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Old 07-08-2003, 11:07 PM
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Default Pitts vs Ultimate ??

I am trying to decide which bi-plane to get. Any one have info on weather to get a GP 1/3 scale Pitts ARF or a Dave Patrick 1.20 size Ultimate. I'm looking for real facts, not just opinions. Thanks!
Old 07-09-2003, 02:10 AM
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Default Pitts vs Ultimate ??

Well, what kind of plane/performance/type of flying are you looking for? If looking to get something with low wing loading that will do the patterns and some 3D, get the DP and stuff a YS140L or DZ in it. The GP 1/3 Pitts is really a completely different plane. This plane, IMHO, should be flow with a gas engine. The Pitts has more cross controlls and is harder to fly precise. It is a more impressive airplane in the air though, I am thinking of getting one myself and stuffing my ZDZ60RV in it Wooooo Hoooooo.
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Default Pitts vs Ultimate ??

my eyes r glued to the b godfrey 30% ultimate... 70 ws 77.75 length.

we have a pitts at our field on a zdz 60 22 x 10 3w prop.

i have the dp ultimate on a os-160

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Old 07-09-2003, 05:03 PM
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Default Pitts vs Ultimate ??

I've got both kits on hand. Going to put a Taurus 52 on the Pitts and will try one of my MVVS 1.60 gassers on the Ultimate.
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Going to put a Taurus 52 on the Pitts
You will have the perfect combomy friend. Trust me on this one. After many different tries, I found a PK Plus 22/8 prop to be the best.
Old 07-09-2003, 07:45 PM
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Default Pitts vs Ultimate ??

Your prop recommendation has been noted and filed for Future Reference

I was going to use a ZDZ-40, but heard it was not the best match for this airframe.
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Default Pitts vs Ultimate ??

I have the DP Ultimate with a Saito 180...and a guy at our club has the GP Pitts with a OS BGX. I can rightfully say both planes are winners!!!

My Ultimate is a used plane (I'm the 3rd owner), and it's a little heavier now because gravity stinks! It makes me look good...I mean it makes me look like a better pilot than I really am. It snaps well, does BEAUTIFUL flat spins, doesn't hover really great because of increased weight. It is by far my favorite plane right now. I have yet to move the CG back and get really crazy with it.

The Pitts is still being sorted out...but can tell you it looks GREAT in the air. It doesn't snap as well as the Ultimate, but then again it's still running a forward CG as well. It rolls great, and will hover. Seems like it needs a little more speed on landing than the Ultimate. Keep in mind the Pitts was never really designed as a 3D plane.

I guess what I'm trying to say both planes are great flying machines. If you want to go gas, then the Pitts is the way to go, since it's bigger and built more for gas. I really think it comes down to which one looks the best to you...then build it and fly it.

Simple, huh!!!!!

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Default Re: Pitts vs Ultimate ??

Originally posted by Jerry Ream
I am trying to decide which bi-plane to get. Any one have info on weather to get a GP 1/3 scale Pitts ARF or a Dave Patrick 1.20 size Ultimate. I'm looking for real facts, not just opinions. Thanks!
I own a Bob Godfrey's Ultimate and a GP Pitts.
Both are wonderful planes.

But if I need to decide bitween GP Pitts and Dave Patrick's Ultimate, I will go for the Pitts. I have flown both and the Pitts is much better.

Mine is powered with a Zenoah G-45 and is the perfect match, as far as balance is concerned.
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Default Pitts vs Ultimate ??

Where can I get information on the Godfrey Ultimate. I appreciate the help.
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Default Pitts vs Ultimate ??

It depends on what do you want:

The pitts is a very good plane but requires more coupling than the ultimate and is not as precise as the Ultimate.


The GP Pitts is a very good kit to go gas ( My former had a zdz 60 ).

The D.P Ultimate screams with a ys 140 on 30% heli fuel and is more 3d.

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Default Pitts vs Ultimate ??

hoss i am building the godfrey ultimate right now

http://members.cox.net/krayzc/30%25_ultmate.htm

77 .75 length 70.5 ws foam wings and a build up fuse
rec 3w 75-100 cc engine
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Default Re: Re: Pitts vs Ultimate ??

Originally posted by euqor
Mine is powered with a Zenoah G-45 and is the perfect match, as far as balance is concerned.
Euqor, what kinda thrust to weight do you have using the G-45? I plan on sticking a MVVS 35cc gasser into my pitts. People claim they make as much power as the G-45. I don't think it'll have unlimited vertical for 3D, but it may just hover...
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Default Pitts vs Ultimate ??

Krayzc

I like what I see on your web page. I need a home for my 3W 75. I was looking at the CA 31% but I just like the looks of the ultimate.
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Default Great Panes Pitts ARF

Hi Guys

Any of you guys that own the GP Pitts had any problems with plane. Interested in getting one but I keep reading about problems with he top wing.

Please could you share your experiences?

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