JM-PORTUGAL

Dear friends.

Flyeagle is now working in new A-10 prodution.

Soon i will see it

João Matos

joaomatosjets.blogspot.com

LGM Graphix

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They sure do make pretty airplanes, I'll give them that.....

JM-PORTUGAL

They are increasing them quality.

New jets comes with a lot of carbon reenforcements.

Hope see soon the new A7 (160-200).

Thanks

João Matos

NickC5FE

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Nice jet but man those wheels are tiny!! Look forward to seeing some pictures when you get it

olnico

Yes, just like they did with the 1/6th scale F-18F...

Increasing quality and carbon reinforcements mean nothing if there is no engineering behind.

jeanfi

Well said OLI !!!

Jean Fi

JM-PORTUGAL

New F16, New F18, New A10, New F86, New A7.... and more ... and more

More engineering....

Hope you understand me! You have to try!

Thanks

João Matos

joaomatosjets.blogspot.com

olnico

Sorry JM, but I've lost enough money with these guys.
The resell value of a FEJ kit is just too low.

Hope that you understand me...

JM-PORTUGAL

Ok.
You have problems with F16, right?

I understnad your frustration...

Mine add some upgrades! More carbon fiber reinforments.

I will talk with James and Johnny. We want happy costumers

Sorry for your lost my friend.

João

GSR

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Wheels too small and nacelles are way too big. Scotty

NickC5FE

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Just noticed the nacelles Scotty-WOW those are big!![:'(]

JM-PORTUGAL

When i recieve i will put photos and you will see it

João

P.S. i am working hard in my F16...

Eagle Driver

the carbon means nothing, at first they have to learn how to use it and
in which places it makes sense to use it ..... otherwise its only black fibre

JM-PORTUGAL

Eagle Drive.


About carbon fiber reinforcements.... wich plane are you talking about.... show me photos of what you think is wrong! If we agree we will change it!


Thanks
João Matos

olnico

Joao,

You're saying "we". Are you FEJ ? Do you speak Chinese ?

Adding carbon fiber strips here and there is only just cosmetic as Eagle Drive said. A proper aero design is much more than this.
I have sent pages of technical feedback to these guys about the previous planes I tested for them. With no success. They do not listen. I have spent a considerable amount of my precious time in pure vain ( apart from making the two planes I have airworthy ). I am pretty sure that Eagle Driver is not willing to waste his time with these guys again.

It is OK for them to send some small inexpensive parts, but not to change a design properly.

On top of that, when I see all these planes announced on their web site, it makes me think about a Ponzi scheme.

What is the point to release new planes if the current ones are not finalized ( apart from getting fresh cash in emergency )?

How many people are gonna send money to these guys and see the kit coming 6 to 9 months later in a prototype stage that only a few guys in the world can sort out ?
Do you have any idea how many unbuilt or partly built FEJ kits are changing owners on the market ?

How long is this story going to last before the whole thing bursts out either because a customer crashes a plane in the crowd or because the company eventually runs out of cash ?

I am extremely concerned about this situation right now.

Just my 2c...

keen611016

Oli: the new models are announced for future models developing. no sale this time yet.

Keen</p>

JM-PORTUGAL

Oli. When i sad we... i am talking about aeromodelling comunity... who have Flyeagle jets and want to be better!

Put your pages of technical feedback here!

I would like to see and talk about that!

Thanks

João Matos

olnico

This has been long done already here:

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_92...tm.htm#9242583

Here ( about 20 pages of feedback on the F-18F ):
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_77..._1/key_/tm.htm

Here ( about 10 pages of feedback on the F-16 ):
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_86..._1/key_/tm.htm
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_95...tm.htm#9607280

And in my RCJI tests and feedback.

The technical reports I have made to FEJ is mostly of a confidential nature. Ask for a copy to them. If they believe that you could read them, they'll certainly send copies to you.

Eagle Driver

João,

i wish you luck for the future ....

as Oli said i`m not willing to waste my time with these guys again.

Did you ever see the original Drawings of the Liberty, what a fantastic jet.
We designed it and send the finished CAD Drawings to china. Put over
800 hours in this project. So the stupid german can`t be right and they changed
everything into their own crapy design. What they come out with was the biggest
bunch of sh.t i`ve ever seen. [:@] One step forward, five steps backward [:'(]

Spend enough time and money into that company .... NOW ITS YOUR TURN .... best luck


BTW: OLI how`s the ME262 going ???

olnico

Steven, it's been on hold for the last 3 weeks. I have been very busy working on the B777 instructor upgrade recently and I guess that I have another few weeks to go.
After that I will resume the work on the 262. It is fairly advanced and I should be able to maiden it in August...

jetnuno

Hi Joao

As you know I have own 2 FEJ kits in the past (a 1/8 F16 and a F18F large) and built a couple of F15s and Rafales. Both Steven and Oli also had the Big F18 as I did. They have gone thru several troubles, mainly with the gear, but also with pipes, frame, etc. Their hard experience as lead me to sell my kit...unbuilt. If you look closely I was one of the first to buy this kit and started the building F18F thread

If you read the suggested threads carefully you will be aware of the issues that this plane and others had.

they sure have good kits mainly in the small range like the small F16, etc. Excelent value for the money, at least a couple of years ago. Some issues to deal but nothing special. In my humble opinion, what I think it is wrong with this company strategy is making extremely complex BIG airplanes without proper engineering and proper materials. You just can't make a big F18F gear train to withstand a plane weight of 30Kg, with the same soft aluminium of a 1/8 gear train (10Kg). It is not enough to make some carbon stripes in a BIG plane if the layer and resins are not up to the task. 30Kg planes need another aproach to engineering and manufacturing and most of all, need several test flights and corrective measures.

Nevertheless, I take my hat to their proactivity and courage to make what no other manufacturer as done before, but I leave this question; why haven't they (other manufacturers) done it? and in many cases still don't?

Still, when I look at their web and see more than 40 jet kits (some are marketed and some planned to be marketed) in a company with 3 years, it just seems that ambition is trapped by inexperience.

What I really wish is that they learn from customers feedback. It will be the only win-win situation.

If you want give me a call and we can have a chat about it...

Best regards

Nuno

u2fast

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oli, my friend. dont bang your head to much. there is always a new guy to pick up the fej ball and run further with it. even when the first team has left the stadium for good, never to come back. your bud, barry

olnico

You're 100% right Barry.
When I see the difference between working with FEJ and with Grumania or Thomas Knoll, it is quite stunning.

BTW the big F-84F is on the way...

Take care ( and hope to see you soon ).

Oli.