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Old 01-14-2010, 01:55 AM
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Default P120SE VS P120SX

Hi guys,
I use in my SM Hawk the good and smooth P120SE and i'm thinking to put the P120 SX. Do you believe that it's worth to do that or I have nothing to get more with the SX?
Thanks in advance for any replies....
Old 01-14-2010, 02:29 AM
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Jetlang

There is a noticable increase in performance between the SE and SX. Plus if you are running kero start the SX seems to start even easier than the std motor with external screw in Kero.

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I don't notice that much difference in performance between the P120SE and P120SX

I have both, both great engines. If you indeed use kero-start, you could argue the internal kerostart is abit faster/more reliable.
But only for that I would not exchange the engines.

The P120SE spools up almost as fast as the 120SX (do'nt notice it in flight). The SX is a bit quieter, spools up a little smoother.

But overall, I would not exchange it if it is running/flying fine. If you need more performance, get the 160SX

Otherwise, get the 120SX and a new airframe to put it into - there's no such thing as enough jets

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I agree with NightSwan, only worth upgrading if you get a 160SX or need a new 120.
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There is a difference! Depends what airframe you have it in to notice the difference.

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my p160sx is quiter than my p120se[:'(]

i dont pay for performance i pay for sound

..i like to get in my hands the guy who told them we like turbines quieter[sm=punching.gif]

i got a hawk with a p120sx too and some times i dont hear the engine at all[:'(]
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If you don't pay for performance and you're paying for sound why don't you take a voice recorder go to national airport and record all the jets during the take off!
It's much much cheaper...
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Hi Night,
someone told me that the SX needs a batteryat least double in capacity than using with SE.
And thats for the kerostart system.
For the SE i use 2cell Lipo 3300Mah.So i'll need for the SX a 5000Mah battery?
Is that true?
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I use a three cell A123/2300Mah on my SX without any problems, I don't know how many starts it will do in total before it needs re-charging as I top up the battery on the field after three starts and flights.

Mike

EDIT: Also look here: http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_9414541/tm.htm
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ORIGINAL: jetlang

Hi Night,
someone told me that the SX needs a battery at least double in capacity than using with SE.
And thats for the kerostart system.
For the SE i use 2cell Lipo 3300Mah.So i'll need for the SX a 5000Mah battery?
Is that true?
Absolutely not true!
I use 2S/2500 mA/H LiPo (the one that Jetcat includes with the turbines) for all my engines (P60SE and 4 x P160SX), except my P200SX!
I charge after 3 flights, doesn't matter if it's a P60Se or P160SX, it's just a routine I have, 3 flights, then charge. I usualy stuff around 1000..1200 mA/H back in the batteries
My P200SX I use a 5500mA/H battery, mainly because of the weight I needed in the nose of the plane (Skymaster Viperjet), but also because the starter motor of the P200SX has a higher demand.
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ORIGINAL: jetlang

Hi Night,
someone told me that the SX needs a battery at least double in capacity than using with SE.
And thats for the kerostart system.
For the SE i use 2cell Lipo 3300Mah.So i'll need for the SX a 5000Mah battery?
Is that true?
The 3300 is more than adequate for the 120SX. I use approx. 375 mah per flight.
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welcome to rcu Jelang! when i sed some times i meant the idle moments during fite.you know what i mean if you own an se and an sx. Hawk is a great model my friend!enjoy!
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ORIGINAL: jetlang

Hi Night,
someone told me that the SX needs a battery at least double in capacity than using with SE.
And thats for the kerostart system.
For the SE i use 2cell Lipo 3300Mah.So i'll need for the SX a 5000Mah battery?
Is that true?
Absolutely not true!
I use 2S/2500 mA/H LiPo (the one that Jetcat includes with the turbines) for all my engines (P60SE and 4 x P160SX), except my P200SX!
I charge after 3 flights, doesn't matter if it's a P60Se or P160SX, it's just a routine I have, 3 flights, then charge. I usualy stuff around 1000..1200 mA/H back in the batteries
My P200SX I use a 5500mA/H battery, mainly because of the weight I needed in the nose of the plane (Skymaster Viperjet), but also because the starter motor of the P200SX has a higher demand.
My friend said to me that i will we need a larger capacity battery because at the time that gives power to kerostart to light up on that time only ,needs a lot of Mah!
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ORIGINAL: jetlang

Hi Night,
someone told me that the SX needs a battery at least double in capacity than using with SE.
And thats for the kerostart system.
For the SE i use 2cell Lipo 3300Mah.So i'll need for the SX a 5000Mah battery?
Is that true?
A 3300MAh battery is more than enough to safely complete 6 flights with the P120.

Tassos
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Actually depends on ambient temp...ie if it's hot it has more cool down spools. In cold England I have a 3400 2s Li-Po in my CARF Hawk and I have had 9 flights, all in one day
Tassos, you have too much heat!

Dave
Old 01-14-2010, 03:27 PM
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both internal and external kerostarters use the SAME ceramic burner.
there is no difference between the se or sx when it comes to performance , i flew all of them and to be honnest your better of with a derated 160SX wich spools about 35% faster then the SE or SX.
and when you shop around you will find shops that actualy sell the p-160sx for the price of a P-120SX sold elsewhere [:-]
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Old 01-15-2010, 01:55 AM
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I think a P160 SX is overpower for the little Hawk!
Don't you think?
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I'm looking for a 120SE- cant afford the SX [] Pm me if you have one for sale

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