
3. You have misled and still continue to mislead people.
4. You have claimed to have created a whole new material, yet without changing any molecular structuring through cryno your “carbon fiber†and “spring steel†is still carbon fiber and aluminum.
5. You’re going around in the forums posting your advertisement.
6. You insult people and call them names. Then you go head and insult religion.

I’m just going to leave it at that. I’m not going to deal or bother with you anymore, talk all you like, but it’s not me who’s going to be making judgment. I don’t even want to hear any of your responses. Like I’ve said before you do whatever you want to and I’ll stay out of your way.

…..I believe that America’s greatest power was its wealth of knowledge but is now so corrupted by greed and deceit.
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This is the breakdown that you’re not seeing

1. You’re believed to be taking Ideas from this forum and are trying to market it
. ( Believed to be.... that is an assumption on your part!

2. You claim to be all American and insult others country’s, yet your own product have parts and materials made from China.

( I have insulted no one.... please if I have show me where! The parts are made in America. They are fused and added to the best Chineeze gears we could find.

3. You have misled and still continue to mislead people.

(Actually it is YOU that mislead people and that actually can be proved at a later time.

4. You have claimed to have created a whole new material, yet without changing any molecular structuring through cryno your “carbon fiber†and “spring steel†is still carbon fiber and aluminum.

(Again another bloviation that is incorrect and substantiates my answer to the previous.

5. You’re going around in the forums posting your advertisement.

( I will admitt, my pal did let everyone know about the site, and I did let everyone know who I was also, I own one of the helicopters in the videos.

6. You insult people and call them names. Then you go head and insult religion.

( I said I am a spritual man, I think religion sucks, it tells everyone what to think, I am a free thinker and I don't believe that there is a single religion that is perfect, they are all created by man. I have tried to be a gentleman replying to your claims.

I’m just going to leave it at that.(I seriously doubt that but we shall see) I’m not going to deal or bother with you anymore,(I do believe you made this promise already and are breaking it with this here that I am replying to) talk all you like, but it’s not me who’s going to be making judgment. I don’t even want to hear any of your responses. Like I’ve said before you do whatever you want to and I’ll stay out of your way.

…..I believe that America’s greatest power was its wealth of knowledge but is now so corrupted by greed and deceit.

(knoledge is not actually free, I pay large sums of money for my books, classes, and it takes much of my time. Much like we are told this land is free, try to tell that to the IRS, the men fighting overseas, and the vets of this land, and the people who own the realestate! America's greatest and most precious asset, kindness twards the people who it fights and wins. And I do believe we have lost our way, but we can get it back if we all pull together. This latest war has given us a real big black eye.

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Why do you continue to PM me. I don't care what you say and whatever you do want to tell me you should tell the whole forum.

From FXR.
I realize you had your bubble broken finding out you don't know everything. When you believe you know it all, you quit learning. If you would settle down and listen a little you just might learn something. I am trying to get my friend to give up the information on the site for the 3 cell conversion. But with your **** he won't let me do this. He is the one that did the research and I have to comply to his decisions. This is out of respect to my friend, and I will not do anything to breach our friendship. So if you would quit acting like a child perhaps we all could be flying what I am flying. Your so called help on some of the blogs is way behind the times. I am watching what we went through already. I hope I answered all your questions.
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Real good entertainment. Keep it up!
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Georges,
If a man is standing in the middle of the forest speaking and there is no woman around to hear him, is he still wrong?
Yes, Even though there is no woman around every thought from a man is still going to be wrong to them. I still constantly get hit by my wife even when I didn't say anything at all.

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