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Old 04-21-2004, 04:57 PM
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Default Sukhoi 120 from Bisson - anybody have one?

Saw this one on the Bisson website. It appears to be a Blackhorse/Phoenix models kit. $170 for a 120 size plane is great, unless it's junk. So, does anybody have one and what do you think of it?
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Default RE: Sukhoi 120 from Bisson - anybody have one?

Got mine the other day first impression Looks Good. Add shipping and customs.
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Default RE: Sukhoi 120 from Bisson - anybody have one?

I got mine yesterday! Excellent looking plane. the covering is tight, all control surfaces are hinged and pinned, painted fiberglass cowl with the cooling fins molded in. They even gave me two horizontal stabalizers. One of the best ARF's I have seen. For $170.00 you can't go wrong.
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Default RE: Sukhoi 120 from Bisson - anybody have one?

Finishing mine up now. You will need to be an experienced builder, there are a lot of things that were not well thought out. (No way to mount the cowl, no support for the tank, etc.)

Also be warned, it weighs 12 pounds and is very tailheavy with a 1.20. Do not put the servos in the rear if you are using a 1.20 engine.

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Oh yeah, the CG is wrong too. Should be 5".
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Default RE: Sukhoi 120 from Bisson - anybody have one?

anyone got pics?
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Default RE: Sukhoi 120 from Bisson - anybody have one?

I just started putting mine together.. Very nice plane for 195 bucks shipped to my front door. So far a couple of the aileron hinges were not flush with the trailing edge of the wing... pushed in too far on one end causing some binding... not a big deal... pulled them out... straightened them and glue em back in...lets just hope my thin CA trick holds well enough with the pins... might want to glue all of the pins in on all of the control surfaces...the pins will vibrate out... I have the FUNSTAR 40 it's pins started vibrating out...pushed them back in..quick CA fix and they are staying just fine... I just got the Sukhoi 120 out of the box tonight... slapped the wings together and it looks pretty good on the bench... I'll try to get some pics along the way...

Have a good one...
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Default RE: Sukhoi 120 from Bisson - anybody have one?

JUST FINISHING MY 120 SUKHOI FROM PHOENIX WHAT ARE ALL YOU GUYS PUTTING IN FOR A ENGINE? I HAVE A O.S. 160 ANY THOUGHTS? OR SHOULD I STICK TO A 120? THANKS TIM
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Default RE: Sukhoi 120 from Bisson - anybody have one?

My GMS 1.20 has NEARLY unlimited vertical. A 1.20 four-stroke would be adaquate for non-3D aerobatics, but the 1.60 would be better for 3D.

WARNING: If you use the CG and control travels given, you will crash on the first flight. Set the CG at 5 to 5 1/4, the ailerons at 75% of the given rate and the elevators at 50%. Any more elevator than that will stall the airplane, even with the 5" CG.

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Default RE: Sukhoi 120 from Bisson - anybody have one?

Thanks Jim for the info. Tim
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Default RE: Sukhoi 120 from Bisson - anybody have one?

OK I NEED HELP ON MY SUKHOI 120 (PHOENIX) WHAT IS THE ULTIMATE ENGINE FOR THIS PLANE WITH SERVOS IN THE TAIL. A LOT OF CONTRAVERSIE WITH WEIGHT FACTOR. I NEED SIZE AND BRANDS WITH PITTS STYLE MUFFLER SET UP. ALSO THROUGHS ON AL, RUD, AND ELV. ALONG WITH (C/G). THANKS TIM
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Default RE: Sukhoi 120 from Bisson - anybody have one?

With the servos in the tail, mine needed 8 ounces of noseweight in addition to the 26.5 oz engine and 5 oz pitts muffler. In other words, you can use an engine/muffler combination that weighs about 40 ounces. And that is with the battery right behind the firewall.

That would put you in the ST 3000/Moki 1.80 range.

I've already given you my travels and CG.

Jim

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